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Have seen this question elsewhere and it seems so obvious that Apple should say something about it - CAN I BUY A WATCH WITHOUT THE BAND?
I'm going to guess that you can. I mean, those of us who bought the AW1 didn't have bands on hand; we had to buy a band with the watch. But with AW1 buyers upgrading to AW2 and already having bands, it's be silly not to have the option to just buy the watch, solo.
 
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I'm going to guess that you can. I mean, those of us being the AW1 didn't have bands on hand, so had to buy the watch with a band. But with AW1 buyers upgrading to AW2 and already having bands, it's be silly not to have the option to just buy the watch, solo.

Confused by the bold part. Is there a 'not' missing, and are you saying you purchased an original AW without a band? From an Apple store?

However, the last part of what you wrote is interesting, as an incentive to existing owners, being able to buy without a band (for a little less) would be terrific.
 
I'm sold. I already loved the look of the Apple Watch, but had promised myself not to buy the first generation product. This isn't a flashy update, but it's a very thoughtful one.
 
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Thinking out loud here is I had blogged about this but don't allow comments.

I received my SS SB 42MM Link Apple Watch May 21st, 2015. I paid $1099 + $99 for AppleCare. I'm looking on sold listings on eBay and lowest is $420, highest is $570. Did I really lose 50% of the watch value after 14 months of ownership?

This is completely unlike any other Apple Product I've ever owned. I generally lose 25% of the value in 1 year, 35% in 2 years, 40% in 3 years like my 3 year old iMac that I bought for $2500 selling for $1600.

I usually only lose $200 on iPhones when I upgrade once a year.

I was going to upgrade to the series 2 SS SB Link bracelet but I'm not spending $500 a year to have the latest and greatest Apple Watch.

At least around here the AW has been 25-50% off at retailers for most of 2016..
Not exactly flying of the shelves..
 
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And series 3 will be what the second gen should have been. No need to feel sorry for people. If the first gen was what they were looking for then they should be happy with that purchase.

Sorry ???
I am a first gen buyer for the past year and half. WatchOS 3 coming next week will pretty much bring the speed enhancement we need.

A gen 2 device with a modest speed bump, a GPS ( i do track mu running with the Apple watch but I am not in need an accurate run millage calculation as people who do "seriou" training)

No battery improvement mentionned as of yet !
To me I feel like a winner having had the watch the past year and using it!

To me watchOS 3 is more trilling then applewatch series 3 !! I will wait for gen 3 who is probably an other year and half away !
Having a product for 3 years without upgrading is winner to me :)
 
I'm pretty torn, but I think I'll wait another 18-24 months for the 3rd gen. It's a much better value, but $369 is a little steep for me and the battery life is still something that bothers me about it.
 
Can you use the wireless headphones with it to play music while you are running? Or do I need to bring the iPhone along with me?

GPS would be nice for tracking swimming.
 
I can see the novelty of this band wearing off quickly when the owner has to fiddle about with 2 buckles every day
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Does it show the time when you look at it?

I just switched to a Gear S2 (and Galaxy... just to see what I'm missing :p) and I cannot tell you how much more useful the watch is when you can just look down and see the time on the always-on display. Granted I had to turn that feature on and it eats more battery, but I can still get through the day on a full charge.

(I'll switch back when the Apple Watch gets OLED and a cellular connection)
Apple Watch already has OLED...
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i have the original watch and i am like crying right now smh this model is so much better
How is this one so much better? It is literally just more water resistant and has gps (and a better processor). AND more expensive. This seems like a good upgrade if you have cash to blow and just happen to want it...but it's not a quantum leap by any stretch. In fact, I'll be getting the series 1 with upgraded processor for only $269 and passing my Apple Watch down to my daughter. If it wasn't for her wanting mine so bad, I wouldn't even buy a new one
 
Confused by the bold part. Is there a 'not' missing, and are you saying you purchased an original AW without a band? From an Apple store?
I mean, those of us being the AW1 didn't have bands on hand, so had to buy the watch with a band.
Yes, I am confused. Doesn't "Didn't have bands" = "did not have bands" and so satisfy the "not" requirement you're looking for?

But the quote did need editing to fix the weird auto-correct which changed a misspelling to "being." It should read--and now does read--"those of us who bought the AW1..." Does that now make sense?
 
I can see the novelty of this band wearing off quickly when the owner has to fiddle about with 2 buckles every dayView attachment 648974
Heh. If you're got the money to buy that Hermes watch and band, you probably have a valet, maid or cabana boy who can buckle those for you :cool:
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Can you use the wireless headphones with it to play music while you are running? Or do I need to bring the iPhone along with me?
Another good question. I'd say absolutely. I don't know for sure, but you CAN put a playlist on the watch now, and listen to it without the phone on wireless headphones. And we saw that once you connect the Air Pods to one device, you've connected to all, including the watch.

