Am I reading wrong or wasn't Apple car got REAR ENDED? So the fault is at Leaf no?
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Apple Autonomous Test Vehicle Involved in Accident on August 24
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Yah, the title was a tad too much click-bait for my likes. It was not inaccurate, but saying "Test Vehicle rear-ended on Aug 24" would have been more accurate, yet far less attractive to readers.
The software in the vehicles will be held to a higher standard than Siri or Notes. Most software is written for quick recovery. The theory being things are going to go wrong, so log it, close as gracefully as possible and be ready to start back up.
Something like this would be written to not go down. Much like software in an operating room or the space shuttle. The theory being, it would be extremely bad and potentially fatal if this software crashes, so go above and beyond to make sure it's bug free.
You wouldn't put the Siri through years of extremely heavy testing. It's just not practical. But no one is likely to die when Siri crashes or gives a wrong answer.
There are so many things to be outraged by and then post about on social media I have begun to have self-doubt.
OUTRAGE??????.....!
I'm inclined to blame the Leaf because f*ck Baytard drivers, especially the ones driving Nissan Leaves.
Even when it isn't the Leaf's fault.
Even when it isn't the Leaf's fault.
Apple is testing its self-driving vehicles in a number of Lexus SUVs out on the roads of Cupertino, and on August 24, one of those vehicles was involved in an accident.
Apple is required to disclose autonomous vehicle collisions to the California DMV, and the information on the accident was published on the DMV's website.
According to the accident details, the vehicle in question was in autonomous mode at the time, and sustained moderate damage in the crash, but it does not appear that Apple was at fault for the collision. From the accident report:Apple has been testing its self-driving software in Lexus RX450h SUVs in Cupertino, California and surrounding areas since early 2017, but this is the first time an Apple vehicle has been involved in a crash.
Apple's test vehicles are outfitted with a host of sensors and cameras, and while they are autonomous, each one has a pair of drivers inside. At the current time, Apple is testing its software in more than 60 vehicles.
It's not yet clear what Apple plans to do with its self-driving software, but it could be added to existing cars and there are still rumors suggesting Apple is working on its own Apple-branded vehicle that could come out by 2025.
Apple is also working on a self-driving shuttle service called "PAIL," an acronym for "Palo Alto to Infinite Loop." The shuttle program will transport employees between Apple's offices in Silicon Valley.
Article Link: Apple Autonomous Test Vehicle Involved in Accident on August 24
Apple is testing its self-driving vehicles in a number of Lexus SUVs out on the roads of Cupertino, and on August 24, one of those vehicles was involved in an accident.
Apple is required to disclose autonomous vehicle collisions to the California DMV, and the information on the accident was published on the DMV's website.
According to the accident details, the vehicle in question was in autonomous mode at the time, and sustained moderate damage in the crash, but it does not appear that Apple was at fault for the collision. From the accident report:Apple has been testing its self-driving software in Lexus RX450h SUVs in Cupertino, California and surrounding areas since early 2017, but this is the first time an Apple vehicle has been involved in a crash.
Apple's test vehicles are outfitted with a host of sensors and cameras, and while they are autonomous, each one has a pair of drivers inside. At the current time, Apple is testing its software in more than 60 vehicles.
It's not yet clear what Apple plans to do with its self-driving software, but it could be added to existing cars and there are still rumors suggesting Apple is working on its own Apple-branded vehicle that could come out by 2025.
Apple is also working on a self-driving shuttle service called "PAIL," an acronym for "Palo Alto to Infinite Loop." The shuttle program will transport employees between Apple's offices in Silicon Valley.
Article Link: Apple Autonomous Test Vehicle Involved in Accident on August 24
Yet the headline made it sounded like THE autonomous vehicle to be the “cause” of the accident.
Why not put the headline as “Yet another person rear ended another car.” I mean that’s like what, the 100th time today? But do we see headlines about them?
What are you just saying it is completely different. If you cause a hazardous situation, you are responsible for the outcome. Like it or not, you’re not supposed to be stopping for a squirrel or rabbit. If you cause traffic to smash into you from behind for something like that, you are responsible.
It’s like those people who just suddenly stop in the middle of the road, just to let someone enter the roadway. It is illegal to stop in the road like that. If someone crashes into them from behind, they are responsible.
The law does not allow you to be irresponsible and create a hazardous situation which can cause damage to other people and simply walk away in the clear.
The Apple car was not doing anything irresponsible. It was simply waiting for a gap to merge into traffic.
I really wish news outlets would stop reporting on WHEN OTHER DRIVERS hit autonomous vehicles, and why do they always use ambiguous headlines (“involved in an accident”) that make it sound like it might be the fault of the autonomous car?
Can’t believe The auto insurance companies won’t spend every penny trying to prevent autonomous cars from taking off. Eventually we won’t need auto insurance anymore since all the cars will talk to each other and accidents won’t happen
Here in Ontario Canada no fault insurance rear ending someone else means you’re at fault: your insurance covers the damages
I do love the soccer faint foul play though lol.
