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At the end of the day, I don't think Apple would have much to gain from going into the Netbook market. After all, it's already saturated with Asus EEEs and so on

I disagree.


They went into the mobile phone market despite Nokia and all the rest being in the market and they were successful. Its probably not on Apple's cards yet... although i've got a feeling they will release one later.
 
I think you're right. Apple will shrink down the Air and add Multitouch. But don't expect it to be cheap. Apple will push the portability and muti-touch angle, not the cost. I say it'll be the new $1000 portable in the line-up, once Apple phases out the plastic Macbooks.

if by multitouch you mean a tablet, having the macbook Air's internals I highly doubt it would cost $1000, some people would kill for one, and killing is usually more expensive than that:)
 
When Apple talks about 'netbooks' are they also talking about the slightly bigger iphone that many people having been hoping for?

I have no interest in a miniature laptop with keyboard running OS X , but would would be very interested in an ipod touch with a pocket-book sized screen running iPhone OS.
 
In other words, Netbooks running Windows 7 and other full systems are the future - netbooks are just smaller than ultra-portables, not a different kind of device.

By the way, the first thing I did after downloading the public Windows 7 Beta was to upgrade my eeePC901 from Win7 PDC (6801) to the public beta (7000).


When Apple talks about 'netbooks' are they also talking about the slightly bigger iphone that many people having been hoping for? I have no interest in a miniature laptop with keyboard running OS X , but would would be very interested in an ipod touch with a pocket-book sized screen running iPhone OS.

Those are typically called MIDs - Mobile Internet Devices.
 
YES!

iPhone nano rumors will finally, hopefully die down and No netbook!

Bring on the iPhone Pro already!

I'm already beginning to like this Tim Cook fella. :D
 
Why didn't the guy/gal who was speaking to the Apple rep ask about the iMacs and most importantly the mac mini... argh!
 
I'm so glad to hear that Apple's not going to pursue a lower end iPhone or some cheap netbook. Hopefully all those people hoping this would happen will stop being so vocal about it now.
 
Its not that its even vital, all phones can do it, and they wont even give an explanation why they wont put it in there. If Steve jobs came and said hey we aren't putting it in for (insert good reason here). that would be fine, but it seems like things are falling on deaf ears.

check this out.
if Apple gave a damn about MMS they'd make an app for it or implement it in SMS. Since it looks like it's not some heresy, forbidden by the SDK, Portugal's Vodafone made an App. It's up to the telecoms. In most countries you get a link and a password via sms that allows you to view your mms and you can send one via mail to a cellphone. If Apple didn't want MMS, this wouldn't be available, IMO.
 
I completely agree with apple. Apart from that, I would hate them to start making cheap netbooks as I feel they would lose the image of providing quality, well designed products.

agree. not out of discrimination but usually those who get netbooks only care about the price. they don't look into what is lacking in the product and why oh why is it this cheap compared to notebooks. if apple starts to make such a thingy, surely the initial sell is gonna be "huge" considering the amount of friends around me who actually have always wanted a mac just because they couldn't afford one.

then? when they come to realisation that a netbook≠notebook, those people will be the most likely kind to start bitching about and aspersing apple. just no no no please! apple is not dell and should never be dell. it's certainly a good thing to widen the customer base but nothing should compromise the product quality of apple's range.

surely the economy's bad at the moment, but we don't see ferrari start making compact cars to compete with nissan. as long as ferrari keeps making quality cars, no matter how bad the economy is outside, i believe there are still lots of people willing to spend for quality product. same theory applies onto apple. let's see how apple's next trade report looks like!
 
Apple won't make a netbook since they wouldn't dare to compete with price.

Apple are a low selling/high profit company. Netbooks are by their nature aimed at people who are looking for something afforable. Either Apple cut their profits on it substantially or build a lower quality (compared to everything else Apple) product - neither of which Apple will ever do.

People who compare the iPhone to a netbook are deluded. The netbook is a full computer squishified...an iPhone is not.
 
best phone available: how about Apple puts in features that most top tier phones have had for years. Typical Apple arrogance which doesn't tell the truth.

Cramped screens? Why are you pushing a mobile phone used for web browsing then? (which btw is totally annoying - I would rather use a netbook anyday).

When Apple gets desperate enough they will launch more affordable things - right now things just aren't bad enough. Wait till far more Americans have lost their jobs (and I mean a lot more) and this starts to echo worldwide on big scale. End of this year and by mid 2010 its going to be a much different story.

Then to maintain their size they will need more affordable products. Staying elitist will just make the company smaller (like Ferrari is a small company). I am not sure if Apple wants to become smaller now that it has had the taste of selling so well to the masses.
 
Apple won't make a netbook since they wouldn't dare to compete with price.

