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maybe someone should have stopped her from buying one as her first computer, bc u actually need a computer to use the thing. Atleast thats what a mac sales person told me. They said its in an agreement that u sign that u have to have a computer b4 buying an IPAD.

She has no debit card in her name...ok u can go to almost ne bank with bad credit and mine is bad still open up a checking account and get a debit card. In fact TD bank lets u do all of that including have the card ready in 5 min. Or **** go to the gas station and get a money order lol. Am i missing something here?

Where do you people come up with this nonsense? Sheesh!
 
It is NOT illegal to not accept U.S. currency. There is no law requiring acceptance of any particular form of payment. Not sure if that is what you meant or not b/c it doesn't jibe with the "PC" portion of your comment.

What the original comment was misconstruing is that the U.S. Government is obligated to recognize U.S. currency and coin as legal tender "for all debts public and private". The dollar is backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. Treasury. This means any bank, institution, business, etc. receiving U.S. currency or coins can be assured that the government recognizes it as a legal form of "consideration"... or deferred payment in kind for goods or services rendered. I say "deferred" because the dollar is essentially an I.O.U. for goods and services, whose value is determined by the market for those goods and services.

Getting off the rails here a little bit, but I feel that's an important distinction a lot of people miss. The paper has no value in and of itself. It is a promise to pay, that the U.S. Government, its courts, etc. would recognize as binding consideration in any commercial transaction.

However, that doesn't obligate any private party to ACCEPT cash as payment. But once they do, then the contract is binding.

Sidenote: Someone earlier said "checks" but checks are essentially the same as cash. They too are a promise to pay drawn against a cash account, as opposed to credit, equity (securities, bonds, etc.) instruments, and the like.

EDIT: Also see here for the U.S. Treasury's answer to this question.
 
Scalpers make money off of nothing, that's the corruption.

Not true. They are buying an item and the reselling it hopefully at a profit, just like a Walmart or a BestBuy or any other online retailer. The macsales website doesn't actually make or design any of the products they sell. Are they making money off nothing too? You're basically saying all retail is corruption with your definition.

When scalpers buy all the stock and there is nothing left, people will be forced to buy at a higher price or wait (and often buy something else).

No one is forcing anyone to do anything. If people don't want to pay the higher price then wait. If everyone waited then the scalpers end up stuck with iPads they can't sell. The thing is that demand outstrips supply and plenty of people are willing to pay a premium. Pretty basic economics.
 
She didn't even ask to talk to a manager according to the story. That's step one whenever you encounter any questionable information in a store. Doesn't smell right...

Yeah, this story is bs on so many levels. Typical propaganda agenda-driven Bull Sh**. And poor Apple has to bend on its knees.
 
Wow, so many clueless people on this forum... I don't have a checking account thanks to the great American banking system fraud. Let me explain how this works (and more people than you realize have this issue in America.)

I had a bank that lost $1000 from my account which made me $3 overdrawn. As I was fighting with them to show how it was their mistake, they were racking up overdraft charges until my account became $503 overdrawn ( the 3 plus 500 in overdraft fees.) Finally someone saw the mistake and they reversed all charges... but it was too late, by that time they had already reported me to ChexSystems, a completely unregulated private company that all banks go through before you can open a checking account (checking accounts do not depend on your credit though they say they run your credit, but they ALL go through ChexSystems.) Once you are on ChexSystems, even if you have proof that it was the bank's error and you have a letter from them as I did, you are still stuck on ChexSystems for 10 years and NO bank will open an account for you at all. I've tried them all.

So this lady is most likely on ChexSystems which is why she can't get a checking account. To the poster who said "and if you get paid via check then you must have a checking account" have you not heard of check cashing stores? This was my only solution. You can cash your payroll check at a check cashing store (for a very high fee) and some of them also provide prepaid Debit Cards. That's want she could have done.

Many, many people are in this situation regardless of income, status, race, etc. In my case I make $95,000 per year with my own business and I can't have a checking account and have to cash my checks (that are written in my company's name) at a stupid check cashing store thanks to the stupid way the banking industry conducts business...

Who the heck were you banking with? Joe's bank and pawn shop. :D
 
And how is that protecting?

The guy who wants to buy 10 is also an Apple customer, isn't he?

Very simple.

Guy buys 10 ipads for $500.

You try to buy one, but the store is out of stock on all models.

Guy who just bought 10 walks up to you and offers you one for $800. For that price you might as well buy a 64gb model. Oh, he can sell you one of those too, $1200.

All of a sudden you won't be so happy that the store allowed him to buy 10.
 
Misinformation! You can open a savings account and deposit your checks to it. Most fixed income schemes I know of work on direct deposit. My grandfather has been getting his pension and Social Security retirement money direct deposited for years because they changed how they operate. A lot of employers are going direct deposit only. Like I said, they just don't want you to be able to float bad checks. It might even just be an ATM card with your savings account, but you should still ask for the manager before you call the news.

Wow, so many clueless people on this forum... I don't have a checking account thanks to the great American banking system fraud. Let me explain how this works (and more people than you realize have this issue in America.)

