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Why are so many people using this as a Homelab? Wouldn't it be much better to just use something from synology or an old PC? Am I missing some nice performance form Macs or is it just the aesthetic (I does look pretty nice)?
 
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You see, so why the earlier "no not true statement", add Logic to the mix as well, 256gb is a no go, and 500 is comically risky, 1tb is a minimum.
You all should really speak up about this, a 1tb m.2 is $80? Apple is charging 400 when it should really come as the minimal spec with 16gb.
If a person is using Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro to that degree, why wouldn’t you go for the M4 Pro version anyway?
 
If a person is using Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro to that degree, why wouldn’t you go for the M4 Pro version anyway?
Oh I'm considering it, BUT even in my heavy storage use case my M1 (not pro or max) isn't that boggled up (it get so, but considering the generations passed I'd still need to see official benchmarks to decide if I would benefit form the pro ) , so I'm open to whatever. I'm not caught into the "get the max Apple has to offer band wagon", just trying to be realistic on specs.
 
They actually have 2 512GB SD base versions. One for $799 with 16GB RAM and one for $999 with 24GB RAM which is very cool. Now that 16GB is the minimum, you could do another 8GB to future-proof.
Yes at that price the 24gb (m4 pro was it?) looks better.
 
iCloud Drive can only reside on the main SSD.
Yes but files in iCloud Drive, Documents & Desktop can be removed from the SSD and ONLY live in the cloud by right-clicking and clicking Remove Download. This has been a feature for a long time now that some people still don't know about.
 
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Why are so many people using this as a Homelab? Wouldn't it be much better to just use something from synology or an old PC? Am I missing some nice performance form Macs or is it just the aesthetic (I does look pretty nice)?
What do you mean by Homelab? I have an old gaming PC I use for Unraid For Nextcloud, WebDAV, and Jellyfin. Is that the same thing? If so I agree?
 
I think M4 Pro with 48gb or 64gb ram is the sweetspot for me… Esp with memory bandwidth upgrade, it will likely scream in anything I throw at it… Light 3d work in blender/Zbrush… 4k editing/illustration/animation…

Do I need it? Currently mental acrobatics on olympic level justifying 48gb ram…. Might go just 24gb M4 pro and it will still murder my 2017 imac pro…
 
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I'm happy to see that they didn't murder the memory bandwidth on the M4 Pro. I mean, at least is beats the M1 Pro, which, in a massive head-scratcher of a decision, had the M3 Pro lagging behind my old M1 Pro(!!). I'm not in the market yet for $$$ reasons, but at least the M4 generation is looking interesting to me now.
 
Yes but files in iCloud Drive, Documents & Desktop can be removed from the SSD and ONLY live in the cloud by right-clicking and clicking Remove Download. This has been a feature for a long time now that some people still don't know about.

How do you back them up anywhere else if you don’t have a copy locally?

Please don’t tell me iCloud drive is your only back up
 
I still think the main steal is at $599. So cheap.

Like impulse buy cheap.

Edited to add: I don’t know though. Getting an M4 Pro 64GB RAM/512GB SSD for $1999 is actually pretty cheap as well.
 
One significant issue with the base storage capacity arises for those using DropBox... Apple now requires anything in DropBox that is also stored locally must be on the Mac's internal drive. So, if one wants instant access to large files that also reside in DropBox, the 256GB internal drive is a likely bottleneck.
Surely there is a way around that. Symbolic links maybe.
Looks like Dropbox is working on this, using an encrypted external drive. Search for "Dropbox for macOS on File Provider". I use OneDrive because we have a family 365 subscription and I don't see any way around it as of yet. $200 for an extra 256GB is maddening, but expected.

I'll probably have a dongled SSD as well, HDD time machine, etc. Still going to be a mess of cables unlike the pretty pictures in the ads.
 
If anyone sees this - I'll give you $500 right now
Don't trap your money in Apple Gift Cards!

Call Turbine Trade In today!
I paid a lot more than that about a year ago b/c I couldn't wait any longer to upgrade, M1 with 8GB was useless with lots of apps open. Probably over double once I convert from AUD to USD.Heck Safari still freezes my M2 with 16 GB three times a day!
 
What do you mean by Homelab? I have an old gaming PC I use for Unraid For Nextcloud, WebDAV, and Jellyfin. Is that the same thing? If so I agree?
Yeah, exactly. IMO its better to offload any heavy lifting to PC/Linux and use Mac as the head/monitoring if you want.

iCloud Drive can only reside on the main SSD (apart from the Photos library, that is)
That's where Optimize Mac Storage comes in clutch.
 
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How do you back them up anywhere else if you don’t have a copy locally?

Please don’t tell me iCloud drive is your only back up
Yes and no. I have a 2nd 2TB Thunderbolt drive that the files go on first before they go into iCloud. But my lesser-needed files just reside in iCloud. I have never had any issues with iCloud but I make sure all my important files are just in the iCloud Drive part and under their own folders. There are still a lot of people that don't understand (I see it on Reddit all the time) iCloud is 2 services in one, it's a sync and backup service but it's also a true cloud service. I see comments on Reddit all the time that iCloud is just a sync and backup service and always have to comment and say not true, the iCloud Drive folder is the true cloud part...
 
They actually have 2 512GB SD base versions. One for $799 with 16GB RAM and one for $999 with 24GB RAM which is very cool. Now that 16GB is the minimum, you could do another 8GB to future-proof.
I just pulled the trigger on the £999 top M4 model. I don’t do video editing or traditional ‘heavy lifting’ apps, so one could argue that an M4 Pro would be over spec’s for my productivity/office based needs.

RAM and SSD upgrade costs do smart a little, but this is to replace my 2017 MacBook Pro!
 
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Yes and no. I have a 2nd 2TB Thunderbolt drive that the files go on first before they go into iCloud. But my lesser-needed files just reside in iCloud. I have never had any issues with iCloud but I make sure all my important files are just in the iCloud Drive part and under their own folders. There are still a lot of people that don't understand (I see it on Reddit all the time) iCloud is 2 services in one, it's a sync and backup service but it's also a true cloud service. I see comments on Reddit all the time that iCloud is just a sync and backup service and always have to comment and say not true, the iCloud Drive folder is the true cloud part...
Yeah even on windows you can log into iCloud.com and get your files. Good point.
 
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