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I still don’t know what to expect price-wise for the satellite connectivity, hopefully apple will provide this information soon. It would be great if it could be bundled with Apple One, but I doubt it will be the case
It’s not an apple service. I am curious if Apple will negotiate with providers or makes the users subscribe directly with providers.
 
I’d rather not pay AAA just so I don’t have to pay out of pocket once a decade or less.
Man, my daughter in law uses my son's AAA sub account for car lockout so often we had to figure out the max number of times she could and when the period reset. I've never met a person in my life that is locked out of her car as often as her. She's got a master's degree, she's brilliant, but dude - she loves slamming that door with the keys in the cup holder like it's in her job description.
 
Wonder if this will make its way to other providers. I have roadside assistance through USAA and would appreciate being able to go through them instead of AAA.
I love it when they push these US features (where you don't have mobile coverage) to the rest of the world (where you basically have 100% mobile coverage) and they think it's cool.

If my car breaks down, I just use my phone to call roadside assistance. That's it, I don't need any special satellite coverage.
Good for you for being one person who drives only in populated areas.
 
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The only time I didn't have cellular connection in the past 10 years happened in the US. Sorry, it just doesn't happen in Europe, at least not on roads. Here in Switzerland where I live, not even on mountain peaks.
From Europe here. You have named one country. And I can say personally it has happened to me quite a few times in more than on European country. Apple didn’t make it available in Switzerland anyway so what is your issue?
 
Most Older models don’t have satellite functionality

Photonic Engine - only available on iPhone 14, even though iPhone 13 has A15.

HDR5 - only iPhone 15 has HDR5, even though iPhone 14 Pro has A16.

Features that cost money, like Roadside Assistance will be backported for sure.
 
The only time I didn't have cellular connection in the past 10 years happened in the US. Sorry, it just doesn't happen in Europe, at least not on roads. Here in Switzerland where I live, not even on mountain peaks.
Well considering that the US is 27,723% larger than Switzerland that really isn't surprising that you don't understand how much area we have to cover.
 
I love it when they push these US features (where you don't have mobile coverage) to the rest of the world (where you basically have 100% mobile coverage) and they think it's cool.

If my car breaks down, I just use my phone to call roadside assistance. That's it, I don't need any special satellite coverage.
You really think the entire world other than the USA has basically 100% mobile coverage?!?

I could see complaining about adding a feature if you were somehow forced to use it, but a number of people have been complaining on these forums that the satellite coverage wasn’t available in their area, so there appears to be a demand. This would be like me complaining that Apple wasted time adding different languages to their iPhone that I don’t need. US, Europe, or wherever, thinking that your area is “the world” is thinking rather small.
 
Photonic Engine - only available on iPhone 14, even though iPhone 13 has A15.

HDR5 - only iPhone 15 has HDR5, even though iPhone 14 Pro has A16.

Features that cost money, like Roadside Assistance will be backported for sure.
The satellite functionality is enabled by a Qualcomm X65 modem or later which was only added to iPhones last year. It’s not a software feature like those you have listed.
 
The satellite functionality is enabled by a Qualcomm X65 modem or later which was only added to iPhones last year. It’s not a software feature like those you have listed.

I'm saying Apple could have easily made the feature limited to iPhone 15, had it not been a fee for service feature. We've seen countless examples of that.
 
The only time I didn't have cellular connection in the past 10 years happened in the US. Sorry, it just doesn't happen in Europe, at least not on roads. Here in Switzerland where I live, not even on mountain peaks.

Yeah, because most of our states are bigger than Switzerland... No wonder.
 
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I love it when they push these US features (where you don't have mobile coverage) to the rest of the world (where you basically have 100% mobile coverage) and they think it's cool.

If my car breaks down, I just use my phone to call roadside assistance. That's it, I don't need any special satellite coverage.

Switzerland is 238 times smaller than the USA. We have areas of our country with zero population that are the size of your country. It doesn’t make one better than the other — just different. To compare the two is absurd.
 
The Death Valley Germans could have used this.
Heh. That's pretty obscure my friend.

Unfortunately, AAA wouldn't tow them since they went offroad. But the SOS would have saved them even if not the minivan.

But yeah, this is a great feature for vast stretches of empty land in the western US. Or for those of us in town who have ATT :)

I have never understood why emergency roadside service providers don't let us text them. Better in spotty cell areas.

And I hope this will spur Garmin and the other competitors to offer roadside, and maybe even offroad-side dispatch as well. To prevent the next Death Valley Germans episode.
 
Friendly reminder that older iPhones can be made to work with Globalstar but Apple refuses to do it.
I followed the link, then searched there for the earlier article, and got this:

In technical terms it is my understanding that the Globalstar constellation has long had an extra 10 megabits-per-second of Block 53 bandwidth that has gone generally unused but available to a specific Qualcomm chipset. This strongly implies that such satellite capability wouldn’t be limited to the iPhone 14 but has probably been there all along for any phones using that chipset.

I might argue that any iPhone could be satellite-upgraded with only a firmware change, which of course is totally under Apple’s control.

There are so many qualifications in that (qual-comm, heh) that I can't take it seriously. So maybe Apple "refuses" to do it since it can't be done. Or isn't economically feasible. Or isn't FCC approved. Etc. It would be nice, but no dice.
 
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I love it when they push these US features (where you don't have mobile coverage) to the rest of the world (where you basically have 100% mobile coverage) and they think it's cool.

If my car breaks down, I just use my phone to call roadside assistance. That's it, I don't need any special satellite coverage.
Gee, it’s almost like Apple is a US BASED company or something 🙃. Don’t like it, buy a phone made by a company in your country… Oh wait…
 
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Do they have a button for "Help, I'm stuck in the mud at Burning Man"? I wonder if AAA would have shown up. :p

Also, what happens after the 2 years of service that they mentioned?
 
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I love it when they push these US features (where you don't have mobile coverage) to the rest of the world (where you basically have 100% mobile coverage) and they think it's cool.

If my car breaks down, I just use my phone to call roadside assistance. That's it, I don't need any special satellite coverage.
Apparently solq is is having technical difficulties with his connection to MacRmors 😂
 
The only time I didn't have cellular connection in the past 10 years happened in the US. Sorry, it just doesn't happen in Europe, at least not on roads. Here in Switzerland where I live, not even on mountain peaks.
Comparing a country's cell coverage that's just over twice the size of the four largest local counties in the US and 0.42% the land mass compared to US, is silly on its face. That's Charlie Sheen level winning.
 
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