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go read jack welch's books. happens all the time. you just have to be one step ahead of the commoditization curve and get into the new thing.

when he became CEO, GE used to make clothes irons. he dumped all the businesses that were under risk of being commoditized and look at GE now
I'll take a look at some of his books. They look interesting.

I'll suggest Daemon by Daniel Suarez for you. It's a work of fiction though.
 
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Impressive stuff Apple. You really shook the smartphone world with the iPhone.

Long may the innovation continue! :D
 
Interesting. Remember when we used to bitch about Moto's inability to deliver a new PowerPC chip to Apple? That seems like a million years ago...

Moto moved into their "core" business of mobile devices and Apple sweeps in and beats them at their own game.
 
No apple sells 1 phone, one model, memory size does not equal different phones.

You can only buy now 3gs phone so its just one, still one phone so many sales, what does it say about what a part of the population wants when it comes to a phone. :D

Now with the ipad I guess that could be considered 2 different systems, but I don't see the iphone in the same way.

Sorry to be picky, but Apple are still selling the 3G as well as the 3GS - see here
 
Personal observation...

All I see are iPhones. When I'm at the store, on the street, etc... every time I see someone taking out a "smartphone", it's an iPhone. (I do see plenty of cheaper phones... have one myself actually, but I'm just talking about the smartphone category). I know that stats don't lie, and there are plenty of other phones out there, but where? I live in the Portland, OR area... I would find it hard to believe this is some kind of iPhone hotspot any more than other places. Is there someplace else where everyone has a droid? Who is using them?

Anyway, it just seems perplexing to me... just from my personal perspective... that iPhone doesn't have like 90% market share. I know that I must be 'not seeing' other phones for some reason or other, but it's just very strange.
 
What has China got to do with being US based at all?

The Headquaters of Apple is in Cupertino California.

That's true, but Apple doesn't really manufacture the phones either. That's subcontracted out. The phones are made by Foxconn/whoever in actuality.
 
RIM cracks into top five makers in the world

In other news...

RIM becomes fourth biggest maker (of any type of phone) in the world

Even though it may feel like Apple is taking the mobile world by storm, the Cupertino-based company doesn’t even crack the top five when it comes to global sales.

A Canadian company, however, has cracked the top five, and that’s none other than Research in Motion.

Which is especially amazing since they only make smartphones.

Research In Motion makes its first appearance among the top five vendors worldwide, with total shipments surpassing those of Motorola by nearly 2 million units.

Research In Motion is the only vendor in the top 5 with a singular focus on smartphones ...

(Of course, they still only sell 10% of what Nokia does.)
 
More about Moto than Apple

This is interesting, but the results say more about the decline of Moto than about Apple. As noted in the article, 4 years ago, Moto sold more than 46 million phones in the first quarter...this means that their current sales are only about 1/5 of what they were just 4 years ago.
 
...They have become the #1 phone supplier in America in just a few short years...

And Motorola has only themselves to blame. Think back a few years before iPhone. Remember the Motorola ROKR? From 2005? No? Can't blame you. (http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/rokr/)

If Motorola hadn't totally botched the ROKR, it might have evolved into something nearly identical to today's iPhone. Motorola would have been king of the smartphone world.

But no. You could see the disgust in Steve Jobs' eyes as he announced the ROKR. It wasn't anything like he wanted it to be, since Motorola wouldn't compromise. And anytime you screw Steve over in a deal, he'll destroy you. Lookin' at YOU, Adobe...
 
go read jack welch's books. happens all the time. you just have to be one step ahead of the commoditization curve and get into the new thing.

when he became CEO, GE used to make clothes irons. he dumped all the businesses that were under risk of being commoditized and look at GE now

Yeah, the new GE that became so much of a finance firm they almost went out of business in the 2008 financial crisis.
 
Yeah, the new GE that became so much of a finance firm they almost went out of business in the 2008 financial crisis.

Not to mention GE products are crap. After moving into a house full of GE kitchen appliances, all ****** (and not their cheap ones either), I wouldn't get a GE appliance if I had a choice (house came with them. Me and my roommate fight over the Sharp microwave we brought from the apartment vs. the crappy GE microwave).
 
What a useless article. Can someone even name more than Motorola and Apple as American based phone suppliers ? So now Apple is 1 of 2 instead of 2 of 2 ?

This is just a fluf piece for the fanboys. In the end, Apple is still very, very far from being number #1 in the market anywhere. :rolleyes:
 
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What a useless article. Can someone even name more than Motorola and Apple as American based phone suppliers ? So now Apple is 1 of 2 instead of 2 of 2 ?

This is just a fluf piece for the fanboys. In the end, Apple is still very, very far from being number #1 in the market anywhere. :rolleyes:

Palm? They're us grown aren't they? :D
 
What a useless article. Can someone even name more than Motorola and Apple as American based phone suppliers ? So now Apple is 1 of 2 instead of 2 of 2 ?

