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Apple Answers Questions About Low-end iPhone and Mac Netbooks

Bah, I was just talking about netbooks the other day with a friend saying I wish Apple would come out with one.

I want a 10" netbook to take out with me on multi day photography excursions - something small, light, that I can chuck in the bag but that will allow me to backup my cards at the end of the day. A 10" screen would also be more than enough for me to cull the junk.
 
Gee, what a surprise.

It's almost as If I've repeated til I'm blue in the face the complete untenability of an iPhone Nano OR a tablet.

Of course nobody pays any attention to the marketing aspect (the only part that makes any difference at all), and simply fantasizes about what they want, then create fictional rumors.

Then people like arn blow them way out of proportion by giving headline attention to crap, something clearly not even close to true. A Rumor is something that might be true, not something thats definitely not true by all measurable judgement.

Then thousands of morons start saying things like, "where is my iPhone nano!?!?!?"

Yep, this is just one big i told you so.
 
wonderbread57 said:
I think iPhone nano is still possible. I never considered an iPhone nano to be a low cost version of the iPhone but rather an equal or more expensive version since it should have all the same features but with reduced microphone and speaker space (more just the screen area). So, Cook is dismissing a low cost iphone but not dismissing iphone nano... ya?
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Surely the screen would have to be substantially reduced and then what's the point of having an iPhone?
 
preservative said:
Lots of people use a computer for the odd email and surfing the web. A netbook is just fine for them and they use much less power. Are cheaper etc. They do not need quad core CPU with 4g of ram.
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Um, if they run full OSX, as in Leopard > Snow Leopard, then yes they sure as hell do.

As it is Leopard barely runs with less than 2 Gigs of ram and a core2duo. Snow leopard will run even worse. We're in the age now where the "current" software+hardware are the only configuration that will run smoothly.

ie: Leopard has been out since Oct 07 and the first laptops to run it properly, as designed, are the aluminum macbooks/pro with Nvidia 9400 and up. All previous out of the box laptop configurations struggle to keep up. Fans go crazy, things melt, batteries burn out in record time,...
 
lftrghtparadigm said:
Um, if they run full OSX, as in Leopard > Snow Leopard, then yes they sure as hell do.

As it is Leopard barely runs with less than 2 Gigs of ram and a core2duo. Snow leopard will run even worse. We're in the age now where the "current" software+hardware are the only configuration that will run smoothly.

ie: Leopard has been out since Oct 07 and the first laptops to run it properly, as designed, are the aluminum macbooks/pro with Nvidia 9400 and up. All previous out of the box laptop configurations struggle to keep up. Fans go crazy, things melt, batteries burn out in record time,...
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youtube netbook and osx

Windows runs just fine on a netbook and OSX doesn't? Strange? Windows sucks...
 
preservative said:
youtube netbook and osx

Windows runs just fine on a netbook and OSX doesn't? Strange? Windows sucks...
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All the netbook hackintosh folks seem to report that the MSI Wind and Dell Mini 9 run OS X just fine (among many other models, but these are the most compatible out of the box).
 
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levitynyc said:
or copy/paste
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copy/paste is the new right-click.
 
Having used a few of the netbooks, they can be useful but over time get really irritating to use for anything other than casual browsing of the web. What I'd rather see is an Atom-powered (or similar chip) iPod Touch mutant, say with a 8 or 9" screen, and perhaps an extended version of the Touch/iPhone OSX version.

Wait, that sounds like a modern Newton! :D

Still, for me personally that would be an extremely useful companion to my MBP.
 
Loge said:
Just because it is not WYSIWYG does not mean it is stuck in the 70s.

The point of LaTeX is that it lets the computer do the typesetting for you, precisely because most scientists and engineers are not typesetters.
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More to the point, LaTeX does typesetting, not word processing. If you don't know the difference between typesetting and word processing, you'll use a word processor. If you know the difference, you'll use LaTeX.
 
lftrghtparadigm said:
As it is Leopard barely runs with less than 2 Gigs of ram and a core2duo. Snow leopard will run even worse. We're in the age now where the "current" software+hardware are the only configuration that will run smoothly.

ie: Leopard has been out since Oct 07 and the first laptops to run it properly, as designed, are the aluminum macbooks/pro with Nvidia 9400 and up. All previous out of the box laptop configurations struggle to keep up. Fans go crazy, things melt, batteries burn out in record time,...
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You must be using a different Leopard than I am.
And some Windows experiences don't apply to Macs.
 
preservative said:
I've an iphone, have a Mac Pro and had a Macbook. I think apple should sell the OS! I'm not sure I'll buy another.

