no it isn't. If Venmo was going to be in trouble from Apple, it would have been with the advent of Apple Pay Cash. Venmo has been doing just fine, and so I expect they will continue to be fine.And just like that, Venmo is in trouble.
no it isn't. If Venmo was going to be in trouble from Apple, it would have been with the advent of Apple Pay Cash. Venmo has been doing just fine, and so I expect they will continue to be fine.And just like that, Venmo is in trouble.
Hate us cuz you ain’t us ?“In the US”
Of course.
This sounds like a great feature. It should be available everywhere.
Of course - do you think Apple wants it limited to the US? Part of it is that the US is probably the largest market for DAU of debit and credit cards. The other part is that there are regulatory hurdles to clear in other markets where other processors are likely to put up some degree of a fight (looking at Australia as an example).“In the US”
Of course.
This sounds like a great feature. It should be available everywhere.
"The earlier iPhones don't have the same NFC setup as the iPhones XS and later have. You can't even read NFC tags on earlier iPhones but you can on new ones."
Someone mentioned there's a chipset difference and ability to submit more power to the NFC chip on the XS, which perhaps makes more sense. But... NFC read/write ability in some form came with the 6S. There was a bit of hardware called Libre four years ago (NFC ISO 15693 -vicinity based, no tapping required) that could be slapped on your shoulder, scan the tag with an app to activate it, and pull data. That activation wrote to the NFC tag not allowing another device to subsequently activate it.
Exactly right. Australia is way way ahead of the US in terms of contactless payments and digital payments in general. But new entrants like this always hit up against the stupid and slow moving Australian regulatory regime.Of course - do you think Apple wants it limited to the US? Part of it is that the US is probably the largest market for DAU of debit and credit cards. The other part is that there are regulatory hurdles to clear in other markets where other processors are likely to put up some degree of a fight (looking at Australia as an example).
You don't need TouchID or FaceID to initiate a payment with a contactless credit card. You just need to be within range of the card.That's going to work really well if the iPhone screen is off and locked in your pocket, and most likely it will require a FaceID scan to even accept the payment let alone pay
Sure. But it's also a huge risk and a lot of effort, and it gets found out once a few people get charged and they report it to the credit card companies if they go through. And it can be done today without anything by Apple, just use the Square contactless reader.
Yes, but it's less conspicuous when a person is holding an iPhone in their hand compared to a contactless NFC device like a Square reader or Clover Go.That was true before this existed. Portable contactless terminals aren't new.
Does that include iPhone SE 2020?
Is it? Both of those readers are smaller than a phone and could be stripped down to be even smaller and inconspicuous. If crime is the goal, this isn’t the home run you’re making it out to be.Yes, but it's less conspicuous when a person is holding an iPhone in their hand compared to a contactless NFC device like a Square reader or Clover Go.
Maybe it's just me, but I would see someone trying to tap my pants with their phone. But if someone has a reader in their pocket or bag and bump into me, it would be less noticeable. Either way, it exists already and it's defeated by RFID blocking wallets.Yes, but it's less conspicuous when a person is holding an iPhone in their hand compared to a contactless NFC device like a Square reader or Clover Go.
I’m surprised it didn’t require a new iPhone. The new mask id does.![]()
That's widely available around the world!“In the US”
Of course.
This sounds like a great feature. It should be available everywhere.
The minute they release an iPad with NFC enabled this will work on it. Not a single iPad has NFC enabled yet, and they can't enable it in current iPads with a software update because they don't have NFC antennas.I wonder how long it will take for them to open this up the the iPad.
Just because the tech is available doesn't mean the gatekeepers will allow it to be used.“In the US”
Of course.
This sounds like a great feature. It should be available everywhere.
Ah, good point. They should get on it then — iPad has been an ideal payment terminal for years thanks to services like square and stripe. An iPhone isn't as convenient to use in a shop, for instance. Customers like to see the interface, as opposed to getting a phone handed to them)The minute they release an iPad with NFC enabled this will work on it. Not a single iPad has NFC enabled yet, and they can't enable it in current iPads with a software update because they don't have NFC antennas.
Yeah but as a POS terminal businesses almost always need to take chip or magstripe so they've needed a separate reader. The iPad itself has been good at running software and handling the logistics of it, but not in actually taking a card. The iPad will never get chip or magstripe built in, so this makes little difference until every card in the wild has gained contactless.Ah, good point. They should get on it then — iPad has been an ideal payment terminal for years thanks to services like square and stripe. An iPhone isn't as convenient to use in a shop, for instance. Customers like to see the interface, as opposed to getting a phone handed to them)
Yes, I realize that — I've used stripe for years. Yes, until people are more contactless — it won't be a complete solution. However, we are becoming more and more contactless. Even in the U.S.Yeah but as a POS terminal businesses almost always need to take chip or magstripe so they've needed a separate reader. The iPad itself has been good at running software and handling the logistics of it, but not in actually taking a card. The iPad will never get chip or magstripe built in, so this makes little difference until every card in the wild has gained contactless.
True. I have 12 cards, 2 debit and 10 credits (mostly because they offered money for opening an account lol). There's 8 contactless cards, and 4 without contactless. So that's 2/3rds, probably can get 3 out of the 4 upgraded to contactless, only one without a contactless version? The Apple Card. Ironic? Maybe, but they really really want you to use Apple Pay and the physical card is a backup, so that makes some sense.Yes, I realize that — I've used stripe for years. Yes, until people are more contactless — it won't be a complete solution. However, we are becoming more and more contactless. Even in the U.S.![]()
Yes, I realize that — I've used stripe for years. Yes, until people are more contactless — it won't be a complete solution. However, we are becoming more and more contactless. Even in the U.S.![]()
I’m surprised it didn’t require a new iPhone. The new mask id does.![]()