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How is this any different than Ticketmaster limiting ticket sales to 2, 4, 6, or 8 for major concert and sporting even onsales?

I'm not familiar with Ticketmaster, but it seems its normal in the US. I'll shut up now.
 
I'm at a loss why such policy even exists in the first place :confused:

Well, allow me to explain why. Plenty of stores and companies limit the amount of product that one can purchase all of the time. It is extremely normal, and not uncommon at all.

If you go to your local supermarket, you might see that a 2 liter coke bottle is on sale for 99 cents. And the limit is 4 bottles per customer, for example. The reason for this is obviously so that no single person, company or entity will be able to walk into that store and buy 1000 bottles thus clearing out the whole inventory, leaving a whole boatload of angry customers coming in and wondering why the store advertised something which they cannot deliver. It would be ridiculous to not have any rules at all. It is common sense.

The same applied to the iPad when it first came out. It's still extremely hard to get a hold of. Apple wants to please as many people as possible and I guess that they wish to prevent shady types from buying up large amounts and selling them for profit.

It makes total sense.
 
So she wants to have technology... why not use a debit card?

She is extreme wisely than you are. Between debit card and checking/cash are complete different your feel and emotion. Carry debit card is more like lack of financial management because you don't know what exactly in balance. It easy to spend gas, food, out restaurant till next day and check balance at banking online, then you realize how much you spend waste money.

Carry cash and you can see different "feel" emotion when money go less. Prove yourself for week.

No wonder how hundred millions Americans are in deeply debt with credit card because they habit with credit in life than 70's
 
I do question how one can even function in a society without a mere checking account? I mean, I can not think of a single employer who pays cash instead of checks....and if you get paid via check then you must have a checking account.

Even if she did not have one, she could have gotten one for free with a debit card and been able to circumvent this

Or maybe she is isn't the brightest bulb in the box...




Help me think of a way to illustrate an Apple policy as bad so I can get a free product!


Umm, you don't need to have a checking account to cash a paycheck. The bank on which it's drawn will actually give you cash, believe it or not. Not to mention all of the check cashing establishments out there. I know it's hard for most of us to believe, but there is a certain segment of society whose credit is so bad that almost all banks will tell them to pound sand if they try to open a checking account.
 
I doubt they intended to keep the no cash policy once the rush was over. with international sales coming up real soon and most stores not having walk in units anyway (so you have to put in a reservation and they can always set the system to watch for repeated emails and cancel them on you) they wouldn't need to.

maybe someone should have stopped her from buying one as her first computer, bc u actually need a computer to use the thing. Atleast thats what a mac sales person told me. They said its in an agreement that u sign that u have to have a computer b4 buying an IPAD.

well someone told you wrong. and there is no such agreement. I should know. I bought one for myself. one as a gift for my niece and nephew and 20 for my employer (via a special agreement with Apple's business sales department)

you need it to activate it. but they will do that in the store.
you need it to buy large file size items like movies. maybe she doesn't care about those
you need it to back up your media. but if she's just doing email on something that is imap (which never leaves the server) and youtube (which isn't downloaded anyway) or using free apps that can be downloaded again no fuss. she's good.
there's even a wall charger to cover that base
 
Most people that don't have a checking account either are an illegal alien or have BAD CREDIT. When you have a bankruptcy or other types of bad credit banks can refuse to give you a checking account. Your employer pays you with a check, you pick it up, and you take it to a check cashing place. THE END. God, what planet are you from to not have known this?

If you have bad credit, what business do you have buying a luxury item like an ipad?

I would like to hear the reasoning as having bad credit typically means you don't know how to manage your money in the first place in which case, buying an ipad probably isn't the best of ideas...
 
maybe someone should have stopped her from buying one as her first computer, bc u actually need a computer to use the thing. Atleast thats what a mac sales person told me. They said its in an agreement that u sign that u have to have a computer b4 buying an IPAD.

She has no debit card in her name...ok u can go to almost ne bank with bad credit and mine is bad still open up a checking account and get a debit card. In fact TD bank lets u do all of that including have the card ready in 5 min. Or **** go to the gas station and get a money order lol. Am i missing something here?

One thing you're missing is a lot of letters and punctuation. This is a forum, not a text messaging session. There are 104 keys on that keyboard. Use them, please.

As far as needing a computer, not true. If you read the article closely you would have seen that if you pay cash they set it up at the store. So technically it never has to be plugged into a computer again. Of course, when it comes update time...
 
Give a brotha' a break!

Hey Steve, give a brotha' a break!
:rolleyes: I want to pay with cash. Hmm. No doorbell ring.


So technically it never has to be plugged into a computer again. Of course, when it comes update time...
... go back to the Apple Store.
 
Judge not...

You know, when I first saw this video I had to double check to make sure it wans't TheOnion. This is almost too silly to be real. I mean, its great that she got a free iPad and all, and it was a great gesture on Apple's part, but what made me think this video was a satire was her/the reporter saying that she had been like carefully saving up her pennies for an iPad. Clearly, she doesn't have a lot of money. Not to be offensive, but what in the HELL does this woman need with an iPad? Am I missing something? This report makes it sound like she was denied the purchase of some essential house-hold product.. not an arguably luxury product.

Do you think maybe you're being just a bit judgmental and even mean spirited?

No, make that a lot judgmental. Who are you to decide who needs what?

But since we're playing this game, let's try asking the rest of the folks here if you deserve the right to judge Diane Campbell.
 
