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Network Reset Didn't Help

The network reset steps only worked temporarily, same as shutting the phone off and back on... but it happened again.
 
I had this problem also, my wife didn't get any of my texts. It was quite annoying especially since there was no notification that they hadn't gone through. I turned off iMessage, reset network settings, turned iMessage back on and it's been working since.
 
What does that have to do with this problem? How is SMS helpful when messages are stuck? If it would fail back to SMS, people could probably live with it until there is a fix. But in this case it doesn't.

It does for me. It seems the fall back to SMS was disabled for me after updating to IOS 7. After the last reset for this issue, I re enabled it. I'm getting the iMessage issue again today after another reset but if you leave it long enough, it does then send it as SMS. I wasn't getting any error message, the progress bar would just get near the end and then it would hang indefinitely. Now it seems it hangs for a period of time then reverts to SMS.
 
"We are aware of an issue that affects a fraction of a percent of our iMessage users, and we will have a fix available in an upcoming software update," Apple said in a statement. "In the meantime, we encourage any users having problems to reference our troubleshooting documents or contact AppleCare to help resolve their issue. We apologize for any inconvenience this causes impacted users."

Why are so many people in this thread obsessed with the way Apple chooses to express the number of people experiencing this problem and ignore the fact that Apple is addressing the issue at hand?

They could just ignore it (because so "few" are having the problem, I am not, neither are the people I message) but they are not.

You have to stop and realize that you have a magic box in your pocket that you can use to call just about anyone in the world, you can also send them letters (electronically) in seconds, you can also look at each other's faces and talk with each other if they have a similar magic box. So it is not working "perfectly" right now, get over it and be happy you have this magic available to you.
 
Sorry, but this is wrong. They never said "a fraction of a percentage". Their exact words are a fraction of a percent". "A percent" is exactly 1%. A fraction is a portion of that, a portion smaller than the whole 1%, of course. If that's not what Apple means, or even if it's what Apple means and such is not the true number, those are other issues.

The fact is that they are being very clear (for those with a very basic knowledge of English and Math) that the problem affects less than 1% of iOS 7 devices. True or false, that's what they're saying.

Condescension not withstanding, you're wrong. 'One percent' is exactly 1%. 'A percent' is a variable that has no numerical assignation. Just as 'a fraction' acts as an unknown variable in this instance. They mean the same thing.

That type of wording is Marketing 101. Meant to beguile those with; if I may borrow your quote, "a very basic knowledge of English and Math".

That sentence could read "a percent of a percent of our customer..." or "a fraction of a fraction of our customer..."

Remember the only numbers attributed in this story come from our forum members. Not the OP
 
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Why are so many people in this thread obsessed with the way Apple chooses to express the number of people experiencing this problem and ignore the fact that Apple is addressing the issue at hand?

They could just ignore it (because so "few" are having the problem, I am not, neither are the people I message) but they are not.

You have to stop and realize that you have a magic box in your pocket that you can use to call just about anyone in the world, you can also send them letters (electronically) in seconds, you can also look at each other's faces and talk with each other if they have a similar magic box. So it is not working "perfectly" right now, get over it and be happy you have this magic available to you.

Amen. SO many first world problems in this thread.
 
why is imessage so finicky?

nsa

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Nice BUT how about someone pointing out the fact that iTunes 11.1 under MacOS 10.8.5 keeps crashing for a lot of people right now... to the point where I can't go 12 hours without it stopping... App Not Responding requiring a forced quit and restart. This only happened starting with the latest update. Look at the Apple discussion boards....

I have 10.8.5 with iTunes 11.1, at work my iTunes app has been running for about a week, no issues. At home I've had one crash, i've relaunched it and no problems for a few days now.
 
"A fraction of a percent" my ass! I've been having this issue on and off since upgrading. I've spoken with others who have encountered it. It's been reported here on macrumors several times by many, many people. They're downplaying it a bit too much to say it's a fraction of a percent... unless they mean a large fraction of a large percent.

Agreed. It's driving me crazy. I usually don't bitch much, it is a new OS and there will be bugs, but don't downplay an obvious issue.

Yes, I have done all the suggested "fixes" which are only temporary.

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For once I am a fraction of a percent. :) Why can't this happen with Powerball? :mad:

:)
 
Consider yourself lucky. I used to get 8-10 hours out of my battery. Now I can barely squeeze 6 out of it and other report as little as 4.

