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Apple Beefing Up iPhone and iPad Antenna Engineering Staff
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It happens where weak minds think they have to attack a successful new product and its company by drawing illogical and irrational conclusions and by spreading malicious rumors on sites such as these.
If the design decision was made as much to circumvent the Nokia patents on antennas as reasons of aesthetics, providing a free bumper won't solve the problem. If the (IP) novelty of the antenna is that it's external around the device, that novelty claim is lost if an cover is needed to make the apparatus function properly (even if the customer performs the final assembly). And again Apple would be violating Nokia patents. The revenue of lost bumper sales is peanuts compared to the compensation Apple needs to make to Nokia, not to mention the possibility of Nokia just not licensing the patents to Apple (as antenna patents are not part of the essential patents and need not to be licensed at fair costs).
I fail to see how this has anything to do with the current "issues"
Having worked in recruitment and HR, I doubt very much that they advertised the jobs in response to the issues. This was probably in the pipeline days/weeks or even months in advance.
Proper job descriptions have to be properly explained to relevant HR teams, signed off by managers etc....... sounds simple, but usually time.
Having worked in recruitment and HR, I doubt very much that they advertised the jobs in response to the issues. This was probably in the pipeline days/weeks or even months in advance.
Proper job descriptions have to be properly explained to relevant HR teams, signed off by managers etc....... sounds simple, but usually time.
Ignorance is bliss I guess.... I too have had previous generations of iPhones and did not run into dropped call issues like I am now -- and I'm holding the iphone 4 the exact same way I did all my previous iphones.
Perhaps this issue causes bars to drop on all phones, but I don't care about that -- I'm talking about dropped calls, constant choppy reception, and super slow web browsing... holding the phone as I always have in the exact same environment I happily used my 3G for over a year without issue.
And yes Captain Obvious -- we know that if you touch an antenna, you impede it's ability to function properly, but I don't recall Apple's customers forcing them to put the antenna on the outside of the phone where I'd say at least 50% of people normally hold their phone. That's what you call poor design, and I think it's a fair complaint, not whining.
And I'm returning my phone before the 30 day mark (if it isn't addressed by then), so spare me the "If you don't like it, return it" speech.
I'm keeping my iPhone 4, I refuse to be such a puppet as to draw completely unfounded conclusions based on lame FUD spread on message boards.
Omission of R&D? Please. I guess the overall improved reception that has been independently verified happened by accident.
If you listen to what is spread on these boards you would think the iPhone was completely incapable of making a call and was just magically produced out of thin air with no testing or engineering. Asinine at best.
Edit: I am not in any way saying there isn't an issue with bridging the antennae, however the "completely incapable of making a call" is total BS. I might add, for those of you that are arguing that the antenna on the outside will obviously cause a problem, that this only happens when the antenna is BRIDGED with the other antenna, not just by the mere fact of touching it. If there's a design problem here its that the two antennas can be bridged, not that you can touch them.
I live in Eugene, Oregon and anyone out there that doesn't feel this is an issue -- I'd be more than happy to have you over to my house and you can see it for yourself.. I even have a 3G we can use for comparison.
I don't have to listen to what is spread on these boards, and I think it is ignorant to assume people are blowing this out of proportion because you aren't having any issues, and because there are studies out there that show the reception is better... There are plenty of studies that show it is not better in areas too.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the reception is far from good at my house and I have NEVER had this many dropped or bad calling experiences (choppy) on all of my other iphones combined (3 years total).
I emailed Steve jobs a couple days ago and he responded with "you don't need a case. The iPhone 4 works just fine.
Sent from my iPhone"
yeah right. They knew about this issue before it was released, but it must have been too late in production to do anything about it. I guess my first gen will either have to make it another year or I'll find some sort of clear tape or coating to go over the black strip if I get an iPhone 4.
Sent from my iPhone"
yeah right. They knew about this issue before it was released, but it must have been too late in production to do anything about it. I guess my first gen will either have to make it another year or I'll find some sort of clear tape or coating to go over the black strip if I get an iPhone 4.
Has anyone out there experiencing this issue seen the issue resolved (or made better) with the use of an invisible shield or bodyguardz protector?
I just got my bodyguardz in the mail today, and I'll be applying it this evening - Just wondering if I should have any hope...
Cheers!
I just got my bodyguardz in the mail today, and I'll be applying it this evening - Just wondering if I should have any hope...
Cheers!
See my edit above...
My experience is that I actually now have the ability to make and maintain calls with my iPhone 4 in areas of my house that I could not with my 3G, so as other people have stated there are other factors involved here as well. And no, it is not ignorant to call out someone for making blanket statements that have no basis in reality... statements such as there was no R&D done on the phone or the product is "unable to make phone calls" Yes, people are having issues. No, it's not the majority of people, and no it is not EVERY phone. My point is simply enough with the unfounded blanket statements. And I agree, it is not reasonable to declare that there is no issue based on a single anecdotal experience... and I don't.
