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10.5.2

Seems pretty nice. Good size, good functionality.

I guess this requires an update to time machine, thus leopard, so..

Where is my leopard update?
 
"We don't know how -- now, it just works!™"



Haha, NO. My AEBS(n)'s drives get about 5MB/sec tops.

You misunderstand. I'm saying my AEBS with USB drive is slow, but Time Capsule would presumably be faster since a large reason for the poor performance with AEBS + USB external is the USB factor.
 
Well, look back at my comment about my grandmother. She has a Macbook she uses to surf the web, send e-mails, and store photos from her digital camera and videos I send her of her grand-daughter.

If her hard drive dies, what would you suggest she do? What other product could she use to back-up her data? What's as easy as this? I can't think of many.

Um an external hard drive.


I am using a 500GB Maxtor Plus 4 as my local Time Machine store, and while it is wired, it's in a "sealed box".

Lots of people use external HDDs from companies like Seagate, WD, and Maxtor that are in "sealed boxes" as auxiliary storage.

Why is that such a bad thing in the Time Capsule? :confused:

If you really want to be able to swap HDDs, then buy an external wireless NAS that you need to supply your own HDD from someone else and go to town. :)

An external HDD enclosure costs ~$25. So it's not as big of a deal if you have to replace it with the drive. Time capsule puts you in the position of throwing out your airport extreme just because the attached external HDD is full or dead. That's just nuts.
 
This could be very handy to watch films via a 360.

Well, DRM free films from certain sources anyway.

Huh? I thought the 360 required a upnp device to work - it can't use SMB mount points, right? I mean I can stream AVIs from my MBP now using connect360 but not directly from my USB drive that's attached to by AEBS. It has to run through a upnp device.
 
Huh? I thought the 360 required a upnp device to work - it can't use SMB mount points, right? I mean I can stream AVIs from my MBP now using connect360 but not directly from my USB drive that's attached to by AEBS. It has to run through a upnp device.

Well I guess I will have to use the PS3 than. I have both.
 
I will be upset if they don't offer an update in the near future to add AEBS+USB-drive support to Time Machine. I will be extremely upset if they don't find a way to make the USB drives more reliable when used via the AEBS.
 
You misunderstand. I'm saying my AEBS with USB drive is slow, but Time Capsule would presumably be faster since a large reason for the poor performance with AEBS + USB external is the USB factor.
I really don't think the USB factor has much if anything to do with the slowness of Air Disk. The bottleneck instead is the pokey processor in the AEBS. Translating a network protocol to/from disk block access is not a trivial task; that is exactly why most NAS devices are horribly slow (at least until you get into the multi-thousand dollar range of the commercial marketplace). Unless they improved the processor, I would not expect much if any better performance numbers from Time Capsule vs. Air Disk. Only time will tell...
 
Personally I think this is the star of the show, a wireless base station with a 1tb network drive that will stream to Apple TV. Marvellous....

And it also does back ups apparently.

:D
 
I really don't think the USB factor has much if anything to do with the slowness of Air Disk. The bottleneck instead is the pokey processor in the AEBS. Translating a network protocol to/from disk block access is not a trivial task; that is exactly why most NAS devices are horribly slow (at least until you get into the multi-thousand dollar range of the commercial marketplace). Unless they improved the processor, I would not expect much if any better performance numbers from Time Capsule vs. Air Disk. Only time will tell...

Interesting point Danny. In that case, I really hope they add Time Machine support for AEBS+USB. I cannot think of any reason that they wouldn't except for this being a money-grab.
 
Looks pretty interesting

I've put off going wireless at home for a long time since I don't bring my MB home often. Recently I've been doing more website updates and want to start editing 2.5 years worth of movies we have taken since my son was born. Additionally, our 6 year old 80 gig hard drive is getting full and won't fit much of the edited movies on it.

