Apple is pretty bad in this regard. It would help immensely if the iMac could be used in targeted display mode again.
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Apple Announces New Space Gray Mac mini With 4-Core or 6-Core Intel Processor and Up to 64GB RAM, Starting at $799
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Yes, I have. I have one serving a few apps right next to me. Its slow as hell. But its also a computer from 2014. Decent M2 256GB SSDs are like $70 now. We don't need to compare to HDDs in any way what so ever.
For an $800 computer its not acceptable to have to connect a cheap POS drive just to maintain basic function of the computer, no. $800 is a pretty decent budget for a small, headless computer. Furthermore, Apple, in a raw spec comparison, is typically not that far off of standard PC prices. The main gripes have often been that there aren't adequate lower end entry points to things like a Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, or even iMacs. The Mac Mini was a solution to that. But now, they have taken their low end computer and jacked the price up such that its not price competitive with other computers in its class.
so an i7 mini with 8gb 512gb SSD is 1500$
and an AMD ryzen 2700x, 32gb ram, 500gb ssd, gtx 1060 +other parts : 1250$
Can you see the light?
As with any computer, I can absolutely build my own cheeper and deal with any headaches that come from that.
I plan to do just that for a dedicated iRacing rig as soon as I can justify spending the money on a new iRacing rig. (Plan to use known Hackintosh-able parts so I can play around with Hackintoshing it) I have a plan, a parts list, and even a G5 case to put it all in. Being able to justify the build and the money to put into it? Maybe next year?
Right now getting a new Mac mini for the office and replacing the existing mini in the entertainment center (because reasons) are ahead of iRacing on the priority list. And for those uses, a machine with warranty support that won't stop working after an update is still preferable.
As with all things YKINMKBYKIOK
An SSD is much smaller and has no moving parts. It shouldn’t cost a ton more than traditional HDD. Solid state/flash storage has been around for many years now.
Bleh on the graphics and chipset. I think what Apple should have done is something similar to the Intel Hades Canyon NUC. It combines on-board integrated graphics from AMD and an 8th gen Intel Processor. Graphics benchmark somewhere between a GTX-1050 and 1060 which is unbelievable for an integrated solution. It blows everything out of the water in that form factor.
Sooo... you wanted a new case?
The internals are completely different, its not a "spec upgrade", so I'm guessing you are upset that they didn't make it a pyramid or something.
Well, they can probably make three Macbook Air chassis out of the aluminum alone, so maybe $35? ;-)
Disappointed overall. I was hoping if it got a new premium price it would have integrated AMD Vega graphics. That i3 part is kinda bargain basement. The 128GB base SSD is insulting. You have to spend close to $1,500 for a reasonable config. I'll put my money into a better iPad Pro and keep my 2012 for another year or 2. Apple wins with me whatever they do.
Very disappointed too. Expected i9-9900 CPU's and 4 ddr slots and bigger case with silent fan and nvme ports. Just a touch of professional computing... The new mini is not more than a small update of the old one, nothing new.
Because SSD is much smaller and use less materials to produce. I don’t care how fast it is. It’s still a rip off. Apple charges $1,000 for a 1TB upgrade even though a 1TB 2.5” SSD can be had for under $500-600. Yes the latter won’t fit in any Mac but the principle is the same.
Please give it a proper thought before answering. They TOOK 4 years and during that time mac mini received no updates whatsoever. Now, after 4 years we get this.
That was my point. They could have kept updating the mini gradually and arrive to this point as well. The 4 year gap was unwarranted and served no purpose rather than just pure lack of interest from Apple.
These are completely different technologies. The prices are not comparable. The production processes are different. In the computer world smaller and faster cost more. SSD is both smaller and faster. Yes, Apple does charge a premium for their upgrades. They aren't going back to spinning drives any sooner than they will add a DVD drive or serial port.
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It would have been sweet had it grown a bit more, added a PCI-E slot or two and still offered a 2.5" disk option.
I'm gonna hold off and wait and see if we can upgrade the SSD. I'll wait till Black Friday to order, who knows they might go on sale if Hell gets cold enough.
I'd like to be able to add my own SSD or M.2 drive.. but 256 GB is more than enough for my OS, Apps and music. All of my other stuff is stored on a USB3 drive, no problems there. It's mostly going to be for video editing... would it speed up render times if I got an external GPU? Don't need one for gaming, but I have a Nvidia 1070 in my old PC, if that would help at all...?
I'd like to be able to add my own SSD or M.2 drive.. but 256 GB is more than enough for my OS, Apps and music. All of my other stuff is stored on a USB3 drive, no problems there. It's mostly going to be for video editing... would it speed up render times if I got an external GPU? Don't need one for gaming, but I have a Nvidia 1070 in my old PC, if that would help at all...?
Jeez, people are reading too much into the RAM upgrade. Apple suggests a technician do it since they have no way of judging your abilities. You could imagine some neophyte nimrod with huge pliers going after it if Apple said "yeah sure, you can do it!".
Apple also never said it would void a warranty. Parts have to be removed and I'd imagine the system board slid out the rear a little to access the RAM pinchers on the one side of the sockets.
Where they did mention voiding the warranty is if you DAMAGED something during install. This holds true for any manufacturer.
Apple also never said it would void a warranty. Parts have to be removed and I'd imagine the system board slid out the rear a little to access the RAM pinchers on the one side of the sockets.
Where they did mention voiding the warranty is if you DAMAGED something during install. This holds true for any manufacturer.
Of course they could have. It's not like they have worked day and night for 4 years for this. Of course not. It's more likely that they did nothing, and then nothing and then nothing and then finally they decided to dust it off and upgrade it. It's not like it's the first time that have happened to Mac mini… (at least it was a nice upgrade this time except for the higher base price, the last one was such a disappointment).
You're welcome! Mobile is not that bad, actually.
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Secure Boot FAQ, bookmark it for posterity - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208330
Everyone is complaining about the price of the new one. By far the biggest rip-off is that Apple is still asking $849 for a refurbished 2014 with an i5 (only dual core), 8GB RAM and a 1TB fusion drive.
I was hoping those would be cheaper since it would still be a decent upgrade from my 2011 and it's fully upgradable, but oh well.
Probably going to go with a moderately spec'd new one with an external Samsung T5. Now I'm just trying to decide whether the i7 is worth the upgrade over the i5 and whether 256 SSD is enough internal storage...
I was hoping those would be cheaper since it would still be a decent upgrade from my 2011 and it's fully upgradable, but oh well.
Probably going to go with a moderately spec'd new one with an external Samsung T5. Now I'm just trying to decide whether the i7 is worth the upgrade over the i5 and whether 256 SSD is enough internal storage...
Is it 2 or 4 RAM slots?
To me this looks like a great update...apart from for those that still wanted a low cost entry machine.
To me this looks like a great update...apart from for those that still wanted a low cost entry machine.
How does the Command-R work for the desktop Macs? I have never had one just MacBooks.
Wondering if I should go with a Mini. Need advice
I have a growing photo and video collection - 20,000 pics (mainly family stuff) but have backup on iCloud. I don’t run a lot of applications but maybe will add games as the kids get older.
Wondering what storage size I could go with... obviously I’d put most of the photos on an external drive too for quick access.
Suggestions for a good priced monitor?
I have a growing photo and video collection - 20,000 pics (mainly family stuff) but have backup on iCloud. I don’t run a lot of applications but maybe will add games as the kids get older.
Wondering what storage size I could go with... obviously I’d put most of the photos on an external drive too for quick access.
Suggestions for a good priced monitor?