So...extremely likely you can listen to music from the watch on the Air Pods. In fact, I'm thinking the Air Pods probably pair with AW1 and you can do it with that watch as well as the AW2.
 
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I'll feel sorry for people who buy the second gen AW when the 3rd gen comes out as it will be what the second gen should've been.

I feel sorry for everyone who bought a gold Apple Watch which was obsolete in 18 months instead of buying a mechanical watch which will last hundreds of years. Actually, I don't often sorry for stupid people who have more money than sense.
 
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Series 2 is iterative but that's what I expected from the second release. It fixed all of the shortfalls of the first.

It's fast, has GPS for running without a phone (which was the point of the Watch anyway) and is now officially waterproof.

That's all they needed moving forward. Now, let's start pushing the envelope. Upcoming Apple Watches should push to be thinner, include a low powered cell radio for full iPhone independence, add sensors for blood oxygenation and pressure, and maybe some day the holy grail: non invasive blood sugar measurements.

I have a black Apple Watch Sport. I'm getting a ceramic.
 
Didn't the AW1 originally start at $450? Now it's down to $369 for the latest AW2. This is proof that no one is buying these things. Apple flop.

Wrong. The original 42 MM aluminum Apple Watch started at $400.00, with the 38 MM under that. The aluminum models have been discounted for while now. The Stainless version, which I own, have retained their normal pricing.

And all your Apple Watch posts are hateful, so hopefully no one reads into your anecdotal opinion, which holds no bar.
[doublepost=1473308568][/doublepost]My thoughts are by Version 3, we will see a round version. Now I welcome a round version after seeing Samsung's S3. I think Apple could please both parties who want square and round iterations. Hopefully the bands don't change quite yet.
 
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Can you use the wireless headphones with it to play music while you are running? Or do I need to bring the iPhone along with me?

GPS would be nice for tracking swimming.

You can already use BT headphones with the watch without a phone.
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I feel sorry for everyone who bought a gold Apple Watch which was obsolete in 18 months instead of buying a mechanical watch which will last hundreds of years. Actually, I don't often sorry for stupid people who have more money than sense.

Those people have enough money to laugh at you feeling sorry for them. They own 50 watches of all kind and don't give a crap what you think about them; except as comedy.
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The series 2 needs to be half the price it is. £399 for the cheapest 42mm watch. Ridiculous. They also need to do something about the design. A rectangular face just doesn't do it.

Well, buy a Gear S3 then, see all is solved.
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Differences:
1) Water thingy (the new one is made for swimming)
2) GPS (new one can connect to satellites--good if you're hiking, traveling about, etc.)
3) Run without iPhone (new one can go on a run and track your progress without iPhone--old one you need to take your phone on the run with you)
4) Brightness (new one is brighter and easier to read in daylight--old one you may need to shade to read on bright days)
5) New one comes in ceramic and Nike special.

Those are the big differences. Oh and the new one has a faster and better processor, but I don't know if the difference would be that noticeable between the two unless you were doing something processor heavy on them like playing games. Reviews might say if it's a huge and worthwhile difference.

If you need/want any of the above, get AW 2. If not, get AW1. Why pay extra for what you don't need?

Responsiveness will be much better with a faster processor (and Watch OS 3), so they'll be a difference.
That's especially true if you run third party apps as Apple native apps are probably well tuned and tightly integrated so you won't see much difference.
 
No the original started at $349. So it's up $20. And it owns 80% of the smart watch market. In fact, it sold more in preorder weekend then all smart watch sales combined previously.

Didn't the AW1 originally start at $450? Now it's down to $369 for the latest AW2. This is proof that no one is buying these things. Apple flop.
 
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My SB link bracelet has a lot of the coating rubbing off on the edges. Every link on the thin edge has regular steel showing through. The sapphire screen though is still scratch free along with the watch itself.
What about the watch itself (edges, sides, area where links attach) -- has the black finish scratched to reveal plain steel beneath? I am wary of the stainless steel due to the gloss finishes - the non-colored stainless seems to show lots of scratches. I have the space grey aluminum watch, which is a matte finish - and there are no noticeable scratches as far as I can tell. I would like to upgrade to a SS black or simply SS, but they sound less durable.
 
Apple comes out with a watch, everybody cries, "too expensive!" Apple lowers the price, "proof it's a flop!" Was there any scenario deemed worthy of a positive response?

Duh. The scenario worthy of a positive response would have been: cheaper initial price, 1 month battery life, half as thick, 5x faster, GPS, waterproofing, and a compelling use case.
 
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Duh. The scenario worthy of a positive response would have been: cheaper initial price, 1 month battery life, half as thick, 5x faster, GPS, waterproofing, and a compelling use case.
Nope, I'm pretty sure at this point they would have complained that the watch you describe doesn't come with free ice cream.
 
The ceramic edition is pretty interesting, given that the gold Apple watch consisted of roughly 70% ceramic already. It's like they left out what made it really expensive and dropped the price by one figure.
 
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