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The people who blame Apple for a dead device after jailing breaking are the ones who shouldn't JB in the first place.

People JB to make the device a more useful device. Kind of like when people used ( still do ) buy DVD players and then apply a Region Free fix to it.

While I am not a jailbreak hater (do as you please:), I am wondering why people buy a product that is not perfect for them and then change it.

My point is that if it works fine, but if it doesn't work don't go and blame Apple or use their services for FREE to restore your messed up device.

I have been able to help people restore several JB ipods (kids in school).
Most of these were about eye candy or screen looks, wallpapers.
Something I don't need, but to each her/his own.

I liken JB to somebody buying a car and then going under the hood and change things in the way the motor works, so they can add boosters, compression changers, modify valves and ignition features or similar stuff.

When it then croaks out they blame the car manufacturer.

Always blaming somebody else seems to be the norm a lot these days.

Luckily JB people can restore their devices. If that was not possible JB would not be happening.

Maybe Apple should be looking into blocking restoring? I am sure they can come up with a way that JB would be recognized.
 
I have been able to help people restore several JB ipods (kids in school).
Most of these were about eye candy or screen looks, wallpapers.
Something I don't need, but to each her/his own.

here's a tip, kids are generally idiots.

now, for the rest of us, if there exists a generally easy way to add functionality to your device why wouldn't you do it? There are plenty of legitimately good additions to functionality that you can only get via jailbreaking. painting it as something that kids do to make their phone as ugly as possible is pretty shortsighted.
 
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Thunderhawks said:
Me too.

I wish Apple wasn't so anti-jailbreaking. When I had an iPhone 3G jailbreaking was almost a requirement so I could get a lot of features I needed.

Apple is just trying to protect the user experience for their product.

Yes, it is ours to use and do with whatever we want once paid for, but.........
Every jailbroken iphone user will complain and tell somebody that their phone always freezes up or isn't working right.

They are not going to say in most cases it freezes, because I jail broke it!

That info makes it look as if it is Apples fault that things don't work.

You have to be a bit more technically savvy than the average Joe to have a reliable jailbroken phone, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. Mine honestly has not really had any problems (though I do it mostly for tethering, FaceTime over 3G, and sbsettings). Those of us who are capable of having a reliably running system even with root access should be able to have it.

It's kinda like... An automatic vs manual transmission I guess. Most people (in this country anyway) absolutely should not be driving stick... Many people I know use ridiculous revs to get going, never (or don't know how to) rev match their downshifts, use the clutch as a brake, and sometimes even use the clutch to hold the car on a hill. These people will have premature failure of their clutches. Doesn't mean the automatic is superior or even more reliable. It just means it requires less user responsibility. Those of us who can drive stick properly will almost never be willing to give up the experience. Likewise for those of us who jailbreak and give a thought to what we install on our phones.
 
Me too.

I wish Apple wasn't so anti-jailbreaking. When I had an iPhone 3G jailbreaking was almost a requirement so I could get a lot of features I needed.
hell, jailbreaking is where apple gets all their ideas for upgrades! they shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them (ideas)
 
Apple would be a much better company if they didn't try to control every aspect of what the consumer tries to do with their product. It's my iPod, if I want a different theme than why should Apple care?
 
That's it. Never buying a Toyota!

Not that I was going to. Not a big fan of Toyota, Scion or Lexus.
 
Macintosh. The reason that 2012 is gonna be just like 1984 :(

I would love it if someone with the know-how were to alter the video of that famous ad to make Steve Jobs' face and voice the one on the screen. Who knows, someone may have already done it!
 
While I am not a jailbreak hater (do as you please:), I am wondering why people buy a product that is not perfect for them and then change it.
I have never personally seen any product in any genre or marketplace that was perfect for me. Esp socks, WTF, they can't make socks for people that wear size 15 shoes?
 
I have never personally seen any product in any genre or marketplace that was perfect for me. Esp socks, WTF, they can't make socks for people that wear size 15 shoes?

Its not so much about being perfect as much as it is getting something and than molding it to your preferences. Look at aftermarket car and computer parts. Its always nice to keep your technology evolving. With my EVO I am constantly changing ROM's because its fun to have a new GUI. I finally found one that I absolutely love.
 
Obedience is freedom.

jobs-1984.jpg
 
They're welcome to each other.

Why anyone would want to brand their phone with a Toyota Theme is beyond me, Ferrari, Aston Martin maybe but Toyota lol

Yeah, only trashy Walmart types drive Toyotas.

Would you pass me the the Grey Poupon?
 
Is there ipod connectors in their cars?
Maybe apple will say, no you can't do that anymore, thanks for playing...
 
Apple wasn't the first to break from the Beige box syndrome. ;) In fact, I think I know where they got the idea for the Blue G3 case :

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LOL

I knew when I wrote that that someone would post some obscure reference to another computer that wasn't beige.

It doesn't matter. Apple made it their business model. It wasn't some obscure item in the product line next to the beige boxes they sold too. The beige boxes were gone.
 
Its not so much about being perfect as much as it is getting something and than molding it to your preferences. Look at aftermarket car and computer parts. Its always nice to keep your technology evolving. With my EVO I am constantly changing ROM's because its fun to have a new GUI. I finally found one that I absolutely love.
I don't write the crazy, I just comment on it.
 
It doesn't matter. Apple made it their business model. It wasn't some obscure item in the product line next to the beige boxes they sold too. The beige boxes were gone.

I think the only beige boxes SGI ever made were the 68k iris boxes, and that was back in the 80s - I think in 91 they started making them black, red, blue, whatever color floated their boat xD

You could say Steve Jobs beat them to the punch with the black NeXT cubes if you wish, but many other companies had made unusual color/shape computers back in the day. I don't think beige was actually that popular a color back in the days of mainframes and terminals.

The translucent PowerMac G3 was a beautiful little machine, but it replaced the PowerMac G3.. whoo! lol :D

That said, I think Apple did some hugely daring design moves back in the late 90s/early 2000's, something they haven't really done since the white iBook. The TiBook was pretty nifty.. man.. I'd love to see them go back to making screens that had almost no bezel and were that thin o_O
 
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