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Does anybody really want an Apple netbook? I know there are people who want a smaller MacBook, but that's different from a netbook. It seems to me that people who specifically want Apple want to use a lot of its multimedia features and/or graphics capabilities, not just web surfing and word processing.
 
Haha maybe the real reason why Apple doesn't want to give us a netbook is because between the stupid dock and the menu bar there wouldn't be any room left for productivity.
 
Spoken by someone who hasnt used the MBA Gen. 1:rolleyes:

Even with "superior" specs, mine couldnt do video without stuttering.

My refurb 1st Gen MBA plays every video I've thrown at it without any stuttering. It's no net-book.
 
I read this article as saying that the ARM-based and 7" original eeePC netbooks are dead, not the current crop. Note the quote: "They wouldn't run Windows XP with acceptable performance, never mind Windows Vista." My aspire one runs XP perfectly fine for my use, and probably day-to-day use.

Perhaps you are right.

My eeePC901X, however, wasn't adequate for XP initially - the 12 GB SSD split across two disks was barely usable.

I upgraded the RAM to 2 GiB (standard SO-DIMM) and upgraded the 8 GB SSD to 64 GB ($135 at Newegg) - now it's happily dual-booting between XP and Windows 7.

My only real complaint now is the keyboard - I wish that I had the 10" with a standard size keyboard.

Therefore, my ideal netbook would be 10" with 64GB/2GiB.
 
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I really don't think a low-end iPhone would be useful...I guess the MacBook Air is their small, portable notebook, so there isn't really a need for a netbook at this time.

1. In the analysts call apple acknowledged a market--India--where price was a barrier to adoption and said it intended to address those markets. If that didn't concede they were going to market a cheaper phone there I'm not sure what people need for confirmation.

2. People say apple doesn't want to produce a $500 netbook to compete with $500 pc netbooks. Who says they have to? They compete against 500 and 1500$ NOTEbooks with models costing twice as much and convince a sizeable market share based on superior design and software. Why not a $1000, 9" or 10" innovative MBA model to capture netbook market share with the same appeal? Cost isn't the only reason ppl buy netbooks--there are low end pcs at the same price. It's portability and convenience. Apple can win that game.
 
You remember the days when the Apple lineup had variety?

iBooks were 12", 14" and the Powerbook 12",15", and 17"

I do not expect Apple to come out with a netbook and those who do are thoroughly out of touch with reality. Apple making a notebook for less then $500? Hahaha, thanks for the laugh.

What I do expect is Apple to be more flexible like they were years ago. I want to see a variety of sizes not just the 13.3" notebooks

They dropped the ball with the MBA they had the opportunity to bring back small laptops that are also light but they missed the mark. 13.3" ultraportable? No, thanks call me when it's 12" or less.

The iPod Touch I see so much potential in the product more so then a lot of others. I feel like they need to push it as a UMPC and that will fill the gap.
 
Good..
Low end iPhone = Dumb.
Any netbook = Dumb.

Do you really need a miniature computer that's a piece of trash?


Well.. maybe you don't, and personally I don't really see the point in a netbook. I think my alu macbook is the perfect size, and there is no need to go any smaller than this. But for many people, a netbook fits their needs, just look at the sales numbers.
 
I'll try some WMV-HD trailers on my eeePC when I get home....

The 6 Mbps 720p trailers are fine - a couple of stutters at the start, then smooth.

The 9 Mbps 1080p trailers - not good at all.

This is on XP with the files on a CIFS share. The Windows 7 beta had quite a few stutters on the 720p, perhaps hardware decode isn't enabled in the beta.

WMV-HD trailers are at WMV HD Content Showcase.

(The first one - "Adrenaline Rush" - is truly superb...)
 
You remember the days when the Apple lineup had variety?

iBooks were 12", 14" and the Powerbook 12",15", and 17"

I do not expect Apple to come out with a netbook and those who do are thoroughly out of touch with reality. Apple making a notebook for less then $500? Hahaha, thanks for the laugh.

