Apple Announces Next Step Towards Achieving 2030 Environmental Goal

[Scottsoapbox]

I'll probably regret engaging in this conversation, but I don't see why Apple making efforts to be more environmentally friendly is apparently so outrageous to some people, even if some aspects are perhaps superficial. Like even if you don't really care about future generations having an inhabitable Earth, how is Apple putting in some effort harming your life in any way? Okay, fine, no leather iPhone cases… boo hoo.

People are tired of the companies being praised for the farce of superficial symbolic actions in response to a fake crisis.

Most "green" solutions are only beneficial in a narrow view that ignores their downsides. E.g., Windmill power ignoring killing birds and the carbon creating and installing the windmill. Or EVs using possibly "green" energy ignoring the environmental destruction of lithium mines and disposal of batteries after the fact. Not to mention the carbon created in the global supply chain for EV parts.

When one decides one thing is the only thing that matters (carbon=evil) it becomes easy to cheer on bad sophomoric ideas (usually while feeling superior to those rolling their eyes at the farce).

 

[paradox00]

Nobody cares about this. We just care about good products.

I care about it. Honestly they should be doing more (as should everyone else). The greatest benefactors of capitalism and global trade should be doing the most to address the negative impacts that have arisen from it.

Climate denialism doesn’t make climate change a non-existential threat.

This is not a critique of you, as I don’t know or really care about your politics, but even xenophobes who only care about blocking immigration should care about climate change because it’s quickly becoming one of the biggest factors behind human migration. If they don’t want people coming to their country, don’t make the asylum seeker’s country unlivable. Just common sense that isn’t exercised often enough when destabilizing regimes or making the equator too hot to live/turning areas barren. Climate change impacts us all regardless of values or political beliefs.

 

[phrehdd]

I am not really happy with this company's idea of "green" when they strive to make their own products non-upgradeable. One has to dump an entire system to get a newer or better internal part of the device. Game over.

 

[jonblatho]

… reports said [Cook] described Chinese artificial intelligence platform DeepSeek as "excellent" while there.

Has he tried asking it about Tiananmen Square?

 

[sw1tcher]

Apple today announced it has committed up to 720 million yuan (nearly $100 million) towards accelerating the development of clean energy sources in China, as part of the company's goal of transitioning its supply chain to 100% renewable energy by 2030.

Nobody cares about this. We just care about good products.

Apple will save the world lol no being honest it’s just to please a certain crowd. It will not change anything about the world. I don’t believe in the net zero agenda.

Are you saying Apple's clean and renewable energy goal is sinister and complete lunacy?

 

[code-m]

Unfortunately, that type of thinking is what got us into the mess that we are in now.

Earth is our home. We should have as much pride taking care of it as we do with our personal homes and businesses.

Unfortunately it’s a cash grab. CO2 is not the issue if you feel it is then plant more trees. Plastics and microplastic is the bigger concern. The Climate is always changing, the universe is changing and we have had negligent impact on it or any other planet. Climate Change is a distraction to forego your personal freedoms to a select few who care only for their own self-interests.

 

[Godspeed8230]

How about making products actually repairable, eg AirPods.

 

[code-m]

People are tired of the companies being praised for the farce of superficial symbolic actions in response to a fake crisis.

Most "green" solutions are only beneficial in a narrow view that ignores their downsides. E.g., Windmill power ignoring killing birds and the carbon creating and installing the windmill. Or EVs using possibly "green" energy ignoring the environmental destruction of lithium mines and disposal of batteries after the fact. Not to mention the carbon created in the global supply chain for EV parts.

When one decides one thing is the only thing that matters (carbon=evil) it becomes easy to cheer on bad sophomoric ideas (usually while feeling superior to those rolling their eyes at the farce).

These myopic statements by Government and Scientists are baffling the worst is the super wealthy class that fund personal agenda “science”. Ok CO2 is bad for human and animal life, plants require CO2 just as humans and animals require O2, solution plant more trees and other foliage. But that’s not profitable since these three groups of people are making the solution unrealistic and attainable for profit and remove the average people’s freedoms and rights.

