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Great. Looks like i will now be spending more money on downloads from apple, but I will also need a bigger hard drive :)
 
Oh well if you're talking about that version, then that's a different story :cool:

Yes, I'm talking about the better version :p
But seriously the live action of the Transformers was really lame (but I do have that version on iTunes as well), I've been a fan of the original series since the beginning (have it all on itunes) and I'm hoping with the sequel they improve the quality of the story line and make it closer to the original.
 



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Apple today announced that they are now offering high-definition movie sales and rentals through the iTunes Store.

A dedicated HD Movies page has been added to the iTunes Store [iTunes] to highlight the new content. Pre-orders for the James Bond movie "Quantum of Solace" and the thriller "Twilight" are currently being featured, with additional movies already available.

Previously, Apple had only offered high-definition movie rentals through the Apple TV in January 2008 and added support for high-definition TV shows via iTunes in September 2008.



Article Link: Apple Announces Release of HD Movie Sales and Rentals via iTunes


I rather purchase HD DVD than buying from iTunes.
 
Interesting that with a 720p movie in cinemascope 1:2.35 you only get 544 lines, which is kinda more like 544p
and with 1080p source in scope you get 817 lines
 
That's not the point. See the thing is for 99% of Americans, a 720p HD quality movie is very good. What you get from iTunes that you will never get from disc media is convenience. Imagine you own an Apple TV, iPhone/iPod Touch and a computer (Mac or PC). Once you buy a movie, it's on all your devices. Take a laptop on a plane or iPhone on a plane. Watch it on your 70" TV at home. Watch it on your computer. It's awesome! Not only that, how easy is it to purchase. Just a click and you have it in minutes! Plus you can give it to family, provided that you use one of your 5 DRM authorizations. Lastly, think about how easy it is to play it. Just a click on a menu and you're there. No need to shuffle around with a rack full of DVDs! Can't do any of that with physical media!

Personally I love Blu-Ray but honestly I also have an Apple TV and there isn't that much of a difference. You almost have to view them back to back to notice. The HD on Apple TV is great and will satisfy 99% of the people out there. I definitely prefer Apple TV/iTunes HD any day!

Kan-O-Z
I couldn't agree more. I have both and wouldn't trade either. Very little picture difference for the vast majority.
HD Battlestar episodes look much better on the ATV than on Warner Cable HD. And it's not available on Bluray.
 
Theres plenty of people that simply dont want to deal with physical (optical to be precise) media anymore.


I bet there are a lot more people that don't want to wait for hours to download inferior quality, low res HD movies at absurd prices. And be capped by their ISP at how many movies a month they can download.
 
Interesting that with a 720p movie in cinemascope 1:2.35 you only get 544 lines, which is kinda more like 544p
and with 1080p source in scope you get 817 lines

This is always true since there is no need to encode the black bars and if you zoom the picture to get your full 720 or 1080p then you are going to lose picture off the side. I would rather have the full picture.

What you're also missing is that the actual resolution, i.e. the size of the pixels, is exactly the same for 1280x720 or 1280x544.

Personally, I'm quite happy that they are going to sell movies in 720p. I would rather rent these days but there are always films you feel you would rather own. I have been through LD, DVD and even bought into HD DVD but haven't bothered with Blu-ray yet because the cost of the players has been too high here in NZ and the choice of discs too limited and overpriced.

I didn't want to go back to buying DVDs, in fact I have had enough enough of buying movies in general since I have so many that I just can't find the time to watch them, so renting makes perfect sense.

Picture quality of the ATV rentals is really pretty good. Even SD isn't terrible. A little softer than a high bit rate DVD but not too bad. 720p rentals are definitely better since they have roughly 3x the resolution of DVD and the colour is crisper.

Is it as good as HD DVD? Nope, but it is much better than DVD so I'm not too disappointed. Will I buy many? Nope, but when they start offering them in NZ I will probably buy a few so it is good to have the choice.

