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macidiot said:
<snip> And frankly, like it or not, the entire world is dependent on the American economy. Americans have the most wealth. But we also work harder and put in longer hours than anyone else to get that wealth. That's not being jingoistic, its reality.<snip>

I don't want to get political or economical for once, so I won't. But I do want to point out that there are other world views that suggest that happiness is more important than money.

Sadly we in Canada work about the same work year as those in the US. Although I am not sure about hours/week I'm pretty sure that holidays/vacations are relatively on par.

I personally would prefer vacation and holiday schedules on par with a number of European countries, than the money of the United States. It would give me more time to spend with my wife after I get married next summer and more time to devote to a family in the future. A man can dream can't he?

David :cool:

PS - Sorry madiciot for my part in the sarcasmo wars of this thread. In my defense I did think your comments were sort of anti-everyone-but-the-US, but if they were not then I am sorry. I think I was more excited to talk about silly Canadian imagery than to make fun of you, but I failed to resist the temptaton to do so. My apologies dude! Peace.
 
I think that the Canadians and US have a similar relationship as the Aussies and us Kiwis. The US and Aussies because of their comparative size usually come across as "brash" and "arrogant" although they are not always right and dont always win. Us Kiwis and the Canadians on the other hand tend to be more friendly and welcomeing to others and on a worldly scale come across as the friendlier under dog as well as "beating" our bigger arrogant neighbours in various sporting activities from time to time. The Aussies and US like to think that "they are the world" where as the Canadians and Kiwis know that "we are ALL just part of it"
Cheers
winmacguy
 
Super Dave said:
I don't want to get political or economical for once, so I won't. But I do want to point out that there are other world views that suggest that happiness is more important than money.

Sadly we in Canada work about the same work year as those in the US. Although I am not sure about hours/week I'm pretty sure that holidays/vacations are relatively on par.

I personally would prefer vacation and holiday schedules on par with a number of European countries, than the money of the United States. It would give me more time to spend with my wife after I get married next summer and more time to devote to a family in the future. A man can dream can't he?

David :cool:

I'm with you on the work schedule and what constitutes quality of life. I used to average 65 hour weeks and didn't take a vacation for about 6 years. I cut back because I decided that I'd rather have a life than just accumulate wealth. Yes, Americans tend to be materialistic and wasteful. But generally, they work like dogs (and unfortunately, often accumulate debt) to get all that "stuff." Australians are welcome to compete and can probably do so, if Japan and South Korea are any indicators.

I didn't take any of the comments personally, so no worries there. I was just questioning the newsworthiness of this article. If anything the Aussies often come across as arrogant and egotistical. Like how they jumped at my post when I was simply stating fact. Then again, maybe that thinking is just because I happen to have The World Series of Poker on tv right now and I'm having the pleasure of hearing a small group of Aussies shouting "aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi!" over and over. ;)
 
winmacguy said:
macidiot if you posted the article through the standard submitting chanels it would then become a discussion forum like all the other articles. That might help you a bit more.:)

I've tried submitting(both to macrumors and macbytes) before to no avail. Maybe its because I'm not Australian ;)
 
mad jew said:
Not everyone's perfect. :)


lol. :) Actually I am very curious about where macrumors and macbytes originates from. There seems to be a sizable Aussie, Kiwi, and UK representation. But for the life of me I can not locate the information anywhere on Macrumors or Macbytes. All I can find are email addresses.
 
mad jew said:
GorillaPaws makes an excellent point, probably the most accurate and level-headed of the thread, but I just had to point this out. :eek:

LOL. That may be one of the stupidest errors of my life (I had been up most of the night and was very tired). I'm so glad you caught that! Anyways thanks for the compliment. I love Aussies in general after I got drunk w/ a bunch of them in a shady bar on a trip to London a couple of years ago.
 
mad jew said:
It's definitely the USA, Chicago rings a bell. :)

It's kinda irrelevant where the servers are though, this is the internet.

*X-Files music*


Thanks for the info. I couldn't find it anywhere. Yeah, it is sort of irrelevant. But I was curious.
 
macidiot said:
I've tried submitting(both to macrumors and macbytes) before to no avail. Maybe its because I'm not Australian ;)
Thank God! neither am I:D :p Other wise my only good international sports team would be my cricket team:eek: :D
 
macidiot said:
lol. :) Actually I am very curious about where macrumors and macbytes originates from. There seems to be a sizable Aussie, Kiwi, and UK representation. But for the life of me I can not locate the information anywhere on Macrumors or Macbytes. All I can find are email addresses.
Mudbug hosts Macbytes out of Lousiana (hope I spelt it correctly?), Not sure where Arn hosts Macrumors from...?
 
GorillaPaws said:
LOL. That may be one of the stupidest errors of my life (I had been up most of the night and was very tired). I'm so glad you caught that! Anyways thanks for the compliment. I love Aussies in general after I got drunk w/ a bunch of them in a shady bar on a trip to London a couple of years ago.
Very easily done:) The Aussies and us Kiwis tend to do the big OE (Overseas Experience for 2-4 years) usually during our 20's when we base our collective selves in assorted flats in and around London, get temp jobs in accounting, teaching, IT, in pubs and anywhere else that we can earn a few quid. Then we take off in droves, Kombi vans and Contiki tour buses to see the wonders of modern and ancient Europe and to meet and get 'aquainted' with the local population and to sample the many local brews that abound in pubs across the continent, we make our pilgrimage to the shores of Gallipoli to pay homeage to the ANZACs (Australian, New Zealand Army Corps) who gave their lives at ANZAC cove in Turkey and then ever so much more worldly experienced we return home to our respective countries.:)
 
Macidiot is right!!

macidiot said:
Hmm, is this really news? Or worthy of macrumors page one? No offense but I have to think that Australia is a marginal market at best. I'm thinking its a smaller market than Los Angeles. I get that macrumors has a "down under" bias for some reason, but how about something a little more relevant? Please don't turn macrumors into another macbytes, linking to articles from Australian and New Zealand news outlets. Often days or weeks after the original(and identical) story appeared in America.

FYI, here's something newsworthy... How about the fact that the Wall St. Journal is reporting that NBC/Universal is "very close" to signing a deal to provide tv content on iTunes. And the source is the CEO of NBC/Universal. And guess what? This news is actually current.

I think that you've pissed off more than a few people with those sorts of comments (including myself). I know that Weezer sells more records per capita in New Zealand than anywhere else in the world (probably why there are so many posts about the Australian iTMS), and Australia and NZ combined buys more than a few iPods and Macs. Maybe if you pulled your head out of your ass for more than 30 seconds a day you might have realised that.
 
macidiot said:
Americans have the most wealth. But we also work harder and put in longer hours than anyone else to get that wealth. That's not being jingoistic, its reality.

macidiot said:
If anything the Aussies often come across as arrogant and egotistical. Like how they jumped at my post when I was simply stating fact.
OECD Factbook 2005
Economic, Environmental and Social Statistics

Graph: Actual hours worked, hours per year per person in employment, 2003
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