Apple as a Wireless Provider?

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    While this falls more in line with speculation than actual rumor, Forbes mentions the possibility of Apple launching its own wireless network to promote the upcoming Motorola iTunes-enabled cellular phone.

    Forbes comments how other companies have recently been able to enter the mobile market without a significant outlay of money by becoming a "mobile virtual network operator" or MVNO. The advantage is that it allows companies to deploy a mobile network but utilize existing infrastructure. Disney, ESPN and Earthlink are among companies who have launched their own mobile networks.

    This would also circumvent roadblocks in having to work with individual wireless carriers.

    The most recent rumors have pinpointed Cingular as the likely provider for Motorola's iTunes enabled cell phone.
  2. realityisterror macrumors 65816


    Aug 30, 2003
    Snellville, GA
    It shall never happen... maybe someday it'll be like a nationwide WiFi/cell network... but Apple isn't really the one to do that...

    I'm thinking the iTunes phone, if and when it is released, will come through Cingular or Verizon... quite possibly Cingular, since that's where analysts and insiders are pointing...

  3. mlrproducts macrumors 6502

    Apr 18, 2004
    This won't happen even though it would be AWESOME!
  4. amac4me macrumors 65816


    Apr 26, 2005
    if this were to happen, all i would have to say is WHOA :eek:
  5. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    w00t, e•World Phone Edition! Gah, let's hope not. .Mac seems to be about as complicated as Apple can get with an online service without losing it completely.
  6. Surreal macrumors 6502a

    Jun 18, 2004
    is there really that much money to be made in this arena? i know that it would push hardware..but not apple's it would hardly be a "break even to get ahead" situation ala itunes music store.
  7. pontecorvo macrumors newbie

    May 11, 2005
    Like Disney and ESPN are? :rolleyes:
  8. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    If it's becoming common for "any old company" to piggyback off of existing systems, then I guess anything's possible. But doubtful.

    Still, not nearly AS doubtful as MacOSRumors' tidbit a while back about Apple becoming a wireless carrier by putting up cell towers at all their retail stores :eek:
  9. ham_man macrumors 68020


    Jan 21, 2005
    If Apple wants to sell a large number of phones, they will do it through one of the existing providers (Cingular, Verizon, etc.). People will be more likely to buy an iTunes phone if there is no hassle of switching providers...
  10. pontecorvo macrumors newbie

    May 11, 2005
    First of all, why won't it happen? Second of all, why would it be "AWESOME!"?
  11. technocoy macrumors 6502a


    Sep 4, 2002
    Raleigh, NC
    if apple does this..

    you can bet the motorola would just be a hold-over for a wholly apple designed iPhone.

    here's to wishing....
  12. snkTab macrumors 6502a


    Nov 13, 2004
    Cincinnati, OH
    I figure it'll be more expensive and have less customer service.
  13. evilernie macrumors 6502


    Jan 6, 2005

    If it does happen I hope they don't hook up with the SUCKIEST provider there is, which of course is Cingular.
  14. Flying Llama macrumors 6502a

    Flying Llama

    Aug 4, 2004
    Los Angeles
    Wow, wonder what their plans would be like! :eek:
    But apple style as a wireless provider? Integration with current apple products? That would be quite nice. :)
    I doubt this will happen, though why would it be on page 1... :confused:

    llama :cool:
  15. xli_ne macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2005
    Center of the Nation
    I would put my money on Cingular. Our apple rep at compusa, last time i checked, had his work cell phone through at&t that apple gave to him and paid the bill for. Since Cingular now owns them, I have no doubt in my mind that it will be cingular.
  16. jinzo012 macrumors member

    Jun 2, 2005
    Maybe they'll send a couple relay systems up into orbit with STS-114 (One-Fourteen)- Return to flight.
    probably not though
  17. Thanatoast macrumors 65816


    Dec 3, 2002
    Hey, if Apple provided a capable pda-phone, and if it happened to be integrated with their ipod products, I wouldn't complain. Imagine having an apple pda (ha!!) / cellphone (i like the samsung i500, i550) with a 20 gig harddrive full of music, games, videos, productivity software, camera, universal remote, etc, etc.

    Bow down before the uber-convergence device!
  18. macnews macrumors 6502a


    May 12, 2003
    I don't think this will happen and doubt it would be awesome. The equivilant would be Apple ONLY selling iPods through HP, Dell, etc. It would still be an iPod and would be branded much like the HP iPod but why? Unlike other branded iPods, cell phones are being practically given away.

    There is more money to be made by having more phones with iTunes service and finding a way to split revenue with the major exisiting cell phone providers. Of course the major problem here is the providers tend to be very greedy and like the idea of charging an arm and a leg for ring tones.
  19. abrooks macrumors 6502a

    Sep 18, 2004
    London, UK
    We have to remember that Forbes was one of the first to report and confirm the Intel switch, none of us believed it or wanted to believe it but they news sources were right, I think we should think some more before we cast this away.
  20. moosecat macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2002

    It may be more than speculation. Engadget claims that "one of [its] own reliable sources" says that "Apple is actually already working on this."

    I don't know Engadget's reliability when it comes to Mac rumors, but it's generally a reliable and trustworthy site.
  21. Le Big Mac macrumors 68030

    Le Big Mac

    Jan 7, 2003
    Washington, DC
    There's plenty of money to be lost creating the infrastructure. If they wanted to do anything, it would be like Virgin does--resell capacity on another network, say Cingular, and brand it "Apple". I doubt it would make sense profit-wise, but at least it has a chance, unlike creating their own network.
  22. MaCaDDiCT21 macrumors member


    Oct 10, 2004
    Chandler, AZ
    I can see microsoft doing something like this, but not Apple. Also, one phone isnt really much of a base for Apple to launch a service. I just dont see it happening...
  23. Stella macrumors G3


    Apr 21, 2003
    Waste of time - especially since it'll probably be a usa only market, which is far less prosperous than in Europe.

    Any new entry needs to compete on price - get the price of ownership down - especially in Canada - the "system access fee" crap. Virgin has gotten rid of this on its service - a few more providers doing this will hopefully get Fido, Rogers et al to remove the fee completely to remain competitive.

    Apple should really stick to what it does best.

    Apple needs some kind of novelty factor to succeed - and I just don't think that iTunes would be it.
  24. Mtn Tamale macrumors member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Denver, CO
    T-Mobile is for sale

    Although I don't see it happening. T-Mobile is profitable and experiencing 30% year over year growth right now. DT has said it is for sale. Anticipated price is $20 Billion. They need $5 Billion in upgrades over the next 5 years according to Businessweek which will keep pace with the advances in wireless broadband. That would be a visionary move by Apple.

    A national wireless broadband data network for them to do whatever they wanted.....oooooooh.
  25. joeconvert macrumors 6502

    Nov 18, 2003
    B/c it came from a credible source (Forbes) known for its insight in the business world.

    I agree, however, that it is not likely to happen. The author in question was clearly under pressure ot meet a deadline with an insightful column.

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