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Apple Asks Developers to Put 'Sign In With Apple' Above Other Sign-in Options

69Mustang said:
Doubt it. People tend to be creatures of habit. They continue to do what they've always done. If they sign in with their FB creds, they'll continue to sign in with their FB cred because they don't have to do anything different. It should be obvious the privacy argument isn't compelling with the majority of that crowd because, well FB.
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Similar to iPhone when it was introduced, Apple is just looking for a piece of the pie. Once users experience it is a better option then the initial goal has succeeded. People can and do change ;)
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haleyp said:
Another feature to lock you into their ecosystem.
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Same can be said for coffee shops, grocery stores, online retailers, employers, etc.

I see no problem giving the choice, forcing is another problem.
 
code-m said:
Don’t underestimate being in favour with big tech companies, I get this feeling that other companies will now pay web developers to place their option above all else. Great for developers to make extra cash.
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I’m in favor of big tech companies that I know won’t use my data for their benefit.
 
BootsWalking said:
I'm a big fan of 'Sign in with Apple" but making it mandatory for developers who offer existing third-party sign-in options and now requesting they put Apple's sign-in above those others is only inviting further antitrust scrutiny.
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The article which is only a few paragraphs literarily says it's 'not' mandatory and just guidelines. If your app gets rejected it would need to be on more than just that, otherwise if just that, then then would mean it is mandatory which they would have to note. But if you have other minor issues in the app, apple may potentially overlook those a little more for apps that do otherwise follow their guidelines.
 
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Wait a week before the competition updates their manuals to “please put me on top of the others” ;)
 
Sasparilla said:
There's been alot of spilled latte's at the headquarters over at Facebook and Google today.

I love this idea - however with the government regulators getting pressure to do "stuff" (and the government being very affected by paid lobbyists from Google and Facebook) Apple should be very cautious about stuff like this order thing.
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I don’t think Apple has anything to worry about. This is a free service that doesn’t make Apple a single penny (and would actually cost them money to run).

There’s a big difference between a service that’s simply designed to protect your privacy and something like a browser, which is your actual gateway to the Internet (for the inevitable Microsoft comparisons).
 
haleyp said:
Another feature to lock you into their ecosystem.
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If Apple told developers they weren’t allowed to sign in with Facebook or Google then I would agree with you. Those options still exist and Apple is “recommending” to put Apple at the top of the list.
 
code-m said:
Similar to iPhone when it was introduced, Apple is just looking for a piece of the pie. Once users experience it is a better option then the initial goal has succeeded. People can and do change ;)
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That's not similar at all. There were tangible benefits to using the iPhone vs non-smartphones. Switching sign-in methods doesn't provide tangible benefits to the people I'm referencing. It's just another option to use for sign-in. A difference without a perceptible distinction. It's either click this button, or that button, or that other button. There's nothing new to experience.
 
spazzcat said:
Once this rolls out, I will most like not use your app if you don't offer this as an option.
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Exactly.
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realtuner said:
I could probably count on one hand the number of times I ever saw someone using OpenID. This new Apple service will likely pass OpenID for adoption the first week it's available.
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First hour.
 
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TechRemarker said:
The article which is only a few paragraphs literarily says it's 'not' mandatory and just guidelines. If your app gets rejected it would need to be on more than just that, otherwise if just that, then then would mean it is mandatory which they would have to note. But if you have other minor issues in the app, apple may potentially overlook those a little more for apps that do otherwise follow their guidelines.
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Only the placement of Apple's Sign-In above others is optional. Including Apple Sign-In is mandatory for all apps that provide other third-party sign-in options. This was covered at WWDC.
 
69Mustang said:
That's not similar at all. There were tangible benefits to using the iPhone vs non-smartphones. Switching sign-in methods doesn't provide tangible benefits to the people I'm referencing. It's just another option to use for sign-in. A difference without a perceptible distinction. It's either click this button, or that button, or that other button. There's nothing new to experience.
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You have to take it into context, sure smartphones today are everywhere and people take them for granted, just like 10+ years ago, there were PDA, Windows CE, etc and iPhone brought in a Apple's twist on things. Same thing with "Sign-in" where Apple is promoting privacy, in this day and age, pushing buttons/links is how people interact online.
 
As long as it's 'asking' and 'suggesting' not 'requiring' I see no reason to get all upset over it, to me it's great.

personally I'd spend money on Apps that don't even have the other guys, as there are trackers embedded in just the login prompt even if you don't use it.
 
This is not going to go down well... some in the industry have already said this ‘suggestion’ along with forcing apps to use Apple’s log in option if they offer other third party ones, is like poking the competition commission groups with a pointy stick....... better not push the EU Apple, the idea of the login is good, but pushing it above anyone else is not..
 
I don’t think I get why this is suddenly such a big deal. It also isn’t anything new, the same guideline exists for Apple Pay. That said, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen other payment options “suggest” you put theirs first in a list as well.

If the issue is because of the requirement then okay? But even then it’s more logical to have at the top. You can assume a user is using an Apple device and an Apple ID quicker than you can assume the same for a google Or Facebook account. The web is a different story though
 
mcfrazieriv said:
Good grief. The big bully telling you what you can and can't do. Oh wait, that's okay, it's Apple.
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Yes, it's Apple, the company that sets the rules for their own store. How draconian.
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BootsWalking said:
I'm a big fan of 'Sign in with Apple" but making it mandatory for developers who offer existing third-party sign-in options and now requesting they put Apple's sign-in above those others is only inviting further antitrust scrutiny.
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Seems to be a common misconception that any time a company creates a rule, it raises antitrust issues.

Time to read up on antitrust law people, even if it's wikipedia.
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apolloa said:
This is not going to go down well... some in the industry have already said this ‘suggestion’ along with forcing apps to use Apple’s log in option if they offer other third party ones, is like poking the competition commission groups with a pointy stick....... better not push the EU Apple, the idea of the login is good, but pushing it above anyone else is not..
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Google "antitrust law" and educate yourself.
 
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Apple doesn't need to mandate this. Users will be sketched out by apps that don't put it first :p
(not really sure if that's true, but I would be)
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realtuner said:
If Apple told developers they weren’t allowed to sign in with Facebook or Google then I would agree with you. Those options still exist and Apple is “recommending” to put Apple at the top of the list.
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He means encouraging users to sign in with Apple. They won't think much of it and will do it. Then they can never use those accounts again if they leave the ecosystem, unless Apple allows users to disable 2FA then still log in from non-Apple devices. I think it's lawsuit-worthy if they don't allow that.
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ke-iron said:
I have never heard about open ID in my life
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I've never heard of it, and I don't even want to know.
 
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