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Apple Announces Penryn Mac Pros and Xserve
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Yes, normal video cards can be supported in EFI, but only through EFI with a BIOS compatibility layer. Mac Pros have this (it's how they boot Windows), but OS X doesn't touch the BIOS compatibility layer because it has no reason to do so. That's why you can make out-of-the-box cards work in OS X, but only with some fairly ugly hacks in place. If Apple added support for any old video card, they could be opening up a support nightmare when people whine that some crapball bargain-bin card made their Mac crash.
Last I checked, a gallon of gas is more expensive than when the G5 was released. So is a gallon of milk. So is a loaf of bread.
What's your point?
Can't afford a shiny new Mac Pro? Get an old one from the refurb store. Or from eBay. Or get an iMac. Or get that cheap G5.
No one is forcing you to buy a new mac...
The update looks good as far as I'm concerned 
I went to configure a model and I ended up with a 2300 price for a Mac Pro with a 8800GT, 2Gb or RAM and a single Quad-Core CPU. It doesn't sound bad to me, especially if you consider the price of the higher end iMac!
People will always complain, this is Apple, there are people who just expect too much. As for BD not being there, are we sure that it's not there because Steve wants to break out the news himself at the MWSF Keynote? I don't think they would just add BD support without making some fuss out of it.
Anyway, let's hope for a rich MWSF, not that I'm overly optimistic but.. I also said last week that Apple wasn't going to upgrade the MacPro at MWSF and.. turns out they did.. at least close to it!
I just wish I could throw that 8800GT into my iMac.. the 7300GT sucks a$$ (I really need a console!!)
I went to configure a model and I ended up with a 2300 price for a Mac Pro with a 8800GT, 2Gb or RAM and a single Quad-Core CPU. It doesn't sound bad to me, especially if you consider the price of the higher end iMac!
People will always complain, this is Apple, there are people who just expect too much. As for BD not being there, are we sure that it's not there because Steve wants to break out the news himself at the MWSF Keynote? I don't think they would just add BD support without making some fuss out of it.
Anyway, let's hope for a rich MWSF, not that I'm overly optimistic but.. I also said last week that Apple wasn't going to upgrade the MacPro at MWSF and.. turns out they did.. at least close to it!
I just wish I could throw that 8800GT into my iMac.. the 7300GT sucks a$$ (I really need a console!!)
There is no 8-core CPU: it's 2 4-core CPUs in separate sockets. The 4-core option is a single CPU. So Intel charge exactly 2x for the 2 CPUs.
EXACTLY. This means that Apple will AT LEAST release the following at MW:
Superthin subnote;
Updated MBPs and MBs;
Mac Nano (headless Mac to replace the Mac Mini);
New Studio Displays.
Wait and see...another nail in MS's and PC makers' coffins...
While I hope you're right, this isn't the first time they've released products a week prior to a keynote. It either means more products or it means more time to talk about <sarcasm>really exciting stuff</sarcasm>, like movie rentals. Don't be shocked if it's the latter.
You're the one posting repeatedly without even reading the thread or checking your facts thoroughly...you don't think you might be the one with your panties in a bunch and needing to chill?
Some of us are at work. And Apple should revise the misleading "8-core standard" statement. I probably wouldn't have gotten that impression othewise. Andif you look back at my post, it was amended. There's no need for rolly-eyes either. And I posted twice about it. Jeez. Some of us are human and make mistakes.
Oh well
Damn, I really want to get a Mac Pro but I was hoping for a new design that's not, uh, GIGANTIC. Guess I'll stand by my trusty Quicksilver and hold out to see what the next tower design will be like.
Damn, I really want to get a Mac Pro but I was hoping for a new design that's not, uh, GIGANTIC. Guess I'll stand by my trusty Quicksilver and hold out to see what the next tower design will be like.
Yeah, they're awful. It's like an astronomer who predicts that an asteroid will hit the Earth around Tupelo at half past noon on December 13, 2012, when it actually hits 20 miles north of Poughkeepsie exactly one week earlier
I'm surprised that the mac pro case hasn't been redesigned?
However here in the UK, the mac pro now seems a lot better value for money at the standard spec especially with the built in bluetooth and keyboard as standard, plus the optional -£500 for single quad core (although i doubt weather anyone would go for the single core config). Having said that we're still paying much more the the US (~£350/$700)
However here in the UK, the mac pro now seems a lot better value for money at the standard spec especially with the built in bluetooth and keyboard as standard, plus the optional -£500 for single quad core (although i doubt weather anyone would go for the single core config). Having said that we're still paying much more the the US (~£350/$700)
I know right, it's amazing how people cry sour grapes when they can't afford something. I'd love a BMW, but I can't afford one, and I'm not bitching about it.
Why? The 8-core machine is the standard configuration. The 4-core machine is a Build-To-Order option. Their statement is 100% accurate.
Yeah, they're awful. It's like an astronomer who predicts that an asteroid will hit the Earth around Tupelo at half past noon on December 13, 2012, when it actually hits 20 miles north of Poughkeepsie exactly one week earlier
Yeah, I hate it when that happens.
Wow, just in the time it took you to type this message, 6 more pages were added
Either that or he just has his prefs set to show more posts per page...I'm still seeing 11 pages worth.
The point is that the price of technology goes down, it's not comparable to bread, milk, or gas.
That said, I don't think this is really a price increase from yesterday. The cheapest model is the exact same price, and the cost of getting an 8 core machine is hundreds less than it was yesterday.
Overall I'm happy with the new Mac Pro. Can't say I'm thrilled at the price increase, but the video card situation is pretty much what we expected. The 8800GT is a great card, and the 2600XT makes a good base card.
Blu Ray? Couldn't care less right now.
If Apple thought it proper to release the Mac Pro now they must have a cracking lineup for MWSF!
Blu Ray? Couldn't care less right now.
If Apple thought it proper to release the Mac Pro now they must have a cracking lineup for MWSF!
On a side note: Take a look at the 5400 Product Brief and notice the various RAM configurations.
http://download.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/dc54kprodbrief.pdf
Apple has decidedly chosen to limit the RAM on the Mac Pro.
Regarding DDR3 RAM: I'm interested in the matching bandwidth it offers most of all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3
For those looking for Blu-Ray, but not needing a burner, Sony released their $200 BDUX10S player at CES.
Right, the support is up to the OS. If there are no drivers then there is no support. Very simple.
EDIT: Let me put it this way, even if the GPU was "EFI native" Apple would still have to make a driver for OS X to use it.
Sorry, I worded my post badly - I just want to know what Intel's price of a single 4 core is so I can get a feel of how good a deal it is to save $500 and go with 4 cores instead of 8.
The 8-core is standard.The single core is BTO for less money.
Advise here :
If you want the NVidia 8800 you're gonna wait 3-5 weeks for delivery.