The Dell mini 10 has an HDMI and will be on sale in Feb so I hear. It must either have a GN40 chipset or nvidia 9300. No VGA!!

See for yourself!

http://blog.gadgetlite.com/nggallery/post/gallery-dell-inspiron-mini-10/page/624/
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Thanks for the link. Cool Netbook, but sorry, that's NOT going to come in at $349... :eek:

polaris20 said:
Having used a few of the netbooks, they can be useful but over time get really irritating to use for anything other than casual browsing of the web. What I'd rather see is an Atom-powered (or similar chip) iPod Touch mutant, say with a 8 or 9" screen, and perhaps an extended version of the Touch/iPhone OSX version.

Wait, that sounds like a modern Newton! :D

Still, for me personally that would be an extremely useful companion to my MBP.
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Exactly!!! :D
 
preservative said:
youtube netbook and osx

Windows runs just fine on a netbook and OSX doesn't? Strange? Windows sucks...
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Windows 7 is specifically optimized for netbooks - it runs on 512 MiB and 16 GB disk. It runs really well on 2 GiB and 64 GB (my eeePC).

I would expect that part of the reason Snow Leopard is on a diet is for netbooks - and that probably will predict the release date of Apple's netbook.

(or 10" MacBook Air - whatever you want to call it)
 
benspratling said:
Dude, the iPhone has MULTITOUCH.
What Windows have you been smoking lately?
[Edit] or that Apple actually sells hardware...
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If a HP desktop can do Touch and Multi-Touch on a Windows OS there is nothing stopping a hardware or software developer to implement the same technology on a mobile device.

Touch screen can be done on Leopard and this was demonstrated at MWSF '09.

You are kidding yourself.
 
rtdunham said:
That would have been very appropriate given the poor results apple reported for it's desktop computers. They noted that was partly because updated models had just been intro'd prior to the year ago qtr. Fine: then update them again and generate another sales spike, for Petes sake.
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It breaks my heart to see so few people talking about this, instead clamoring for worthless netbooks or even lower cost Macbooks (forget the utterly nonsensical iPhone nano -- you guys are bordering on brain damage). I'm typing this on the low end aluminum unibody Macbook. It's amazing. For those wanting a cheaper Macbook, save up your money or borrow what you need to get the low end unibody Macbook. It stays clean and is durable as hell. The multi-touch trackpad also makes everything easier.

Except I don't need the mobility or the extra screen. I bought it because I needed a computer and felt it would have good resale value when the Mini was updated, but the Mini is not being updated. Does anyone at Apple know what Moore's Law is? It means that the Mini should cost half as much this long after its last update. Tim Cook apparently doesn't have a clue, because he said multiple times that every single line is excellent and that, when Apple's wrong, they have the ability to acknowledge it. Wrong on both accounts.
 
lftrghtparadigm said:
Um, if they run full OSX, as in Leopard > Snow Leopard, then yes they sure as hell do.

As it is Leopard barely runs with less than 2 Gigs of ram and a core2duo. Snow leopard will run even worse. We're in the age now where the "current" software+hardware are the only configuration that will run smoothly.

ie: Leopard has been out since Oct 07 and the first laptops to run it properly, as designed, are the aluminum macbooks/pro with Nvidia 9400 and up. All previous out of the box laptop configurations struggle to keep up. Fans go crazy, things melt, batteries burn out in record time,...
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Leopard runs very well on a dual G4 PowerMac and 12" PB 1.33Ghz. While "very well" may seem vague to you, so is "barely runs" that you say.

Furthermore, what insider information do you have that Snow Leopard will "run even worse"? With OpenCL and other fine tuning, I find that very, very hard to believe.
 
Multi-touch is native in Windows 7

!¡ V ¡! said:
If a HP desktop can do Touch and Multi-Touch on a Windows OS there is nothing stopping a hardware or software developer to implement the same technology on a mobile device.

Touch screen can be done on Leopard and this was demonstrated at MWSF '09.

You are kidding yourself.
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Win7 multi-touch demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqDQ0wUcSPQ

Microsoft Highlights First Unique Windows 7 Feature: Pervasive Multi-Touch

Microsoft on Tuesday publicly demonstrated Windows 7 for the first time, showing off a new OS feature that will allow users of the upcoming system to control touch screen-based PCs with their fingers.

A simplified version of this feature actually exists in Windows Vista today, but Windows 7 will take this functionality to the next level by providing multi-touch capabilities that will work everywhere in the system.​
 
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