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Apple Bans Developer with 800+ Apps from App Store
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Instead of putting the fee on the developer, why aren't all the apps "sold" as "trial" apps that can be fully run for 2-3 times. After the 2nd or 3rd time launched, the app will need to be purchased in order to continue running.
Many times I've bought apps based on the hype or high reviews only to have used them once or twice (games, especially.)
Many times I've bought apps based on the hype or high reviews only to have used them once or twice (games, especially.)
Ummm...
Achiever. Are you in favor of any of the following?:
As a consumer:
When you go to a restaurant or store do you choose it because of the contents of the restaurant or store? Would you like the store owner to exercise some judgement on the products it chooses to stock or fill the shelves with crap you don't want as well in the name of freedom of choice?
Do you believe apple are trying to offer a premium or quality controlled user experience? And if so, in the name of capitalism do you believe they should have the right to do so?
Would you like apple to be forced to provide OSX to any manufacturer, without any safeguards on compatibility? If so should this be done by free market forces, criminal sanctions, legislation or some other means?
Do you think it is acceptable for forum posters to be happy when crap is removed from a store?
Achiever. Are you in favor of any of the following?:
- Copyright infringement?
- Theft of copyrighted content?
- Misrepresentation of product capabilities?
As a consumer:
When you go to a restaurant or store do you choose it because of the contents of the restaurant or store? Would you like the store owner to exercise some judgement on the products it chooses to stock or fill the shelves with crap you don't want as well in the name of freedom of choice?
Do you believe apple are trying to offer a premium or quality controlled user experience? And if so, in the name of capitalism do you believe they should have the right to do so?
Would you like apple to be forced to provide OSX to any manufacturer, without any safeguards on compatibility? If so should this be done by free market forces, criminal sanctions, legislation or some other means?
Do you think it is acceptable for forum posters to be happy when crap is removed from a store?
Sounded like a scandal from the title, but my first impression from the app list was "SPAM".
Good riddance - there's enough ***** on the App Store as it is without spammers jumping in.
Good riddance - there's enough ***** on the App Store as it is without spammers jumping in.
The less if this sort of crap in the App store the better! It is the piles of rubbish apps like this in the app store that make finding decent apps hard to find.
This.
Gawd, thank you. I almost went off on a tanty about the same thing, but you said it more succinctly, clearly and without the rampant sarcasm that I would have.
Ummm... totally bogus logic. If people got to use them first maybe, but they don't. They buy his apps based on the marketing promise of them alone, not their usefulness. Haven't you ever bought something EXPECTING it to be useful, only later to find out it was a $5 pile of crap?
Regardless the question for Apple really should be how did it take 800+ of these pieces of crap before they took action? Maybe it was part of their stratagy to get to 1 billion apps served? I just don't get how their reviewers can take the time to reject apps from reliable trustworthy companies like Google but not the few minutes it'd take to look at one of these and reject it?
Let the buyer beware
Enough with regulations and watch dogs.
If someone is stupid enough to buy this crap thats their problem.
People have to learn to use their own head and stop looking to
some higher authority to protect them.
Enough with regulations and watch dogs.
If someone is stupid enough to buy this crap thats their problem.
People have to learn to use their own head and stop looking to
some higher authority to protect them.
Well, you see, Americans settlers brought with them from Europe a Lutheran tradition of valuing hard labor and making an honest living. They don't mind anyone making a profit and swimming in money, as long as they deserved it by being talented, innovative and/or at least hard working.
That's the opposite of a socialist, who is anal about equality and therefore hates the fact that some are born more gifted than others.
Both the former and the latter group hate the third kind, i.e. the ones who only want to make money for money's sake, morals/ethics/talent/innovation/hard labor be damned. That kind has missed the boat completely.
As a developer that tries to develop useful applications, I think that Apple has done The Right Thing removing these apps that were made just for making money.
Sure I want (and need) to make money from my work as everyone else but I always try to make good apps and the amount of crap that the app store contains does not help.
So why don't develop something useful, Mr. Shaikh ?
Sure I want (and need) to make money from my work as everyone else but I always try to make good apps and the amount of crap that the app store contains does not help.
So why don't develop something useful, Mr. Shaikh ?
The ranting about capitalism is quite pointless. Capitalism works when we have informed buyers making informed purchased. But we all know that buyers are NOT informed! It's quite common these days that inferior products thrive at the expence of superior products. Just look at Bose or Microsoft.