 

[code-m]

How about making products actually repairable, eg AirPods.

I would also add that having more products with magnets is bad; why? Magnets require rare earth materials that need to be mined which require heavy earth moving equipment shocker it’s not green.

 

[thefrost]

And does the average customer care? I don't think so.

 

[code-m]

So Apple and people don’t feel plants are the solution to the perceived CO2 issue but don’t mind producing more consumer electronics that produces more CO2 and other detrimental environmental and human effects. Got it we live in some upside down world logic, what’s next on Onion News?

 

[sw1tcher]

So Apple and people don’t feel plants are the solution to the perceived CO2 issue...

Where are you getting that idea from?

Apple and partners launch first-ever $200 million Restore Fund

Apple today announced the Restore Fund, an initiative that will make direct investments in forestry projects to remove carbon from the atmosphere.

www.apple.com

Apple’s Restore Fund cultivates new roots in the Atlantic Forest

Apple’s Restore Fund projects in South America are reforesting the land, one seedling at a time.

www.apple.com

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Nobody cares about this. We just care about good products.

Actually some of us do care about this. We encourage Apple's Clean Energy Fund, which aims to add approximately 550,000 megawatt-hours of wind and solar capacity to China's grid each year. Ideally Apple will also find other nations to add approximately 550,000 megawatt-hours of wind and solar capacity to their grids each year. Unfortunately another huge energy user, the USA, is now moving away from clean energy production under its current administration.

 

[wonderings]

I'll probably regret engaging in this conversation, but I don't see why Apple making efforts to be more environmentally friendly is apparently so outrageous to some people, even if some aspects are perhaps superficial. Like even if you don't really care about future generations having an inhabitable Earth, how is Apple putting in some effort harming your life in any way? Okay, fine, no leather iPhone cases… boo hoo.

It is definitely a good thing if we can use more renewable resources and be green. What I hate about this is it is all marketing BS that fits the current political climate. If Apple really cared about being eco friendly they would be making devices that have a much longer lifespan. Instead we have devices that have zero upgradeability which kills their life span by a fair bit. There is no excuse except that it makes Apple more money doing it this way. They create the hardware so they can make a way for at least user upgradable hard drives and RAM.

It is also just super cringe when you watch how they pat themselves on the back all the time. Just do it for the sake of doing it, we don't need it part of a marketing campaign.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

People are tired of the companies being praised for the farce of superficial symbolic actions in response to a fake crisis.

Most "green" solutions are only beneficial in a narrow view that ignores their downsides. E.g., Windmill power ignoring killing birds and the carbon creating and installing the windmill. Or EVs using possibly "green" energy ignoring the environmental destruction of lithium mines and disposal of batteries after the fact. Not to mention the carbon created in the global supply chain for EV parts.

When one decides one thing is the only thing that matters (carbon=evil) it becomes easy to cheer on bad sophomoric ideas (usually while feeling superior to those rolling their eyes at the farce).

Your post is defined by the words "response to a fake crisis." Folks who think that our climate issues are "a fake crisis" are starting the entire thought process based on totally wrong assumptions. Calling sincere, helpful attempts to move in a better direction "bad sophomoric ideas" is simply an attempt to validate the fatally flawed original "fake crisis" preconception.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

2030 is too late, according to AOC the world will end in 2030. 🤭

I do believe that you misquote the intent of the pols original comment.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

Good on Apple for doing something, anything, to curb their impact. Every effort matters.

Meanwhile, I can't believe that climate change is somehow a political thing. I'm not the only person that can tell you that every year on this planet has been warmer than the last. You don't need to be a climate scientist, a historian or a politician to notice. Go outside and feel it.

