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Apple Announces Penryn Mac Pros and Xserve

swap the ATI card for NVidia and add 3 - 5 weeks

Grr...

Shipping time 1-2 days. If you swap the crappy ATI with the NVidia shipping changes to 3-5 weeks. *shrugs* Guess that wait time means I don't have to buy it today as that will eventually change.

BTW, developer pricing for the stock MP is $2239.00

upgrade to 4GB Ram and NVidia 8800 and it is $2799.00

Not bad.. to bad they didn't keep the prices consistent with the older Mac Pro's though. *shrugs*
 
G4DP said:
320GB HD, they must be laughing at us. This should have been 500GB min.

Apart from that the update is very good news.
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Agreed. I mean, a 500 GB 16 MB cache drive should be standard on a Pro level machine like this. The 320 GB, like the 250 GB before is only an 8 MB cache drive.

Also....Apple still WAY OVERCHARGES for RAM. All Mac Pros should have 4 GB RAM standard.....plain and simple. There is no reason they need to charge as much as they do.

-Kevin
 
jeznav said:
The previous MP baseline in Canada costs $2799 CAD. The new MP baseline costs $2799 US. Will Apple have all their products price matched by now?
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I just checked the Apple store and its $100 dollars more! $2899 CAD:(
 
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Rychiar said:
uh but what i wanted in a new mac pro is a NEW mac pro...as in not a speed bump but a complete redesign:mad:
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While these updates are nice and very welcome (and looong overdue), I was also hoping Apple would go with a redesign of the MacPro casing, etc. Not that the design is bad, but it hails from the G5 days, and it would be nice to see them refresh the look to reflect the fact that these are not your father's Mac towers.

Oh well, maybe next time.

Still, an 8-core system is drool-worthy.
 
Yoursh said:
Don't think anyone has pointed it out but at the bottom of the Mac Pro design page it plugs the cinema displays. It makes it sound like there is a price drop. Maybe new models.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html
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I wouldn't get too excited.

The displays shown are clearly the same ones but slightly cheaper. Apple has done this twice on these things already and it did not signal that new models were coming out.

Also, Apple usually discontinues old products when the new ones came out. There is no way that they would still be selling the old cinema displays (even at lower prices), at the same time as they were selling new models.

They could, I guess, announce that the old displays are discontinued at MacWorld and bring out new ones then, but given that they are encouraging people to buy MacPros ahead of the event here, that would be a bit of a dastardly trick IMO.
 
XT is more powerful than the Pro

The PRO in your iMac, while a perfectly capable card, especially when shader based software becomes more common place, is not as powerful as the XT, sorry to disappoint you.

The 2600XT is more than powerful enough for most users and will turn in relatively decent game performance, but with 8 cores, it will certainly be the bottleneck should someone choose to play games on one of these beasts
 
Marx55 said:
FANTASTIC! Enybody knows if these machines are quiet? Are they liquid-cooled? Thanks.
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No they are not liquid-cooled like the old G5s. However, the processors are more efficient and theoretically produce less heat than the processors in the Mac Pro 1.0s, which were pretty darn quiet.

But when I get mine, I'll tell you. :)
 
deathshrub said:
Macs != gaming machines.

If anybody is buying a mac to game professionally they are making a huge mistake. The BTO cards for the Mac Pro are more than adequate enough.
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Are you trying to tell me what I can and can't do with my own machine? When I'm not working, I'm pretty sure I'm free to game if I want.
 
BenRoethig said:
It's a very good price for a single quad core CPU workstation. I just wish they'd offer a single 5410 (2.33ghz) or 5420 (2.5ghz) as an entry level machine for former Power Mac users. A $2300 price tag drives away users and they're making an awfully big bet they'll choose to either pay the much higher price tag or buy a machine as feature poor as the iMac over jumping ship.
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I don't see an iMac being "feature poor", since it also has Wireless N, Bluetooth, the ATI 2600, SuperDrive, etc. That should certainly keep Power Mac users quite happy and I expect the iMacs performance is as good as or better then many of those older Power Macs.