Sigh. Pending the definition of "fixed income", I'm willing to bet there are better things she could have spent her money on. [flame war initiate]

Please don't go there. Unless we are willing to eliminate ALL forms of welfare (something that even a right wing nut job like myself knows is not practical) we all need to look in the mirror. Who amongst us hasn't bought "toys" when the money may have been better spent on something more "grown up?"
 
This is awesome! It was a nice thing by apple to give her a free ipad...:)

let's not get too big with the praising.

it was likely a 16GB wifi just like she was going to buy and cost them maybe $150 to make.

but the good PR of saying 'we've been reviewing this policy and this particular situation brings to light just how lame a policy it is. so we are going to police those resellers and ebay profiteers a different way' and having her something for free is worth way way more than $150

and heck since they brought it to her house, they probably opened it and activated it for her already (it's ready to go) and for all we know it was some returned unit from someone that got a wifi and decided they wanted bigger. so they restored it and there ya go. great PR for the price of one less refurb/service part.
 
You have to connect iPad to a computer to activate it. When you do this you must enter your apple account in iTunes.

Oh, big brother.

If you activate it in the store, does that mean that you'll never need to install that bloated pig of an app called "Itunes" on your Windows 7 system?

Or does the Ipad need to "phone home" to Cupertino every day to check up on you?
 
She has no debit card in her name...ok u can go to almost ne bank with bad credit and mine is bad still open up a checking account and get a debit card. In fact TD bank lets u do all of that including have the card ready in 5 min. Or **** go to the gas station and get a money order lol. Am i missing something here?

A lot of people still don't believe in debit cards or technology. My grandfather doesn't have one and does everything with cash and checks. He even drives to the airport when he needs to buy an airline ticket to buy it in person with cash (or check if they accept that, but I don't think they do).

I do question how one can even function in a society without a mere checking account? I mean, I can not think of a single employer who pays cash instead of checks....and if you get paid via check then you must have a checking account.

Lack of a debit or credit card does not equal lack of a checking account.
 
This sucks.

I've been e-mailing Steve Jobs for weeks now - at least six total emails over four weeks, telling him how badly I felt that I couldn't buy an iPad since I didn't have a credit/debit card.

And now this? A TV station picks it up and she gets a free iPad?
Screw you Diane, screw you.

Not sure where you live but I live here in the SF Bay Area California near Apple's headquarters. Our local news TV stations have a consumer line where people can call if they feel they were mistreated by either their utility company, credit card company or any company that they are attempting to do financial transactions with. Our news TV stations will call these retailers or utility companies and almost every time the company gives in and the consumer prevails.

You emailing Steve is like sending him spam, it's just another email. When the local news media contacts companies like Apple, the company listens and settles the issue so don't show hate for Diane because she did it right and won.
 
A lot of people still don't believe in debit cards or technology. My grandfather doesn't have one and does everything with cash and checks. He even drives to the airport when he needs to buy an airline ticket to buy it in person with cash (or check if they accept that, but I don't think they do).


And the crazy part about that is that:

A. He likely pays for that privilege. Most airlines charge you a fee to buy the ticket at the airport.

B. He doesn't even realize all of the "technology" that goes into processing that check, which is far less secure than a debit card, BTW.
 
I guess she's going to have only download free apps, otherwise you need a credit card, don't you?

And she'll need an internet connection too.

Actually you can activate an iTunes account with a gift card. She can buy apps with those. I hope she got the 3G iPad, because I don't see an elderly lady who's never had a computer before being able to configure a modem and a wireless router. Of course if she does have Internet service how does she pay for it, and how would she pay for 3G service without a credit card? I know AT&T won't accept iTunes Gift Cards. This story seems fishy.
 
Sigh. Pending the definition of "fixed income", I'm willing to bet there are better things she could have spent her money on. [flame war initiate]

On the other hand, it's nice to see them come up with a compromise solution.



If she set up her account in the store, one would reasonably assume that she activated the iPad there as well.


I am surprised at what these forums have become. You have no idea–and neither do I–about what her fixed-income implies in the news story. Don't bet a cent on what she could have spent with her money. What is wrong with you guys?
 
I believe you meant to say "isn't it even illegal..."

And technically, yes. You're correct. Cash is legal tender. By Federal law, you must accept legal tender as payment of a debt.

of a debt yes. however, the law also points out that merchants do not have to accept cash as payment for goods at the time of purchase
 
I had a bank that lost $1000 from my account which made me $3 overdrawn. As I was fighting with them to show how it was their mistake, they were racking up overdraft charges until my account became $503 overdrawn ( the 3 plus 500 in overdraft fees.) Finally someone saw the mistake and they reversed all charges... but it was too late, by that time they had already reported me to ChexSystems, a completely unregulated private company that all banks go through before you can open a checking account (checking accounts do not depend on your credit though they say they run your credit, but they ALL go through ChexSystems.) Once you are on ChexSystems, even if you have proof that it was the bank's error and you have a letter from them as I did, you are still stuck on ChexSystems for 10 years and NO bank will open an account for you at all. I've tried them all.

Wow, that sucks! I had BofA 'lose' $1k of my money one time (I found out when I tried to withdraw some money for lunch and the computer told me I was -$5 in my account huh!?). I went down to the branch and demanded it back on the spot. The manager tried to give me the runaround to which I told him that I was going to call the police and accuse them of stealing if he didn't 'find' my money right then and close my account. He left the office and a few minutes later I had my account closed and a cashiers check for the full amount. I will NEVER bank with them or any other bank again. I now only use local credit unions where the people there actually know me.

Speaking of, have you tried your local credit unions? If you have a regular income and can direct deposit I'm willing to bet you can find one that will work with you. IMHO, using credit unions is the only way to bank anymore.
 
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