For those that are finding the battery life (or iMessage issue) unbearable (the Ars Technica review found the 5 had the worst battery life effect of iOS 7 by far (for some reason), you could try rolling back to 6 (that is if Apple is still activating iOS6 installs...they were a few days after 7 rolled out).

Then come back to iOS 7 after Apple fixes the issues.

Here's the steps (not hard - but it does require Apple to be activating iOS 6 installs - otherwise you'll have to re-install iOS 7):

I updated my iPad 3 to iOS 7, enjoyed it immensely and rolled it back to iOS 6.1.3 successfully last week using iTunes 11.1 and a small amount of effort - no activation issues. Apple was activating the 6.1.3/4 installs last week but that may not last for long (days perhaps) so if you know you want to roll back, go get it done the sooner, the better (as soon as Apple stops activating the 6.1.x installs you'll be trapped in iOS 7).

You need to download the iOS 6.1.3 image, this page has direct Apple links to the files (for all iThings except the iPhone 5 which had a 6.1.4 update) - be sure and grab the right image for your iPhone/iPad/iPod and make a note of where its sitting (the file will have an .ipsw file name extension on the end of it):

http://www.redmondpie.com/download-i...-direct-links/

If you have an iPhone 5 then you want the iOS 6.1.4 image from this page:

http://www.redmondpie.com/download-i...-direct-links/

I used iTunes 11.1 for this (not sure whether iTunes 10.7 would work or not...). So, open iTunes and connect your iThing to your system and feel free to stop the synching - select your iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch (click the button in iTunes 11.1 so your iPhone/iPod etc. is all you see on your iTunes window) and then hold the "alt / option" key while clicking the "Restore iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch" button for the iOS (not your personal app/settings backup button which is separate).

Because you were holding the "alt / option" key, iTunes will prompt you to select the .ipsw file you want to use to restore - navigate to where you downloaded your iPhone/iPad/iPod .ipsw file and select the file, then start the restore, you'll see that 3-D chrome Apple bootup symbol on your device in a few minutes, ahhhhhh....

If you have a settings backup (from before iOS 7) you can choose to have it applied after the iOS 6 image is installed or just tell iTunes your iThing is new and you wont' get the backup Apps and settings applied. After its done you should be good to go.

If you have any trouble (I didn't) there is a nice page dealing with folks rolling back from the 7 beta's to iOS 6.1.3/4 and an occasional issue some user's would run into (they'd have to modify a text file) and might be what you need to look at:

http://readwrite.com/2013/06/13/how-...ohTkxW0MpYiLdZ

Enjoy being back in iOS 6.1.3/4 with iMessage that works, battery life you know, and the confidence you can come back to iOS 7 when you want to (after Apple fixes things). Best of luck...
 
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Apple is aware of a glitch in iOS 7 that is disrupting iMessage delivery and is working on a fix, reports The Wall Street Journal.
Since the release of iOS 7 last month, users have been complaining about issues relating to the sending and receiving of iMessages on their iOS devices. While some users have also complained about multi-day outages on their devices, Apple's System Status page hasn't documented all of them, suggesting that something more than a simple service problem is at fault.

As MacRumors reported yesterday, some users have reported that turning their iOS devices on and off has fixed their problem while others have claimed the method has not worked for them.*In our own testing with a device experiencing difficulties, the following steps appear to have fixed the issue (Note: this will cause your device to forget previously entered Wi-fi passwords):

1. Turn off iMessage in*Settings > Messages
2. Reset networking settings in*Settings > General > Reset
3. Reenable iMessage in*Settings > Messages

Last week Apple released iOS 7.0.2, which was an update that delivered several bug fixes, including a fix for a lock screen vulnerability. Earlier today it was reported that Apple had begun seeding iOS 7.0.3 internally ahead of a potential launch next week.

Article Link: Apple Aware of iOS 7 iMessage Issue, Working on a Fix

A fraction of 1%? That is potentially nearly a million people (@ say 9/10 OF 1%).
 
For once I am a fraction of a percent. :) Why can't this happen with Powerball? :mad:

ha! I love.

Since iMessage was working on my Mac Pro, I assumed it was for my iPhone 5 on 7.0.2. Not so much. Had to reset network settings, reboot, turn off iMessage and FaceTime, reboot, sign back in, done. I was rather surprised.
 