 

[JohnRckr]

Damn that’s crazy.
Howbow you fix bugs in iOS by 2030

 

[AppleFeller]

I just want longer battery life in my next products. 🤷‍♂️

16e “am I joke to you”

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Unfortunately it’s a cash grab. CO2 is not the issue if you feel it is then plant more trees. Plastics and microplastic is the bigger concern. The Climate is always changing, the universe is changing and we have had negligent impact on it or any other planet. Climate Change is a distraction to forego your personal freedoms to a select few who care only for their own self-interests.

Yes most of the world is a cash grab, which is why we are on track to rapidly destruct human habitability. Sorry but even though they are concerns, plastics and microplastic are not the bigger concern. Climate change is not "a distraction to forego your personal freedoms to a select few," it will be life changing in catastrophic ways. Sure the corrupt greedy Trump types care only for their own self-interests, but their corruption does not change the real science of climate change.

All those here with academic competence should study up on the science of what is happening to our planet's climate. The data is incontrovertible. Note that climate scientists tend to be very conservative in their reporting. So the reality is that we are probably worse off than the conservative reporting implies. E.g. scientists discuss potential "tipping points" but (conservatively) do not say when tipping points will be reached or predict the consequences of multiple tipping points being reached with cascading effect.

 

[hagar]

Unfortunately it’s a cash grab. CO2 is not the issue if you feel it is then plant more trees. Plastics and microplastic is the bigger concern. The Climate is always changing, the universe is changing and we have had negligent impact on it or any other planet. Climate Change is a distraction to forego your personal freedoms to a select few who care only for their own self-interests.

The brain gymnastics some people do in order to align what their favourite president says with observable reality is mind blowing.

Climate science is based on 150 year old well understood physics principles. There’s nothing mysterious or uncertain about it. Current levels of CO2 are the highest in 2 million year and that’s a huge issue.

Not because CO2 is toxic but because it traps heat from the sun. So whatever you think, year after year it will be getting hotter and hotter. With no upper limit in sight. Making it more dangerous than micro plastics. By a long shot.

Apple being mindful about fossil fuels and climate change is a necessity. Can they do better? Yes. But they also live in the capitalist reality and free market. Small steps are better than no steps.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Even more, even if posters here think that's nothing wrong with climate, what's the issue with using solar and wind power?
Oil has been around for nearly 200 years. More than enough time to make money buying and selling oil stocks (if the hate against sun and wind are financially motivated)

"The issue with using solar and wind power" is that the fossil fuel industry in the USA has for decades received $Billions is subsidies from the US government. That industry wants to protect itself, so it lobbies very hard against alternative energy sourcing. And it manages to convince some folks that they are good and green energy is bad. Go figure.

 

[StuBeck]

2030 is too late, according to AOC the world will end in 2030. 🤭

This is factually incorrect.

 

[LV426]

How about making products actually repairable, eg AirPods.

There are more important considerations in the world than the repairability of AirPods, which are so simple that they rarely go wrong anyway.

It's good that Apple is pushing for clean energy in manufacturing in China. As it happens, China is installing more renewable energy sources than the rest of the world combined, now up to 1,400GW capacity, which is about one third of China's entire electricity supply.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

These myopic statements by Government and Scientists are baffling the worst is the super wealthy class that fund personal agenda “science”. Ok CO2 is bad for human and animal life, plants require CO2 just as humans and animals require O2, solution plant more trees and other foliage. But that’s not profitable since these three groups of people are making the solution unrealistic and attainable for profit and remove the average people’s freedoms and rights.

I have trouble understanding your commentary, but facts are:

• Atmospheric CO2 consequent to using fossil fuels causes the greenhouse effect, trapping excessive amounts of heat in the atmosphere and leading to global warming. Simple science to understand.

• The planet is warming at a faster rate now than it ever has before in at least a million years.

• Your suggested "solution plant more trees and other foliage" is one appropriate action, but very challenging to achieve at the same time we overpopulated the planet from 2B to more than 8B in one single human lifetime. Plus greenery alone is not enough; reduction of fossil fuels must occur.