What I do expect is Apple to be more flexible like they were years ago. I want to see a variety of sizes not just the 13.3" notebooks

They dropped the ball with the MBA they had the opportunity to bring back small laptops that are also light but they missed the mark. 13.3" ultraportable? No, thanks call me when it's 12" or less.

The iPod Touch I see so much potential in the product more so then a lot of others. I feel like they need to push it as a UMPC and that will fill the gap.

Who said under $500? I could see a stripped down Mac Mini (base model) for $399 (no optical drive) and a 11" MacBook Net for $599 (no touch screen, no optical drive, full Snow Leopard + iPhoto, Photobooth, iWeb, iTunes [no iMovie and iDVD]). Both Macs with Atom Duo processors. These would sell well at places like WalMart as well as Apple's own retail stores. Apple made iPods sell like candy, they could do the same with the Mac. Impulse buys is where it's at. The iPod Mini was genius and gave way to the Nano's market.
 
worlds best phone eh?

can I have video recording and copy/paste then please? like on my 3 year old piece of junk that I stopped using to use the iPhone?

worlds best at ignoring what we really want
 
Tim says that they are not going to play in the low end voice phone market. Thing is, iPhone is by no means a plain voice phone, but rather an elaborate smartphone. Am I reading into it too much, or is there some meaning behind it. :confused:

This is Apple playing the conservative card again. Remember when Apple was comparing its computers with the luxury automotive industry. Yet the only thing that separates Apple from Microsoft is its OS and other software. The hardware is all the same, anyone wanting to believe otherwise is fooling themselves into paying a high amount for the hardware, if they want to argue its all about the software then sure I will agree with them to that length.

The luxury automotive has custom engineered parts along with cutting edge engineering. Sorry a case made out of Al is just not worth the extra markup over something more functional.

Apple played this card previously, then they released the iBook/PolyCarb MB, eMac, Mac Mini, the iPod Shuffle and iPod Mini/Nano. Apple is a corporation as will release products to a specific ideal to make money. Believe it they will release some sort of NetBook a few years behind any other company, they did the same with the original iPod.

Count on it future low-end iPhone/iPod Touch and NetBook X.
 
I would really be surprised by a netbook considering that the iphone is pretty much that. Most people I know get a netbook to surf the web while traveling and check email.
 
worlds best phone eh?

can I have video recording and copy/paste then please? like on my 3 year old piece of junk that I stopped using to use the iPhone?

worlds best at ignoring what we really want

Apple can or could have released all the bells and whistles, including C&P to the 2G iPhone and 1G iPod Touch. The only reason why they do not is simple and they have used this formula with the original iPod, to milk its customer base for all its worth and to acquire media buzz, this is what made the iPod so successful to date.

If Apple introduced an iPhone and iPod Touch with everything you asked, then there would be little reason for anyone to upgrade they devices, this would not make Apple money. Remember that the iPod transitioned slowly to acquire Photo (iPod Photo) support and then Video (iPod Video) support because Apple believed, "no one wanted to see video on such a small screen and it was not the Apple way" yet you can now watch video and play games on the iPod Nano and iPod Touch with a screen only a fraction larger.

In my view, I take nothing seriously what Apple CEO/CFO state in any Q&A session because if you do you will consider them hypocrites.
 
I would really be surprised by a netbook considering that the iphone is pretty much that. Most people I know get a netbook to surf the web while traveling and check email.

I had a choice to either buy an iPod Touch, an iPhone with an overpriced voice/data plan or a NetBook. I settled on the NetBook because I have a mobile phone for voice and that is all I do with it. The NetBook replaced my 17" workhorse MBP and I can type up documents and stay mobile for ~8 hours.

Sure the NetBook cannot do HD video, then again why would I want to on a 10" screen that had an SD resolution. HD is best meant for larger screens 24" and above.

Besides what a joke, no Copy, Cut and Paste (CC&P) function. Sure WinXP has some issues, however for a NetBook I can live with it.
 
