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If i buy apps in the online store will i be able to save them on dvd's, in case i need to reinstall all software on my computer, or will they just let me download it again for free?

You should be using Time Machine, or some other backup software... Unless you enjoy the prospect of having to reinstall all your apps, and redo all your documents, many of which probably can't be redone...
 
Just hope there isn't the race to the bottom in terms of pricing.... maybe good for the customer in the very short term but long term, may turn off developers from Mac platform.

I think we've seen from the iPad that developers have learnt their lesson on that one. By all means introduce sales but price higher to start with so you don't end up with this stupid view amongst users that 59p is the standard price point.

Actually, I think we'll see that change over the next couple of years as companies start delivering more and more high profile, ultra-polished games that look more like high end console titles. Take Infinity Blade (the new Epic game) for instance, that's going to be priced high and it WILL sell even if only for the graphics (hopefully there's a game attached too). The cheap stuff will still be there but we'll see acceptance of a higher price point for the big brands.
 
Dont think so - it will probably be the same deal as AppStore

free -> 90% junk
99c -> 85% junk
....

It still will be: you get what you pay for (exceptions apply)

Also look what happend when iPad apps came along: they got more expensive than comparable iPhone apps .... Don't think we will have a permanent 'sale' for Mac apps.

Yep, the only difference is it'll probably force companies to charge as low as they're willing to go for their apps, because their product will be put side by side with their competitors' products. That's also a good point. Companies that don't put their software on the app store will be at a disadvantage because some of their competitors will, and some people will figure that it's much easier to just get the product in the app store. I imagine this being successful.
 
My fanciful notion of the day...

When you go the Apple online store today and do a BTO today, you can choose to have iWork, Office and some other software pre-installed.

Imagine being able to do the same thing with hooks into the Mac Apps store and have your computer come pre-loaded with every piece of software you want!
 
Same reason they give more than 30% to most of the other retailers that they deal with. Exposure. And don't underestimate the importance of minimizing the number of steps between a developer and a customer's money.

I don't think big name software like Microsoft Office or Adobe Photoshop suffers from a lack of exposure.
 
+1 Many companies have their software available for download right on their website like the little app factory. All the user does it purchase the license directly from the site. What part of that is not profit for the software company? The Mac app store makes Apple the middle man. Why would a larger developer need Apple for advertisement?

So you think that places like amazon, bestbuy and Apple Retail Stores sell their software for full price without taking a cut, as a favour :D
 
Why App Store?

I keep seeing posts asking what would a big developer firm need with an App store? Well, they don't. The attraction with the App store appeals to the smaller developers. Apple gave them another avenue to market their software. Apple lowered the barriers to competition, and is helping to encourage diversity in the market space the developers are in.

This is only great news for consumers.
 
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This'll be absolutely huge. Unprecedented exposure for developers. The App Store phenomenon brought to the Mac. There's a good chance the Mac will be the most lucrative computing platform to develop for. Actually, in time there might be little difference between the iPad and the Mac, so it's all the same.

Of course, Microsoft will want to take notes and follow suit.
 
I think we've seen from the iPad that developers have learnt their lesson on that one. By all means introduce sales but price higher to start with so you don't end up with this stupid view amongst users that 59p is the standard price point.

Actually, I think we'll see that change over the next couple of years as companies start delivering more and more high profile, ultra-polished games that look more like high end console titles. Take Infinity Blade (the new Epic game) for instance, that's going to be priced high and it WILL sell even if only for the graphics (hopefully there's a game attached too). The cheap stuff will still be there but we'll see acceptance of a higher price point for the big brands.

I hope so!

All the top ten iPhone apps are 0.99, whereas avg selling price of top ten iPad apps is $4.79
 
Well, yah, obviously not everything is going to be allowed, but what I meant was, if it isn't using one of OS X's built-in frameworks, it wont be accepted, and carbon apps might not be accepted. Last i heard, carbon isn't deprecated, but you can't develop 64 bit apps with it, and i'd imagine more limitations are going to come over time, so developing a new app in carbon at this point is ridiculous, and I wouldn't blame apple if they tried to "encourage" switching to cocoa.