I had a bank that lost $1000 from my account which made me $3 overdrawn. As I was fighting with them to show how it was their mistake, they were racking up overdraft charges until my account became $503 overdrawn ( the 3 plus 500 in overdraft fees.) Finally someone saw the mistake and they reversed all charges... but it was too late, by that time they had already reported me to ChexSystems, a completely unregulated private company that all banks go through before you can open a checking account (checking accounts do not depend on your credit though they say they run your credit, but they ALL go through ChexSystems.) Once you are on ChexSystems, even if you have proof that it was the bank's error and you have a letter from them as I did, you are still stuck on ChexSystems for 10 years and NO bank will open an account for you at all. I've tried them all.

So this lady is most likely on ChexSystems which is why she can't get a checking account. To the poster who said "and if you get paid via check then you must have a checking account" have you not heard of check cashing stores? This was my only solution. You can cash your payroll check at a check cashing store (for a very high fee) and some of them also provide prepaid Debit Cards. That's want she could have done.

Many, many people are in this situation regardless of income, status, race, etc. In my case I make $95,000 per year with my own business and I can't have a checking account and have to cash my checks (that are written in my company's name) at a stupid check cashing store thanks to the stupid way the banking industry conducts business...
 
What debt was there to settle? Check the definition of debt.

To "settle a debt" essentially means to make payment that is owed.... regardless of the timeframe. If I hand you a piece of merchandise, you now owe me the purchase price. Paying me that sum a minute later out of your pocket is essentially "settling the debt."
 
Anyone can get a credit card in the States. Years ago a friend of mine had an identity theft issue where his credit score was slammed low, showed no employment history and even some false warrants were out on his name.

In the middle of correcting it, he managed to get a pre-paid credit card (VISA switch) that he was able to use anywhere. This lady could easily go to a local check cashing place in Palo Alto, put that cash in a pre-paid credit card for a small fee and walk out with a credit card good to go to buy that iPad.

Or was this a planned publicity stunt?

The policy was that you had to have a credit card with your name on it. Any kind of prepaid card was not being accepted either.
 
Not true. They are buying an item and the reselling it hopefully at a profit, just like a Walmart or a BestBuy or any other online retailer. The macsales website doesn't actually make or design any of the products they sell. Are they making money off nothing too? You're basically saying all retail is corruption with your definition.



No one is forcing anyone to do anything. If people don't want to pay the higher price then wait. If everyone waited then the scalpers end up stuck with iPads they can't sell. The thing is that demand outstrips supply and plenty of people are willing to pay a premium. Pretty basic economics.

Really? so you wouldn't be pissed if you marketed something, came up with a fair price so that everyone could take advantage of your product if they chose to do so, then someone bought your product and sold it to make way more than double the profit you spent years developing?

You are right about one thing, scalpers wouldn't sell anything if there wasn't a high demand. However, those individuals wouldn't go to scalpers if there was product in the store they could buy.


You have no idea how corrupt some people are. The majority of these scalpers are the same ones that are going into the Stores and are fooling the credit systems to buy products with stolen credit cards, only so they can mess up your credit so you can't buy the things you want. Then they'll sell them to you and a much higher price to make untraceable cash. THAT is what Apple is trying to stop.
 
How do you figure that? Ever hear of WiFi?

I think you misread his post. To activate an iPad means to get past the itunes logo so you can use it. All you have to do is connect it to iTunes. You don't ever need an itunes account, unless you want to download apps. Yes you can use wifi to search the internet, but you'd still need and itunes account to download apps. And you still need to connect it to itunes to activate it.
 
You're obviously foreign so I'll let the grammar slide. I hardly carry cash and know how much I have in my account within a few dollars (due to rounding). It's pretty simple math. That, or use that little ledger they give you when you open your account. It's not that hard. Just don't do it while you're still on line - it's just rude.

She is extreme wisely than you are. Between debit card and checking/cash are complete different your feel and emotion. Carry debit card is more like lack of financial management because you don't know what exactly in balance. It easy to spend gas, food, out restaurant till next day and check balance at banking online, then you realize how much you spend waste money.

Carry cash and you can see different "feel" emotion when money go less. Prove yourself for week.

No wonder how hundred millions Americans are in deeply debt with credit card because they habit with credit in life than 70's
 
Idiotic

A block away from the store you can get a prepaid visa card from the bank. This is a total scam!!
 
Big deal. Apple gave away something that cost them 200 bucks to make.

Have you ever heard a thing called the stock market? You breathe too heavily about any company and it shifts. Apple was trying to protect the shareholders but not having this bad pr hurt their stock.
 
^ this, at least to activate it...

Step one: Set ridiculous policy
Step two: Receive bad press
Step three: Reverse ridiculous policy, hand out free gadget to eldery, crowned as saints
Step four: ???
Step five : Profit

That only works with underpants. You know that.
 
If she didn't believe in technology, why did she save for an iPad.

A lot of people still don't believe in debit cards or technology. My grandfather doesn't have one and does everything with cash and checks. He even drives to the airport when he needs to buy an airline ticket to buy it in person with cash (or check if they accept that, but I don't think they do).



Lack of a debit or credit card does not equal lack of a checking account.
 
No, it isn't. Please do not disclose false legal advice. I'm saying this for your own safety, as real lawyers will eat you alive. Check the definition of debt, and check the US Treasure site. Common sense prevails.

Apparently Apple has never read a dollar bill before. It's FEDERAL LAW that all businesses and persons must accept cash for all payments.
 
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