Apple can or could have released all the bells and whistles, including C&P to the 2G iPhone and 1G iPod Touch. The only reason why they do not is simple and they have used this formula with the original iPod, to milk its customer base for all its worth and to acquire media buzz, this is what made the iPod so successful to date.

If Apple introduced an iPhone and iPod Touch with everything you asked, then there would be little reason for anyone to upgrade they devices, this would not make Apple money. Remember that the iPod transitioned slowly to acquire Photo (iPod Photo) support and then Video (iPod Video) support because Apple believed, "no one wanted to see video on such a small screen and it was not the Apple way" yet you can now watch video and play games on the iPod Nano and iPod Touch with a screen only a fraction larger.

In my view, I take nothing seriously what Apple CEO/CFO state in any Q&A session because if you do you will consider them hypocrites.

Well put, I totally agree.
 
This is Apple playing the conservative card again. Remember when Apple was comparing its computers with the luxury automotive industry. Yet the only thing that separates Apple from Microsoft is its OS and other software. The hardware is all the same, anyone wanting to believe otherwise is fooling themselves into paying a high amount for the hardware, if they want to argue its all about the software then sure I will agree with them to that length.

The luxury automotive has custom engineered parts along with cutting edge engineering. Sorry a case made out of Al is just not worth the extra markup over something more functional.

Apple played this card previously, then they released the iBook/PolyCarb MB, eMac, Mac Mini, the iPod Shuffle and iPod Mini/Nano. Apple is a corporation as will release products to a specific ideal to make money.

Couldn't agree more.

I had an E46 M3 and currently looking at the e90. My unibody MBP is noooo M3.
 
Why didn't the guy/gal who was speaking to the Apple rep ask about the iMacs and most importantly the mac mini... argh!

That would have been very appropriate given the poor results apple reported for it's desktop computers. They noted that was partly because updated models had just been intro'd prior to the year ago qtr. Fine: then update them again and generate another sales spike, for Petes sake.
 
Seriously?

Do you people keep repeating this, just because you heard it someplace and couldn't think of a BETTER argument about a "lacking feature" in the iPhone??

I haven't ONCE cared that my iPhone lacked "copy/paste" functionality. The UI is very well thought out already, to avoid the NEED to do a lot of copying and pasting. For example, you can tap on a phone number that's in the text of an email and dial that number immediately, and/or add it to your contacts list.

Blackberry owners who keep bragging that they have the copy/paste feature? I rarely see them using it at all. On a phone, I think the entire concept is kind of difficult to maneuver through. It's not like you have a full size screen to look at, and a mouse that lets you easily drag to highlight exactly the portion of text you want to copy.

I give people the lack of MMS as an issue. (It'd be excusable if MMS messaging wasn't even allowed at all on the iPhone data plan or something. But the way AT&T supports it, it's about the most difficult to use thing imaginable.) All I can conclude is, AT&T thinks this will create an artificial barrier to people sending/receving a lot of MMS's and using up more bandwidth? (They get the same price for a plain old SMS that takes far less bandwidth.)


or copy/paste
 
Well, they want to wait and see.

I, for one, am going to buy a netbook in the next month, Apple or not.
I want a computer I can surf with, Skype, write technical papers (LaTex), weighs less than 1Kg and I can shake without worrying (i.e. with a SSD), since I use to run to work and I have to run with the computer in the backpack.

I don't do that with my MBP, simply too expensive/heavy.

I hear good things of the Dell mini 9 or the EEE 901, they are even hackintoshable (but I am not inclined in wasting time tinkering).
I don't care about Windows, I am happy with Ubuntu, I would be happier with OSX but -as it seems- you cannot have everything from life.

So, they can wait if they want to, they are losing market. As simple as that.
 
It looks like neither the iPhone Nano or netbook will be released this yera.

All we can guarantee to see this year is
-new Cinema displays to go along with the new 24-in
-either the elimination or update of the Mac Mini
 
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