Yeah, the hiring managers probably got their headcount months ago, probably at the halfway point of their fiscal year. They wrote the job descriptions, got them approved by HR, then finally appeared a few days/weeks ago. I suspect that half the openings already have final candidates and/or have been filled already and that the public listings are a mere formality.
After all, there are a bunch of Palm engineers probably looking for a change of scenery.
Apple knows that they are shorthanded. This hiring is business as usual, not a reaction to something that came about in the last few days.
Yesterday everyone was bitching because nothing was being done. Now it appears that something is moving forward and people are still bitching. The fanboys may be the thing that brings down Apple.
I liked it better when they just made computers. You iPhonies are a fickle bunch.
Um, maybe because posting for new engineers does NOTHING to solve the problem with the 1.7 million iPhone 4s already sold.
In fact, it PROVES there is an issue which means they are aware of it and want to fix it for the future (yay!) but yet they remain silent for the 1.7 million customers with faulty phones (boo!).
Trying to be patient about this whole ordeal.
I have not ordered an iphone4 as of yet ...but this really sucks big time.
This was going to be my first iphone purchase and now i'm sooo skeptical about product quality and fixes. They probably did penalize their Antenna Engineering Team. Someone got the axe i'm sure...
I'm reading to many manufacturing issues (including brown spots on retina screen) = Red Flags
I think I'm going to wait until there is absolute clearity on these matters...although some iphone4 owners are clearly happy with thier purchase.
I have not ordered an iphone4 as of yet ...but this really sucks big time.
This was going to be my first iphone purchase and now i'm sooo skeptical about product quality and fixes. They probably did penalize their Antenna Engineering Team. Someone got the axe i'm sure...
I'm reading to many manufacturing issues (including brown spots on retina screen) = Red Flags
I think I'm going to wait until there is absolute clearity on these matters...although some iphone4 owners are clearly happy with thier purchase.
Just ordered it!! Thanks -- I believe this is the ultimate solution!
right. i'm sure he is quite nervous.
also, i nominate this for the stupidest post ever on macrumors, which is saying something. just absolute retardation. obviously.
oh wait, we have another contender! that someone would even consider this as a reason to not get the phone is complete nonsense.
we have a phone with the best reception of any iphone, with a problem that MANY people don't have AT ALL, and the ones that do it is very, very minor from what i can tell.
to look at this antenna problem and use that as the deciding factor against buying iphone4... is really, really, really stupid.
to co-opt your asinine example... it's like finding the best car in the world, and then not buying it because a couple people tell you that maybe sometimes the glove compartment doesn't open all the way, maybe, they think, possibly.
this is one of the most ridiculous threads i've ever seen on here. you'd think the phone was nothing but problems from all the over-reaction on here.
people agreeing that the "entire iphone 4 team was fired?" are you people really that ****ing stupid?
this is what i'm talking about. product quality? you mean on the highest quality iphone ever made? THOSE quality problems?
or the brown spots that immediately went away?
or the "bad" antenna that gets the best reception of any iphone ever?
i seriously question your ability to read and comprehend information in a rational way. and your decision making skills must really, really suck. really.
the variation of these things IS curious.
that your phone could be so much worse than your 3G, and mine could be so much better.
what's the variable?
i don't have your problems, and a VAST number of users don't have your problems. so why do you have your problems?
I have the iPhone4 and I have to really try to get the signal to drop. I basically have to wrap both my hands around the entire phone inorder for it to start dropping. While I don't NEED the bumper, I did buy it for 2 reasons.
1. To protect my investment. (i've dropped my 2 previous iPhones and cracked the glass both times without a case)
2. Avoid loss of signal on the rare occurrence where I bear hug my phone.
I know other people have a bigger issue with the phone's antena, but here in North County San Diego i'm not experiencing it.
Also, I love the bumper and it makes it much harder to drop the phone. ( it also makes it slightly more difficult to get it out of your pocket )
1. To protect my investment. (i've dropped my 2 previous iPhones and cracked the glass both times without a case)
2. Avoid loss of signal on the rare occurrence where I bear hug my phone.
I know other people have a bigger issue with the phone's antena, but here in North County San Diego i'm not experiencing it.
Also, I love the bumper and it makes it much harder to drop the phone. ( it also makes it slightly more difficult to get it out of your pocket
)
Heh, I don't think "omission" of R&D was the problem. It looks more like R&D overload to me. They drifted deep into some weird alternate universe where a phone that you can't hold like all other phones is acceptable. That's a sign of having worked for too long on something and losing touch with reality.