This is just a fluf piece for the fanboys. In the end, Apple is still very, very far from being number #1 in the market anywhere. :rolleyes:

What other american phone makers are there? There are none. And as for this being a Puff piece. It's not. In the american market apple is number one. Now Granted you may be a little biased since its pretty obvious you hate apple. But these are cold hard facts.

So whether you choose to ignore the facts or accept them. Apple will still be the number 1 us supplier and all of the anti-fanboy sentiment will not change that at all.:D
 
In other news...

RIM becomes fourth biggest maker (of any type of phone) in the world



Which is especially amazing since they only make smartphones.



(Of course, they still only sell 10% of what Nokia does.)

Congrats RIM and the reaction to this shows how immature and irrational people are. If it was apple that was in RIM's place with worldwide marketshare this thread would be about 1000 pages.

And all of the irrational anti apple fanboys would come in here and spout all sorts of rants. But since it's RIM it's totally acceptable. And im not hating on RIM but just stating that other companies can have success with no problem.

But when apple is successful the irrational faction comes around and will attempt to discount apple's credit where it is due.
 
Congrats RIM and the reaction to this shows how immature and irrational people are. If it was apple that was in RIM's place with worldwide marketshare this thread would be about 1000 pages.

And all of the irrational anti apple fanboys would come in here and spout all sorts of rants. But since it's RIM it's totally acceptable. And im not hating on RIM but just stating that other companies can have success with no problem.

But when apple is successful the irrational faction comes around and will attempt to discount apple's credit where it is due.
I would imagine that this report can cause all sorts of emotional conflicts, internal and external.

What if you're an Apple fanatic and a patriotic American, should you celebrate that Apple is now #1, or should you mourn the fact that they became #1 by Motorola dropping from 46 million to 9 million units in 4 years? From the "yankees rule!" POV it sounds like a loss.

Anyway... how can Nokia still be #1 by such a wide margin? I can see why they were big in the late 90's and early 2000's when their phones had more breakthrough features and higher quality than everyone else's, but their ugly Symbian-powered bricks haven't interested me in many years.
 
What other american phone makers are there? There are none. And as for this being a Puff piece. It's not. In the american market apple is number one. Now Granted you may be a little biased since its pretty obvious you hate apple. But these are cold hard facts.

That's the point, Apple isn't number 1 in the american market. Not even close. It is a fluff piece. Let's find a very specific metric in which Apple is #1 and headline it as news.

As far as my hating Apple goes... really, no. I love Apple and their Mac line of computers. I just hate dumb reporting like this which ends up in people like you believing things that aren't actually true because you simply read the headline and forget to look at the details.
 
I just hate dumb reporting like this which ends up in people like you believing things that aren't actually true because you simply read the headline and forget to look at the details.

Well Then since you have all of the facts. You tell me who the REAL number one us based phone maker is? :D

After all you seem to have some issue with this. Who is the real US based number one phone maker?
 
I would imagine that this report can cause all sorts of emotional conflicts, internal and external.

What if you're an Apple fanatic and a patriotic American, should you celebrate that Apple is now #1, or should you mourn the fact that they became #1 by Motorola dropping from 46 million to 9 million units in 4 years? From the "yankees rule!" POV it sounds like a loss.

Anyway... how can Nokia still be #1 by such a wide margin? I can see why they were big in the late 90's and early 2000's when their phones had more breakthrough features and higher quality than everyone else's, but their ugly Symbian-powered bricks haven't interested me in many years.


My issue with motorola is the same one i have with sony and some other companies. They don't innovate anymore and they haven't for a long time.

Motorola lost me long ago when i had a MPX 220 smart phone it was a real POS and the ROKR was even worse. Then they pretty much found a good thing in the RAZR and pretty much stopped innovating till they were close to collapsing.

Nokia i'm not sure how they are number one. I figure it has to do with the symbian OS and the way it caught on in europe. I always figured that if the iphone had come out maybe back in 2004 it would have been diffrent as far as who is Number one.

But symbian really isn't that great IMO. Being a patriot doesn't give free passes to companies that trash their legacys. Motorola is part of history but then again so is apple and HP and even IBM.
 
Well Then since you have all of the facts. You tell me who the REAL number one us based phone maker is? :D

After all you seem to have some issue with this. Who is the real US based number one phone maker?

It is Apple. But who cares ? Who's the number #1 estonian based phone maker ? That doesn't mean squat, it ships 2 units per year.

Read this thread, you have people fawning over apple "being #1 supplier of phones in the US" after reading this headline, something which isn't true at all and which the article doesn't even claim.

What are you arguing exactly ? That this is a decent piece of journalism without any sensational headlines thrown in to promote page views ? Please.

Apple isn't the #1 phone supplier in the US. They might be the #1 US based phone supplier, but that doesn't mean squat since their only competition is Motorola, which according to this article, now ships about 400% less units per quarter than 5 years ago.

Again, this article that people are raving about is a big negative piece showing how US phone makers are having problems competing in the market vs other phone makers based in other countries.
 
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