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hmmm for 5 bucks more or less i can get up to 1080p Best quailty audio and specail Features plus in most cases a Digital Copy hmm ill pass and stick with blu ray
 
So where are you going to fit the 600in TV? I guess houses will be 15-16 times bigger by 2015!:p

Why do you need a six hundred inch TV? Fifty is fine.

The thing is, the jump from 1080p to 4320p is still noticeable. Beyond Super Hi-Vision, the human eye cannot discern difference in resolution, so it would be useless to market anything higher to consumers.

We'll have one more push from TV manufacturers to Super Hi-Vision, and they'll tout how much better it is over 1080p, but once we have Super Hi-Vision in place, they'll have to actually work on making the rest of the experience better to keep selling TVs (contrast ratio, color gamut, etc.).
 
Why do you need a six hundred inch TV? Fifty is fine.

The thing is, the jump from 1080p to 4320p is still noticeable. Beyond Super Hi-Vision, the human eye cannot discern difference in resolution, so it would be useless to market anything higher to consumers.

We'll have one more push from TV manufacturers to Super Hi-Vision, and they'll tout how much better it is over 1080p, but once we have Super Hi-Vision in place, they'll have to actually work on making the rest of the experience better to keep selling TVs (contrast ratio, color gamut, etc.).

I'm not disagreeing that TV displays will get better eventually, it's just not going to happen that fast for consumers. HD was invented in the 60's and it's still not in the majority of homes. There are also diminishing returns for that kind of advancement. Consumers won't be ready for that leap anytime soon.
 
We'll have one more push from TV manufacturers to Super Hi-Vision, and they'll tout how much better it is over 1080p, but once we have Super Hi-Vision in place, they'll have to actually work on making the rest of the experience better to keep selling TVs (contrast ratio, color gamut, etc.).

I doubt it. Many people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 50" screen. So you would need one massive screen (better build a room that has a 20 foot ceiling in it) to notice a jump to Super Hi-Vision.

Like I said before, the only significant jump I can see happening in the near future is a move to HDR screens. And when that happens it will be amazing.

P-Worm
 
Why do you need a six hundred inch TV? Fifty is fine.

The thing is, the jump from 1080p to 4320p is still noticeable. Beyond Super Hi-Vision, the human eye cannot discern difference in resolution, so it would be useless to market anything higher to consumers.

We'll have one more push from TV manufacturers to Super Hi-Vision, and they'll tout how much better it is over 1080p, but once we have Super Hi-Vision in place, they'll have to actually work on making the rest of the experience better to keep selling TVs (contrast ratio, color gamut, etc.).

You're still on this super HD kick? :rolleyes:
 
Consumers won't be ready for that leap anytime soon.

I think the same goes for the studios.

Once you start giving people image quality in the 4k/8k range you start to match the quality of the masters. I can't imagine the studios being interested in giving that kind of quality to consumers!

Not in the short term anyway.
 
Not me; the companies who make televisions.

Japan moves to Super Hi-Vision TV broadcasts in 2014.

You say that like everyone in Japan has or will have, one of these sets. I don't even think they've formally made the DTV switch yet.

That SHV signal might be broadcast in 2014... and I bet that one guy who can afford it will be Super-Hi excited!:D
 
7 movies WTF!!!????

That's all they have available for purchase? I come home from work, excited. Pop up my apple tv, super buzz kill!!! Oh well, I'm sure the selection will expand eventually. Till then, my girl and I have decided to put a stop on BD purchases... To each there own right? This is so much better for us than physical media. I just need to rip those baby's somehow now
 
Let's reiterate:

Poor man's crap quality 720p HD - √
Asstacular lossy sound - √
5 gig HD:SD downloads (which in Canada would bust bandwidth caps after 4 to 12 HD:SD downloads depending on how oppressive and criminal your ISP is) - √
20 DOLLARS for THIS!? (or in Canada, probably, 25) - √

Final grade: FAIL--

I'll stick with BluRay and actually get 1080p, lossless sound, zero hit on my laughable bandwidth (**** you, Robert Depatie, **** you right in the ass), and pay 20 canadian dollars for it all.
 
DAMN, I have been waiting for years to watch HD movies on my Cinema HD display.

Too bad I just bought a HDTV yesterday. Buying a PS3 for a Blu-Ray player tonight. Sorry Apple you were a day late and a dollar short.
 
What do you mean? The movie file? It depends. A direct rip of contents can be anywhere from the full size of a single-layer disk to the full size of a dual-layer disk.

I have a 1080p MPEG-4 ripped copy of The Dark Knight coming in at just under four gigabytes.

"The quality must suck!" :eek: No. It looks magnificent. Just as good as any of my HD DVDs on my HDTV.

I don't know what Apple is doing with their movies, other than the fact that they are TERRIBLE at getting filesizes down.

Apple is using 720p... compressed... and they're nudging the filesize of my 1080p rips that look good like tanj.

Well, all I can say is that you must have a seriously inferior quality HDTV, or you must sit much further away from the recommended seating distance, have the set poorly adjusted, etc.