To all those moaning about it not being Blu-ray quality, well it isn't I agree. But it is better than DVD and more convenient than Blu-ray so it has a good shot. What I do know is that I can now rent a movie from iTunes and throw it up on my 100" HD projector and the experience is close to the local digital cinema down the road. Actually, my sound system is better since I have ribbon speakers and valve amplification, plus I get the best seat in the house and it only costs NZ$8 versus NZ$30 for my wife and I to see a movie.

A final note. I have to say that for the level of compression these movies have been through, they really look excellent. They don't suffer obvious posterisation and the fine details and textures are all there. They really are HD. Not 1080p but they are good quality 720p.
 
I bet there are a lot more people that don't want to wait for hours to download inferior quality, low res HD movies at absurd prices. And be capped by their ISP at how many movies a month they can download.

Well...I'm not capped by my ISP, have more time than money, don't own a single HDTV, but do have a iMac capable of HD but no Blu Ray player, and how many HD downloads from Apple does it take to equal the cost of a Blu Ray Player?

EDIT: either way how is an extra option a bad thing? the market will decide if this succeeds or fails and if it fails I believe Apple will have a talk with the studios and work to get the prices lowered.
 
Alright I synced W. over to the Apple TV and played it on my Sony Bravia XBR-4. Picture quality was as expected the same as any HD TV Show I've downloaded from the iTunes store. I'm sure if you have rented an HD movie from the iTunes store in the past you'll know what to expect.

I normally download movies strictly to take with me on my iPod. So paying a few extra dollars to also get a decent (if not great) copy in HD seems worth it to me. Does it match some 1080P BR movies no, but it is certainly better than what we had yesterday imo.
 
I doubt it. Many people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 50" screen. So you would need one massive screen (better build a room that has a 20 foot ceiling in it) to notice a jump to Super Hi-Vision.

Like I said before, the only significant jump I can see happening in the near future is a move to HDR screens. And when that happens it will be amazing.

P-Worm


Everybody can. I demo them side by side all all day long. The difference between 720 and 1080 is incredible. I have never had a customer choose a 720 over a 1080 tv when they've seen the demo of King Kong playing. They will go to a smaller screen if they have to, to get the 1080.
 
Wow. Not this assinine comparison again, between movies and songs.

Yes, because watching a movie which is the exact same thing as listening to a song, which you can do while doing pretty much anything, anywhere.

And if you've actually watched movies 50+ times, you have some serious ****ing issues. There's no point beating around that bush. No offense of course, but thats not by any means normal behavior. You're in the extreme, extreme minority of the population. With all the other things that can be done with ones time and all the movies out there to see, I'm trying imagine someone CHOOSING to sit though a movie they've watched 50 times before, and it blows my mind. When you imply its several movies you've done this with, its even tougher to swallow.

I consider it more like studying, but then again I must have issues. :rolleyes:
 
Well...I'm not capped by my ISP, have more time than money, don't own a single HDTV, but do have a iMac capable of HD but no Blu Ray player, and how many HD downloads from Apple does it take to equal the cost of a Blu Ray Player?

Our store brand is $199. Name brands $250-$550. I sell about 20 a week. We have a hard time keeping Blu-ray players in stock. I imagine we average about 100 a week. The HP, Sony and Dell laptops with Blu-Ray are very big sellers since we started demoing the Dark Knight on them.
 
Our store brand is $199. Name brands $250-$550. I sell about 20 a week. We have a hard time keeping Blu-ray players in stock. I imagine we average about 100 a week. The HP, Sony and Dell laptops with Blu-Ray are very big sellers since we started demoing the Dark Knight on them.

Sorry, I edited my post since you quoted me, but again a Blu Ray player=nothing to me since I don't have a HDTV and OS X or XP don't support external Blu Ray players, so in fact in my house downloading HD content is the best picture quality I can use.
 
Well...I'm not capped by my ISP, have more time than money, don't own a single HDTV, but do have a iMac capable of HD but no Blu Ray player, and how many HD downloads from Apple does it take to equal the cost of a Blu Ray Player?