Folks moving to the Mac Pro either need expandability or they can make use of the superior memory and network bandwidth of the Mac Pro's chipset and systemboard architecture.
 
The Canadian pricing isn't that bad... only $100 difference. Hopefully they'll price the same for the incoming MBP ( and any other hardware for that matter).
 
jhenzie said:
The PRO in your iMac, while a perfectly capable card, especially when shader based software becomes more common place, is not as powerful as the XT, sorry to disappoint you.

The 2600XT is more than powerful enough for most users and will turn in relatively decent game performance, but with 8 cores, it will certainly be the bottleneck should someone choose to play games on one of these beasts
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Isn't the Pro in the iMac simply a 2600 Mobility XT that has been underclocked? It is not the Desktop 2600 Pro.
 
nihilisticmonk said:
I see. So we can rip the rom from that card and stick it on a pc card!
If that happens, I'll be such a happy bunny! :)
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bubez said:
I'd also like to get only the 8800gt for my "old" mac pro.
Hw if they wouldn't offer it as a diy part, and the efi/bios chip is of the same size of the pc version, just get a pc 8800 gt, flash it and enjoy, like I did with the x1900xt.
Like someone posted before, PCIe 2.0 is backward compatible with 1.0 and so this card can run on the existing mpros. (in the pc world I think as today only the intel x38 chipset has one slot 2.0)

I have to say that the new Pro is a big monster, the only thing I miss is a new line of Cinema Displays, but there is still the MacWorld next week to announce them, right?
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Reflashing shouldn't be needed. GPU's have been EFI compatible for a long time now. All that is required is for OS X to recognize the GPU. That is what 10.5.2 is supposed to bring.
 
dave-tx said:
Anyone know for sure whether or not the single-CPU option will use the same motherboard as the dual-CPU machines? In other words, will there be an empty socket for future upgrades?
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The systemboards are the same. So you will have two CPU slots, with the empty one covered in a plastic plate. You remove that plate when installing the second CPU.
 
bluefido said:
Am I getting you angry? Ha...hilarious. I state my opinion on PC gaming, and you find offense. You are probably the "griefer."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Love,_Not_Warcraft
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What exactly am I angry about? You can't understand how anyone could spend that money on a gaming machine. I can't understand how anyone could spend money on [insert crap here]. Get it? It's all subjective.
 
overcast said:
Are you trying to tell me what I can and can't do with my own machine? When I'm not working, I'm pretty sure I'm free to game if I want.
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Let me repeat myself.

Macs != Gaming machines.

I'm pretty sure the evidence supports my viewpoint. Macs are NOT serious gaming machines. If you are buying a mac solely for gaming, you are seriously misguided. Go for a blackbird or something.
 
CWallace said:
I don't see an iMac being "feature poor", since it also has Wireless N, Bluetooth, the ATI 2600, SuperDrive, etc. That should certainly keep Power Mac users quite happy and I expect the iMacs performance is as good as or better then many of those older Mac Pros.

Folks moving to the Mac Pro either need expandability or they can make use of the superior memory and network bandwidth of the Mac Pro's chipset and systemboard architecture.
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See this is where the xMac would be most loved. The desktop version of Penryn has higher memory bandwidth and just as fast network bandwidth as the MP (at a much cheeper cost).
 
I'm actually surprised at the upgrade price on the 8800GTs. Those things are still scarce and average at least $270 in the PC market. It's actually *gasp*, a good deal.
 
overcast said:
What exactly am I angry about? You can't understand how anyone could spend that money on a gaming machine. I can't understand how anyone could spend money on [insert crap here]. Get it? It's all subjective.
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You are at least annoyed, aren't you? You can't take the fact that everyone doesn't understand why you spend thousands of dollars to play Warcraft.
 
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