I have a calibrated Sony 60" SXRD TV and a very good sound system. The picture quality difference between 1080P "HD" download and Blu-Ray is night and day different, and that doesn't even bring up the huge difference in audio quality between low bitrate DD and the newer uncompressed formats available on Blu-Ray discs.

As others have said, you're way off target on Blu-Ray being some passing fad. Uptake is much faster this past year than anticipated and people, amazingly, aren't stupid enough to think that the quality between a 50GB BD disc and a 3GB "HD Lite" 720P download are even close to being the same.

Television quality is constantly increasing and the price of BD players comes down every few months.

I would much rather buy a movie for $25 that I can play on any BD player I will ever own in the highest quality possible than "buy" a DRM laden file that I can only play on certain equipment.

Not to mention that the BD disc has actual resale value, it's a tangible item. What are you going to do if you want to sell off part of your $1000 iTunes movie collection?
 
No Current HD Rentals

I just looked at the rental offerings currently available. They all seem to be SD.

There weren't any HD rentals that I could find.
 
As an AppleTV owner, my first question is (haven't seen it answered on the 5 pages I've browsed on the comments here)...

When is AppleTV hard drive size going to be upgraded? I would think these HD movies are at least double the size of SD. Apple's argument, even if they haven't said it, against movies to own in HD is the enourmous size they take up. Where's the 2TB AppleTV?

(Yes, I know about the hack, I mean a standard release...)
 
Ok seriously, how large is the market for 'buying' digital movies? I mean, how many people care about watching a movie more than once or twice? Most people I know who buy movies are the obsessive collector types, who get enjoyment out of owning the physical DVD case, art, etc. The same type of people who for this reason buy CDs, etc. They have that kind of rationalization, and while I dont have it myself, I can at least understand it.

I just don't see why someone would pay $20 to own a digital copy of a movie, that isnt even 1080P. Just seems silly.
 
I doubt it. Many people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 50" screen. So you would need one massive screen (better build a room that has a 20 foot ceiling in it) to notice a jump to Super Hi-Vision.

Like I said before, the only significant jump I can see happening in the near future is a move to HDR screens. And when that happens it will be amazing.

P-Worm

You won't need anything bigger than a 50" screen. Can you tell the difference between a 1 MP photo and a 4 MP photo? If not, don't worry about it. The difference is super HD will look REAL. Not like a screen, just like looking outdoors.

I'm just amazed at how many people are excited to spend 20 dollars on:

1) a compressed, poor qualtiy "HD" download.
2) with poor audio
3) that they can't sell, share, or loan to people (oh right, 5 people you share your itunes account wtih :rolleyes:)
4) that they have to devote hard drive space and backups to.

I'll take BD disks any day of the week. The only time itunes downloads would appeal to me is if I had the right to re-download them as many times as I wanted/needed... and even then I doubt I could put up with the quality.

Compressed video sucks. I have a 52" 1080p TV and it is very apparent when I'm watching a BD versus some compressed "HD" thanks to Comcast or Apple.
 
Do you only listen to songs once too? There are films I've seen 50+ times.

Wow. Not this assinine comparison again, between movies and songs.

Yes, because watching a movie which is the exact same thing as listening to a song, which you can do while doing pretty much anything, anywhere.

And if you've actually watched movies 50+ times, you have some serious ****ing issues. There's no point beating around that bush. No offense of course, but thats not by any means normal behavior. You're in the extreme, extreme minority of the population. With all the other things that can be done with ones time and all the movies out there to see, I'm trying imagine someone CHOOSING to sit though a movie they've watched 50 times before, and it blows my mind. When you imply its several movies you've done this with, its even tougher to swallow.
 
Wow. Not this assinine comparison again, between movies and songs.

Yes, because watching a movie which is the exact same thing as listening to a song, which you can do while doing pretty much anything, anywhere.

And if you've actually watched movies 50+ times, you have some serious ****ing issues. There's no point beating around that bush. No offense of course, but thats not by any means normal behavior. You're in the extreme, extreme minority of the population.

I disagree. Certain movies are absolutely worth watching that many times, great films like the Godfather or Lawrence of Arabia.

Do you watch the Transformers and the Fast & the Furious or something?
 
And if you've actually watched movies 50+ times, you have some serious ****ing issues.

I think you just stirred a hornet's nest here. I'm a huge movie buff, and theres a couple of movies where I've seen countless times.

Are you also going to say I have serious **** issues as well? Thats a pretty big and bold statement to say to people who just love movies in general.

For some, film can be more of a passion, than just a hobby. Get over yourself.
 
I disagree. Certain movies are absolutely worth watching that many times, great films like the Godfather or Lawrence of Arabia.

Do you watch the Transformers and the Fast & the Furious or something?

Hey now, I've watched Transformers The Movie multiple times since I was like 5 (24 now) :p
 
I haven't read all the many posts, but just in time!

Refurb Blu-ray players at Sony for $149, and Blu-ray discs on sale at Amazon for $13 - $20 (no tax and free shipping for orders over $20).

Not to mention being able to "hold" the actual media, on top of the 1080p picture quality (if your set can handle it).

They should make these 720p downloads $14.99...
 
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