EDIT: either way how is an extra option a bad thing? the market will decide if this succeeds or fails and if it fails I believe Apple will have a talk with the studios and work to get the prices lowered.

I agree about the the availability of an extra option. I would like an option to get a Blu-ray player on a Mac. :D
Don't get me wrong, I want the Apple HD downloads to succeed. I also want the choice to play the highest quality 1080 HD movies off of an optical disc.
 
Here's something I've noticed... and I think its a big problem... quite a few of the currently available HD movies for purchase do not include a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack. I really would hope Apple would require one at least for the HD file!
 
Sorry, I edited my post since you quoted me, but again a Blu Ray player=nothing to me since I don't have a HDTV and OS X or XP don't support external Blu Ray players, so in fact in my house downloading HD content is the best picture quality I can use.

Hopefully Apple's HD downloads will be a big hit for customers like you. And I agree. I don't think people should be forced to by Blu-players to watch HD content and the Apple download solution is great for them.
 
I agree about the the availability of an extra option. I would like an option to get a Blu-ray player on a Mac. :D
Don't get me wrong, I want the Apple HD downloads to succeed. I also want the choice to play the highest quality 1080 HD movies off of an optical disc.

Yeah, if you've got the set up Blu Ray is definitely better, no doubt about that, but this is a step forward for Apple, sure they're playing catch up again because of their refusal to adopt Blu Ray despite being on the Blu Ray Disc Association, but as I said an extra option is never bad. I'm sure Apple could offer 1080p movies and TV shows for the same price, the limit here is the ISPs, and rather than compressing the hell out of 1080p they decided to go with 720p, if I were in the same situation I'd do the same and I think most people would agree.
 
Here's something I've noticed... and I think its a big problem... quite a few of the currently available HD movies for purchase do not include a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack. I really would hope Apple would require one at least for the HD file!

I agree that did seem a bit odd to me.

Also when I first synced the file over to the Apple TV I had to reset it, to get it to play the HD Movie. I have never seen that before. I wonder if a software update is not soon to follow. But for now the Movie Shows up just like a TV show with the HD Logo beside it.
 
Here's something I've noticed... and I think its a big problem... quite a few of the currently available HD movies for purchase do not include a Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack. I really would hope Apple would require one at least for the HD file!

It just goes further to show you that they don't care about the quality of these "HD" movies.

Remember, "W", which is a lengthy movie, clocked in around 3GB and they call it HD.

While DVD uses the very inefficient MPG-2 codec, it's still worth noting that a DVD with Digital Dolby has double the footprint of these new "HD" movie downloads.
 
that's practically the price of a bluray...

... Why would you pay for a hi-def download when you could get a better quality DVD?

Simple. I don't want a disc format. I just got done transferring all my DVDs to .H264 to watch around the house off multiple Apple TV units. They broadcast off my PowerMac server which has multiple 1.5TB drives. Why in the WORLD would I want to go back to maintaining an army of plastic drink coasters? Besides, my projector is only 720P at the moment so Blu-Ray wouldn't be THAT much of an improvement regardless. As it is, I have no desire to replace all my DVDs all over again anyway so I will probably buy a few select movies for now and then only consider new movies I'd watch more than once. Otherwise, why buy any at all? I watch most movies ONE time.

Good luck storing and backing them up. It's time for Apple to adopt the Amazon VOD model of letting you re-download purchased content.

There are some pretty large hard drives available now. I just got two 1.5TB drives for $130 each. I've got OS9, Tiger, Leopard and over 350 DVDs, 400+ CDs and 200 music videos on it and still have well over 700GB free. I think I can fit a few HD movies without an issue....

On the other hand, I still don't see a RENT option for HD movies outside of Apple TV. Why would you be able to buy them in HD for your Mac and not rent them? It doesn't make much sense.
 
I bet there are a lot more people that don't want to wait for hours to download inferior quality, low res HD movies at absurd prices. And be capped by their ISP at how many movies a month they can download.

I had almost forgotten about that issue. Wait until some apartment complex of HD movie lovers brings down the town because they're downloading every James Bond movie.
 
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