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What just a preorder?
Why sire here is your pre-order number the deposit is waved. You can pay the remainder of the full retail price of the iPhone XS just prior to shipping.
Even Aladdin was more specific with his wishes
Yes, I saw some autonomous vehicles in Phoenix, and I was back about 200 meters and noticed how the humans treated the autonomous vehicle. The autonomous vehicle was signalling to change lanes - probably to take an exit - and more than one human driver blocked the autonomous car from changing lanes! Being jerks intentionally, I think.
The Autonomous car did not do what I would do, which is to hit the gas and be a bit more aggressive in the lane change, instead the autonomous car drove like a p-u-s-s-y and slowed down and took the signal light off and continued straight - probably missing it's intended exit.
I think the autonomous cars have to learn to drive with the flow of traffic a bit more and maybe a little bit less according to the posted speed limits.
My personal freeway driving style these days is to be driving about 10% over speed limit, and allowing faster cars to pass. I do not like to tailgate and I do not like if anyone is tailgating me. So I find some space, usually by accelerating and making distance. If I sense there is a tailgater behind me, I will be courteous and let him pass as easily as possible. If they are simply brainless tailgaters, I sense that and ditch them some other way.
The Autonomous vehicles need to get a driving philosophy, and probably the nerd scientists programming them have not thought about it as well as me. I'd bet big money on that actually.
Collision avoidance isn’t perfect? Not like Tesla hasn’t been involved in accidents.
If you have ever rear ended anyone - it is actually your fault. You must not tailgate, and you must be aware of your surroundings. The guy who cuts you off in front of you will only need to slam the brakes if you were already to close to the car in front!
If you have ever been rear ended by anyone, it's probably your bad driving style.
I'll boldly say this, not to pick on anyone in particular, but just to cause others to think about the flow of traffic and maybe "think different" when it comes to driving.
Sounds like the typical drivers from where I live. That sort of behavior is part of the reason I’ve had to semi retire my much loved 25 year old compact car and drive a big azz truck now. Just to safely get the kids to school and back. I gave up going out on weekends unless absolutely necessary because every trip out we narrowly avoid some idiot bound and determined to cause an accident.
One of the reasons besides iMessage that keeps me from fully switching to Android is I need Apple Maps. Apple freshly mapped out every road I could possibly need to travel. I’ve seen their vans down the craziest most remote looking backcountry roads.
And because we have so many unexpected traffic problems, I need to be rerouted down these unfamiliar roads at least once a week during my commute. I need Apple Maps. Google Maps or Waze might be better for the majority of people in a majority of circumstances but for me, Apple Maps is the best option. Anyway, that’s how bad it is out there on our roads...I need a freaking GPS just to get my kids to school and back. Granted, their school is two towns over.
Uh, from the article, quoting the DMV report . . . . "On August 24th at 2:58 p.m., an Apple vehicle in autonomous mode was rear-ended while preparing to merge onto Lawrence Expressway South from Kifer Road. . . ."
So, you get rear-ended. Yeah, you shoulda been paying better attention to your driving.
It is a disappointing surprise to observe how many posters have not read or managed to fully comprehend a clearly written article.
Um the LEAF is the best selling EV. I own the 2018 model, it’s an awesome car.
Autonomy is actually the real challenge here, I am sure Apple can manufacture cars even design better ones than tesla, but unless a good Autonomous vehicle software is build Apple will hold its plan. Though in the last one yr most people that left Tesla because of bad management practices of Elon have joined Apple. Which is a good News for the tech giant.
I hope we would see some plans, glimpses of an electric car from Apple before it is actually launched. A confirmation would be so good, i mean Google wouldnt be able to match that, which has already failed as a phone manufacturer.
Even Samsung would have to think twice if it could copy that? I would want to see if Samsung would want to copy Apple and make its own "Samsung Electric car"? That would be a interesting world.
I hope we would see some plans, glimpses of an electric car from Apple before it is actually launched. A confirmation would be so good, i mean Google wouldnt be able to match that, which has already failed as a phone manufacturer.
Even Samsung would have to think twice if it could copy that? I would want to see if Samsung would want to copy Apple and make its own "Samsung Electric car"? That would be a interesting world.
Lol, trying to train the car to drive aggressively. Wait till it figures out it can make its turn if it just merges into the other car. And maybe it'll also learn to avoid Priuses and ghetto-looking cars, which is honestly what I do.
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Doesn't matter how far you are from the car in front. If someone approaches from the other lane then cuts in front of you and brakes for no reason*, there's nothing you can reasonably do about it. The only way to avoid it at all is to stay far behind cars in other lanes too and hit your brakes every time someone is next to you, which is of course not an option.
* I've had someone do this to me, but luckily my reaction was quick enough.
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