A "fraction" of a percent? I have this problem. My girlfriend has this problem. My co-workers have seen this problem. My best friend has encountered this problem.

Either that is some crazy odds or it's a little more than a fraction of a percent :rolleyes:

LOL, you yourself (one person), your Girlfriend (one person), your best friend (one person) and your co-workers (a few people), and you feel that pushes the estimate over a "fraction of a percent?" OKAYYY. ;)

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I'm a happy camper on iOS 6. I knew the GM wasn't polished and felt like a beta (to me) so I hopped right off. Will wait a few months until all the kinks are worked out! ;)

Excellent work, you're doing just fine so you kick everyone else when they're down. :rolleyes:

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More half-baked treats from Apple. :rolleyes:

To be honest about it I would blame some of the developers and the "non-developers" who got all giddy about the new system and just installed iOS7 just to play with it but didn't even bother to report the issues, but rather do the usual and come here and complain about it but take no initiative to report the issues.
 

Yes, Apple has horrible (or sloppy) PR :rolleyes: :https://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/30/apple-tops-coca-cola-google-to-become-worlds-most-valuable-brand/

Does ANYONE has any real facts that prove that this iMessage issue is affecting such a large number of people that the phrase "of an issue that affects a fraction of a percent of our iMessage users" is a misleading way to describe it?

According to TheVerge.com:
there's some 140 million iMessage users, who have sent 150 billion messages in total (with an average of one billion sent every day

This number (140,000,000 iMessage users) is from June of 2012, so I would think the number of users would be higher.

Are there more or less than 1,400,000 people (not devices, users) with this issue?

So if less that 1%* is experiencing this then what is everyone's problem with that statement? 1.4 million users is 1% so even if it is 1.399 million users with this issue, that is "a fraction of a percent" without having to throw semantics or technicalities at this ("100/1 is a fraction!", "95% is 'a percent'!")

If someone has some figures that show this is affecting more than 1,399,999 iMessage users (or that 140 million is not correct estimate of all iMessage users) please correct me

* Since apple said "a fraction of a percent" I would say it is fair that it sounds like they are referring to a fraction {less than 1/1} of that 1%
 
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If someone has some figures that show this is affecting more than 1,399,999 iMessage users (or that 140 million is not correct estimate of all iMessage users) please correct me

First, I'm not sure many people care that much about the detail. Second, if you're having the problem and it affects you, it's likely you don't really care what the exact percentage is. And, isn't it just as likely that Apple is simply referring to the amount of complaints it's getting? Surely that IS a fraction of a percent, but perhaps more than a fraction of a percent of users are experiencing an issue. I can count on one hand how many times I've ever given feedback on the feedback section of Apple's website. In any case, I'm doubtful anyone is truly interested in playing a numbers game with you. It's just in a humorous spirit that people are commenting anyway. It's like when Apple refers to its products as 'magical'. Just a bit of hyperbole to laugh at - little else.

In any case, my friend is having this issue, but I'm not. So, that makes 50%. =P
 
In any case, my friend is having this issue, but I'm not. So, that makes 50%. =P

Well, Apple is dealing with your friend's issue but did not write their statement about the issue with only the two of you in mind.

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...Second, if you're having the problem and it affects you, it's likely you don't really care what the exact percentage is.

People don't care?

"A fraction of a percent" my ass!...I've spoken with others who have encountered it. It's been reported here on macrumors several times by many, many people. They're downplaying it a bit too much to say it's a fraction of a percent... unless they mean a large fraction of a large percent.
A fraction somewhere between 1/1,000,000 and 1/2?
A "fraction" of a percent? I have this problem. My girlfriend has this problem. My co-workers have seen this problem. My best friend has encountered this problem.
Either that is some crazy odds or it's a little more than a fraction of a percent
I love how they worded that, "A fraction of a percentage of our users". It doesn't seem like a small number to me. It happened to my mom, quite a few friends, and myself.
...could be 5000/100 percent. Or about half. Which would match up with my small sample size of around 6 users. My wife had the problem today and wondered why I didn't get any of her 5 texts.

Well, I guess if a few people who post here know a half dozen people with the issue, it must be affecting hundreds of millions of people...:rolleyes:

And my real point was (the big detail a lot of people are ignoring) Apple is fixing the issue.
 
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Me too

Its very strange, it happens with some messages but not others to the same people ... it seems to be associated with some wifi networks but even that is inconsistent with messages going through but not others.
 
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