This could be a great solution for me to replace the old external drive, which also houses my iTunes library- I wonder if this machine would replace it without problem?- and add wireless -2 birds with one stone here. How could I connect this to my stereo to stream iTunes, would that work? Then I could have wireless using my laptop, store movie clips and my itunes library on it (and maybe use time machine to some extent, I don't know if I'd want it since I won't back up my work files at home, we have an Xserve at work doing that).:cool:
 
ok, so in attempts to read all of the technical mumbo jumbo i just got confused....


is this a wireless hard drive i can store and access my files from all around the house wirelessly?

or is it just a device i can use with time machine?

do i have to use time machine or can i just use it as a wireless hard drive?


PLEEEEEEAAAASEEE help :)

It's pretty unclear from the website exactly what one can do. That said, it appears that

1) The internal hard drive is for Time Capsule use only (perhaps subject to change or hacking)

2) You can hook up an external HD to the USB port and get NAS functionality like on the AEBS.
 
Personally I think this is the star of the show, a wireless base station with a 1tb network drive that will stream to Apple TV. Marvellous....

And it also does back ups apparently.

:D

Too many questions though. Even simply how good the enclosure is, are there now fans or do they take an approach like Seagate's FreeAgent Pro which is fanless, and if so how do they prevent overheating, etc. I wouldn't shell out money for this unless it's undergone at least a second revision or else undergone some serious stress testing...
 
Personally I think this is the star of the show, a wireless base station with a 1tb network drive that will stream to Apple TV. Marvellous....

And it also does back ups apparently.

:D

If that's true, I'd agree. But i'm not sure it's a full-on network drive as configured (although surely it can be hacked to be that . . . )
 
Likely nothing - as long as you only have one Mac using it as a TMD. It might not be able to support more then one Mac.

Time Capsule seems to have software that allows it to maintain multiple, separate, Time Machine datastores so more then one Mac can use it, without overwriting each machine's datastore.

You are incorrect. Time Machine with a local HD does not 'partition' anything. It makes a folder called Backups.backupdb and inside that makes a separate folder for each machine that backs up to the same drive, into which it copies the differential changes since the last backup.
 
This is crap.

It's a pretty cool device, sure, but they've got millions of customers with laptops, tens of thousands who have Leopard installed, and most of whom wanted to use Time Machine- thousands of them with the Airport Extreme and an external drive. So, with all of those customers out there, why don't they fix the Airport Extreme so that a connected external drive will work with Time Machine? Like other readers, I have a fully-functioning AE with a 500GB HD, and a laptop. Seems like it's just a software update they could add to the AE to help us get the same functionality out of something we purchased with great hope of this feature not very long ago.
 
An external HDD enclosure costs ~$25. So it's not as big of a deal if you have to replace it with the drive. Time capsule puts you in the position of throwing out your airport extreme just because the attached external HDD is full or dead. That's just nuts.

The thing comes with a warranty, and may very well offer AppleCare. So between one and three years, you'll be covered.

After that, just crack it open and swap out the HDD. The thing will not be "welded" shut with melted plastic, so the review sites will show how to take it apart within a day of getting it. Just print out the article and keep it safe. :D
 
The thing comes with a warranty, and may very well offer AppleCare. So between one and three years, you'll be covered.

After that, just crack it open and swap out the HDD. The thing will not be "welded" shut with melted plastic, so the review sites will show how to take it apart within a day of getting it. Just print out the article and keep it safe. :D

Wow, I wish I shared your optimism! I hope you're right but I'm not willing to make the gamble right now.
 
Huh? I thought the 360 required a upnp device to work - it can't use SMB mount points, right? I mean I can stream AVIs from my MBP now using connect360 but not directly from my USB drive that's attached to by AEBS. It has to run through a upnp device.

Theres a bit of software called Twonkyvison installed as standard on a fair few other NAS, enables you to watch films via an xBox 360.
 
just for the record, who is saying that the feature won't be restored for just the base station as well?
 
Theres a bit of software called Twonkyvison installed as standard on a fair few other NAS, enables you to watch films via an xBox 360.

OK sure, but you still need either a upnp device or to use a NAS that supports the streaming. The Time Capsule itself won't be sufficient for streaming.
 
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