Apple are a low selling/high profit company. Netbooks are by their nature aimed at people who are looking for something afforable. Either Apple cut their profits on it substantially or build a lower quality (compared to everything else Apple) product - neither of which Apple will ever do.

People who compare the iPhone to a netbook are deluded. The netbook is a full computer squishified...an iPhone is not.

No, the idea of a Netbook isn't that it is affordable, the idea is that it is very small. Being very small means compromises that Apple didn't want to make with the MacBook Air (which is why suggesting that the MacBook Air is a Netbook is ridiculous). Current Netbook manufacturers have made compromises that Apple wouldn't want to make at all.

That doesn't mean Apple couldn't set the target slightly different, where usability is not quite the same as with a MacBook, but much better than with current Netbooks, with a device that is a lot smaller and lighter than a MacBook or MacBook Air. And less size + power should translate to a lower price than a MacBook, even if Apple has no intention to compete with cheap Netbooks.
 
I'm so glad to hear that Apple's not going to pursue a lower end iPhone or some cheap netbook. Hopefully all those people hoping this would happen will stop being so vocal about it now.

Apple should have never entered the low cost iPod market with the iPod Mini, what a mistake. In such a great economy, why should a company like Apple pursue lower costing goods? After all everyone needs a 17" MacBook Pro fully loaded to surf Facebook and check email. There's clearly no market for an Apple Netbook with such a terrible demand for Netbooks.

"But while Apple's notebooks were hot sellers last year, average notebook prices are falling fast as the economy worsens. Strong sales of Acer's Aspire One--available for as little as $320 on Amazon.com (nasdaq: AMZN - news - people )--helped the Taiwanese computer company hustle past Apple to grab fourth place in the PC market during the last quarter of 2008, according to Gartner." -Forbes
 
Tim says that they are not going to play in the low end voice phone market. Thing is, iPhone is by no means a plain voice phone, but rather an elaborate smartphone. Am I reading into it too much, or is there some meaning behind it. :confused:

No, I think it an odd enough word choice that they have something up their sleeves - can you say "video phone?"
That's they're next step.
Honestly, who says "voice phone??"
 
C'mon Apple, gimme a low cost 12" notebook. It doesn't need to be a netbook...:eek:

Screw that. I want a 12" MBP! Give me that. Willing to pay full price of 15.4" MBP. Just want those features. Dedicated graphics. 4 GB RAM or more. And portability of 12" means can work on it in an airplane seat. Charge $1999 and they would sell millions. A lot of people want a 12" MBP. Why cannot Apple see that?
 
"[...] the products are based on hardware that's much less powerful [...]. We don't think that people are going to be pleased with those type of products."

Hopefully that means the rumors about Atom/Ion mean that it is headed for the AppleTV and that the MacMini update will get the same processor & Nvidia chip as the Macbooks and FW800. (Better still would be FW3200 with display output over FW, across all Macs.)

As for the 'netbooks' & 'tablets', I have to say I don't see myself ever getting one. All that I'd personally be interested in that genre is to see handwriting recognition and the Finder (& maybe the Desktop) added to the iphone / itouch as apps and to see touch screen input added to all the MacBooks, iMacs, & Cinema Displays. And at least the 13" macbook with a screen that could flip all the way around to the back side for use in a 'tablet' mode.

Other than that wish list, the updated white Macbook announced today with Nvidia & FW pretty much covers what I might look at in those categories.

Whatever they do, I sure hope they keep the screen size, external dimensions, weight, and no physical keyboard of the iphone exactly as is. For me it is a perfect form factor for a pocket device. Changing it would be like when Coke tried to create New Coke back in the 80's.
 
Screw that. I want a 12" MBP! Give me that. Willing to pay full price of 15.4" MBP. Just want those features. Dedicated graphics. 4 GB RAM or more. And portability of 12" means can work on it in an airplane seat. Charge $1999 and they would sell millions. A lot of people want a 12" MBP. Why cannot Apple see that?

I just require two things: 12" screen, and optical drive. Basically give me a 12" MB and I'm happy.:cool:
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13512_3-10145482-23.html?tag=mncol



The point of the article is that the "new" netbooks are slightly larger (10"-11" screen) full function notebooks, not the limited devices like the early netbooks.

In other words, Netbooks running Windows 7 and other full systems are the future - netbooks are just smaller than ultra-portables, not a different kind of device.

As I said in another thread recently, I'd expect Apple's "netbook" to be an 11" MacBook Air, not an eeePC clone.

I read this article as saying that the ARM-based and 7" original eeePC netbooks are dead, not the current crop. Note the quote: "They wouldn't run Windows XP with acceptable performance, never mind Windows Vista." My aspire one runs XP perfectly fine for my use, and probably day-to-day use.
 
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