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Apple Announces Redesigned Mac Mini With M4 and M4 Pro Chips, Two Front USB-C Ports, and More

Allen_Wentz said:
TB5 has double the bandwidth. Use the HDMI port for one display amd you still have one high-bandwidth TB5 port remaining; that is what I do with my MBP and three 4K displays. I actually wonder if one TB5 port might drive two 4K displays.
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It is on the Apple website, which I don't think anyone checked.

Display Support
M4
Simultaneously supports up to three displays:
  • Up to three displays: Two displays with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one display with up to 5K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt or 4K resolution at 60Hz over HDMI
  • Up to two displays: One display with up to 5K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz over Thunderbolt or HDMI
Thunderbolt 4 digital video output
  • Support for native DisplayPort 1.4 output over USB-C
M4 Pro
Simultaneously supports up to three displays:
  • Up to three displays: Three displays with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt or HDMI
  • Up to two displays: One display with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz over Thunderbolt and one display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz over Thunderbolt or HDMI
Thunderbolt 5 digital video output
  • Support for native DisplayPort 2.1 output over USB‑C
HDMI display video output
  • Support for one display with up to 8K resolution at 60Hz or 4K resolution at 240Hz (M4 and M4 Pro)
 
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Man, that base $599 M4 is a steal! I can add an external SSD myself! Very tempting.

Especially since I have a gaming laptop for heavy lifting.
 
ps3zocker said:
Can't wait for the memes. They have put the power button on the bottom of the new mini!
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It looks like a great spot to place it since there is a gap between the bottom of the mini and any desk that is sits on, so you can easily access it with your finger.
 
wideEyedPupil said:
I'll be needing to buy a dedicated USB hub rather than using my 27" 4K displays as USB hubs I think if I upgrade from M2 Pro to M4 Pro. It's not the loss of USB-A I'm bemoaning, its the halving of ports on the back and calling it "more ports". More Apple spin more like it!
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There is a total of 5 ports (2 on the front) but how many ports do you need? It is 2024 and most stuff can be either ethernet, Wi-Fi or bluetooth these days.
 
ViralTrendsToday said:
Truly it's $999, don't run this thing on 256gb, 1tb is minimum, Especially for creatives.
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Not true at all. 512GB is the minimum for most people. I'm a creative and I have the M2 Pro with 512GB and still have 50% storage available. I have a 2TB external Thunderbolt drive and 2TB iCloud. Internal storage isn't as big of a deal anymore with the speeds of external storage now. The true question is does the new Mac mini support the USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 for the new drives that have 2100mb/s speeds. Currently no Macs do with Thunderbolt 4.
But 512Gb is the minimum in my opinion as a creative.
 
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eltoslightfoot said:
Why?

Edited to add: I can buy really fast external ssds for like $100 that will add a TB of space…
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See my other reply, If you are a creative, software apps and plugins alone can fill up 256gb quickly, even more. In my experience you need to leave 100 gb room on apple devices until the system starts slowing down. Considering that and you want peace of mind, 1tb is a minimum. Honestly it's so cheap hardware wise Apple should have made it standard, they've listened to the 16gb plea, now we need to get their attention on their hilarious 256gb option. Its 2024, minimum should be 16gb and 1tb.
 
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ViralTrendsToday said:
Truly it's $999, don't run this thing on 256gb, 1tb is minimum, Especially for creatives.
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No.

Unless you plan to travel with this all the time adding external storage to a desktop is a much easier proposition than doing so on a MacBook Air.

We will soon see some external docks that sit underneath this thing that will house an M.2 SSD some extra ports and perhaps even a card reader as we have on all previous Mac Mini models.

Preordering later today
 
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vbctv said:
Not true at all. 512GB is the minimum for most people. I'm a creative and I have the M2 Pro with 512GB and still have 50% storage available. I have a 2TB external Thunderbolt drive and 2TB iCloud. Internal storage isn't as big of a deal anymore with the speeds of external storage now. The true question is does the new Mac mini support the USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 for the new drives that have 2100mb/s speeds. Currently no Macs do with Thunderbolt 4.
But 512Gb is the minimum in my opinion as a creative.
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Why, if all I have is the OS on the main drive, why won’t 256GB work?
 