And ranting about socialism makes it quite apparent that there are many (most?) Americans that have been brainwashed in to thinking that socialism = bad. Socialism is an economic system. It has some good points in it, and it has some bad points in it. To make the universal claim that it's bad or that it does not work, is quite stupid. There are plenty of countries that could be considered "socialistic" (Nordic countries for example), and they are doing just fine, even when compared to USA.
And it should be noted that USA is not pure capitalistic society either. Pure capitalism is a pipe-dream, just like pure communism is. Both need huge caveats in order for either of them to function properly, but those caveats do not exist. That is why countries are located somewhere between communism and capitalism when it comes to economic policy.
And ranting about socialism makes it quite apparent that there are many (most?) Americans that have been brainwashed in to thinking that socialism = bad. Socialism is an economic system. It has some good points in it, and it has some bad points in it. To make the universal claim that it's bad or that it does not work, is quite stupid. There are plenty of countries that could be considered "socialistic" (Nordic countries for example), and they are doing just fine, even when compared to USA.
And it should be noted that USA is not pure capitalistic society either. Pure capitalism is a pipe-dream, just like pure communism is. Both need huge caveats in order for either of them to function properly, but those caveats do not exist. That is why countries are located somewhere between communism and capitalism when it comes to economic policy.
Believes everyone is equal and can pay a equal role in society.
i.e. A bin man does not have as nice a job as a doctor but both are equally needed in order for the world to run and if we go as far as communism both would be paid equally.
I think Apple did the right thing in ceasing to enable this developer to violate the law. However, I am frustrated that Apple has created a closed system based on their approval, but haven't adequately guaranteed quality control. Apple can't have it both ways - either their approval of an app should mean that the app is useful, advertised accurately, and does not crash or they should open of the app market completely.
Off topic: I find it rather amazing that people from the US equate the worst features of the USSR with socialism. The problem with the USSR was the corruption of power in a one-party system led by dictators, not with the provision of education, health care and social welfare. In the US schools (and at least many universities), law enforcement, fire & rescue services, the armed forces, public health services (PHS, NIH, CDC) etc. are provided by the government rather than the private sector because we all have an interest in the general availability of these essential services. What's so godawful about that?
Off topic: I find it rather amazing that people from the US equate the worst features of the USSR with socialism. The problem with the USSR was the corruption of power in a one-party system led by dictators, not with the provision of education, health care and social welfare. In the US schools (and at least many universities), law enforcement, fire & rescue services, the armed forces, public health services (PHS, NIH, CDC) etc. are provided by the government rather than the private sector because we all have an interest in the general availability of these essential services. What's so godawful about that?
Sounds more like social liberalism or social democracy to me. Pure socialism is more of a celebration of mediocrity, and the difference between bona fide socialism and communism is in small print.
A disdain for pure unbridled greed and making money for money's sake, on the other hand, transcends all political ideologies and thus has nothing to do with socialism -- it was always considered despicable and shameful if not downright sinful in all cultures, long before socialism was conceived. The 4th century monk who listed Greed as one of the deadly sins had never heard of socialism. Nor had whoever wrote the part of the Bible where Jesus cleanses the temple of the money changers. Islam also teaches that making money on money (=interest) is sinful. You can be a hardcore right-winger and still have a beef with unethical money-making schemes like this 800+ app dude was running.
Achiever asked "when did Americans start drinking the socialism kool-aid?", which is the wrong question because A) They obviously never did, and B) this has nothing to do with political affiliations. A more appropriate question would be "when did Americans develop a distaste for shameless money-making schemes?", and the answer is that it started long before they were Americans, it dates back to their European roots, and European culture can be traced back to earlier cultures, so... it started a few thousand years ago, minimum.
800 apps? That's one busy guy - what sort of apps did he have? Just sex stuff? I didn't know you could have sex apps..
1) If we could return apps easily, then I'd be more inclined to let all the junk stay.
2) Apple is just practicing capitalism as well: the part where you try to keep your reputation.
Capitalism is not just about making as much money as you can. That's the simple definition. In actual practice, it's about sales competition, which includes promoting quality and value.
2) Apple is just practicing capitalism as well: the part where you try to keep your reputation.
Capitalism is not just about making as much money as you can. That's the simple definition. In actual practice, it's about sales competition, which includes promoting quality and value.