Carbon is a built-in framework. The store rules (which are available to all developers and have been posted on the internet) don't say anything about Carbon. They don't say anything about 64 bit. And who is talking about new apps?
 
Will this make piracy less of a problem for Mac developers? If so, that is going to be the major reason why they'll go with the App store.
 
An Additional $100?

An additional $100 to submit to the Mac App store...what a rip. If you're already an iOS developer you shouldn't have to pay anything extra..come'on Apple stop being so cheap.
 
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Completely disagree. I think long term this will change the way people buy software. Short term it might be slow to catch on, but eventually people will look on the Mac App Store first, then other retail channels second.

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Already happening:)

Why would I buy any software at full retail? Online MacMall, Amazon , Newegg etc. usually hav edeals.

And at Retail who knows if they hav eth elatest version anyway?

Download is best IMO
Then online
Brick and mortar would be my last resort
 
I'm okay with this new store by Apple. My only fear is that in 5-10 years they tell us that this is the ONLY way to get apps on your Mac.

Where is this all headed I wonder?
 
My prediction

I really have NO idea how this experiment is going to go. On one hand, I think we'll have a whole new class of "dumbed down" Angry bird apps for our Macs. On the other hand, companies like Adobe and Microsoft have to give Apple 30% of their revenue in order to be on the Mac app store (which is a loss for them because they don't need the aditional exposure). I feel like we'll eventually have two classes of software for the Mac: 1) "Apps" and 2) "Pro applications." The former will be carried in the app store, the latter will not. Just my prediction...
 
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New icon look

Since the icon to log into the Mac App Store looks like the new iTunes icon, my guess is the icons in Mac OS X "Lion" will look like this. It makes sense because Apple is merging iOS and OS X so the icons need to have the same-but-different look. Round icons for OS X apps and square icons for iOS apps to make it easy to tell which type of application is in the dock.
 
+1 Many companies have their software available for download right on their website like the little app factory. All the user does it purchase the license directly from the site. What part of that is not profit for the software company? The Mac app store makes Apple the middle man. Why would a larger developer need Apple for advertisement?

Maybe because my Mom already has an iTunes store account and is not very computer literate? She's not going to go trolling around 30 different sites and doing Google searches to find what she needs especially when she isn't even sure. This will put it all right in front of her and make it simple for her to buy. She won't have to set up an account at each site she wants to buy from or create a PayPal account. Jeez...you act like Apple is personally insulting you by doing this but it's going to be great for a lot of people. Not everyone is as smart as you think you are.
 
Completely disagree. I think long term this will change the way people buy software. Short term it might be slow to catch on, but eventually people will look on the Mac App Store first, then other retail channels second.

Ethan[/QUOTE]

Already happening:)

Why would I buy any software at full retail? Online MacMall, Amazon , Newegg etc. usually hav edeals.

And at Retail who knows if they hav eth elatest version anyway?

Download is best IMO
Then online
Brick and mortar would be my last resort[/QUOTE]

Wow. Amazon, MacMall, NewEgg ARE retail. Jeez! You think they sell stuff for free just to help out other companies?! Retail does not mean a physical store. They all take their cut.
 
You should be using Time Machine, or some other backup software... Unless you enjoy the prospect of having to reinstall all your apps, and redo all your documents, many of which probably can't be redone...

It will allow you to reinstall your Apps. That much is known as it was announced at the press event.
 
The App Store will likely work and big companies will place their software on it (but I don't think Apple will accept them, the terms look very restrictive). The big comapnies will just raise their price as way around giving a Apple 30% cut. Funny thing is, since its Apple-related and many people are not computer-savvy, there will be plenty of people who will pay these inflated prices.

I just have a feeling that the Mac App Store is going to dilute the quality of Mac applications. We're gonna plenty of crap fill it up, like clocks, calculators, and period calendars.

And how is Apple going to stop people from pirating their Mac Apps (by using an Installous-type application). Right now, the vast majority of people don't use Installous because you need a JB iPhone/iPod/iPad and the vast majority of iDevices are not JB. However, with a Mac, it's already "jailbroken", so what's to stop people from developing an Installous-type and having the masses use it? Morality?
 
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