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vbctv said:
Not true at all. 512GB is the minimum for most people. I'm a creative and I have the M2 Pro with 512GB and still have 50% storage available. I have a 2TB external Thunderbolt drive and 2TB iCloud. Internal storage isn't as big of a deal anymore with the speeds of external storage now. The true question is does the new Mac mini support the USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 for the new drives that have 2100mb/s speeds. Currently no Macs do with Thunderbolt 4.
But 512Gb is the minimum in my opinion as a creative.
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Well I'm in music and film, and the essentials that can't be stored on external add up quickly.
 
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Wando64 said:
Show me how to use iCloud Drive on an external drive.
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No external support for iCloud Drive, but you can remove downloads so they don't take up storage and only live in the cloud. I have a 512GB M2 Pro Mac mini and use 1.5TB of 2TB iCloud space. And I still have almost 50% of my internal SSD available. And all my Final Cut stuff is on a 2TB external Thunderbolt drive.
 
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Aaaaargh…. I just know the base M4 max Mac Studio will sit at close to Mac Mini M4 Pro w 48/64gb ram price… It haunts meeeeeeeee 🫠

Atleast we get Macbook Pro M4 Max reveal tomorrow so we can see the damage between M4 Max/Pro
 
eltoslightfoot said:
Why, if all I have is the OS on the main drive, why won’t 256GB work?
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If you work with Final Cut Pro, you know that templates (generators, titles, transitions, effects) cannot be stored on an external drive, they must be stored in the Movies folder. Yes you can have projects and assets on external drives. But templates start to add up in space over time. 256Gb will work if you just do small work in FCP.
 
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ViralTrendsToday said:
See my other reply, If you are a creative, software apps and plugins alone can fill up 256gb quickly, even more. In my experience you need to leave 100 gb room on apple devices until the system starts slowing down. Considering that and you want peace of mind, 1tb is a minimum. Honestly it's so cheap hardware wise Apple should have made it standard, they've listened to the 16gb plea, now we need to get their attention on their hilarious 256gb option. It’s 2024, minimum should be 16gb and 1tb.
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Ah got it. I must not be what you consider a creative then. I have all Affinity products, Ulysses, Devonthink, VSCodium, etc., and all I use in my M1 MBP is around 150GB, and that is with all my Nextcloud files, etc.,

I can easily move all that stuff to the external drive and suffer not at all. My applications folder is 86GB.

I think this will work for me. Hmmm. But even if I go for the $800 512GB version, still a steal!
 
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vbctv said:
If you work with Final Cut Pro, you know that templates (generators, titles, transitions, effects) cannot be stored on an external drive, they must be stored in the Movies folder. Yes you can have projects and assets on external drives. But templates start to add up in space over time. 256Gb will work if you just do small work in FCP.
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You see, so why the earlier "no not true statement", add Logic to the mix as well, 256gb is a no go, and 500 is comically risky, 1tb is a minimum.
You all should really speak up about this, a 1tb m.2 is $80? Apple is charging 400 when it should really come as the minimal spec with 16gb.
 
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vbctv said:
If you work with Final Cut Pro, you know that templates (generators, titles, transitions, effects) cannot be stored on an external drive, they must be stored in the Movies folder. Yes you can have projects and assets on external drives. But templates start to add up in space over time. 256Gb will work if you just do small work in FCP.
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I don’t even own Final Cut Pro, but I do have iCloud Drive. Hmm. I would probably be okay on 256GB…
 
eltoslightfoot said:
Ah got it. I must not be what you consider a creative then. I have all Affinity products, Ulysses, Devonthink, VSCodium, etc., and all I use in my M1 MBP is around 150GB, and that is with all my Nextcloud files, etc.,

I can easily move all that stuff to the external drive and suffer not at all. My applications folder is 86GB.

I think this will work for me. Hmmm. But even if I go for the $800 512GB version, still a steal!
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Creative, but a different kind. If you are in Logic AND Final Cut not much you can move around but the current assets.
 
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