This would be the SE 4, or most likely just the iPhone SE, 2025 model.
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Apple Begins Discontinuing iPhone SE and iPhone 14 in EU Ahead of USB-C Requirement
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This would be the SE 4, or most likely just the iPhone SE, 2025 model.
We'll survive even without idevices... don't worry.
Doubtful. From my experience Apple usually just pulls them the night before the new models are put out; unless they plan to keep it but a cheaper se when it already is at the low end makes no sense.
They're both old models up for a refresh anyway so Apple already scheduled no more further production as soon as the law was passed.
So no eWaste as Apple has a very lean inventory system.
Just buy her another current model iPhone SE keep it in the closet until she needs it replaced. They're largely unwanted by the market so it'll be offered discounted.
Very unusual reading of the law indeed, I’ll believe it when I see it as it would leave a huge hole in the Apple value lineup. Unless SE4 is due in January discontinuing lightning port stuff now makes no sense as they are already launched and by my understanding able to be sold in the EU until they are taken off sale by being discontinued.
The Swiss Apple Store online still lists a 14 but I couldn’t tell if it was able to be bought at time of checking.
This is before we even mention the UK and Ireland. If Republic of Ireland being EU was withdrawing lightning phones from sale where does that leave retailers in Belfast (for example) who are in the Northern Ireland Protocol (which involves EU single market and customs rules) but also in the UK (not in the EU) which according to this article wouldn’t be removing lightning phones from sale?
It would be much tidier to remove lightning phones from sale when the SE4 comes along.
This is a scam of an article. At least the title is. This is not how laws and regulations work.
Usually the law usually is applied forewordly, not rectroactively. Meaning that, new device models that come to the market need to be in compliance, otherwise um they aren’t approved for sale. Devices models that came to market when the law was different, don’t need to be updated to keep being marketed. Nothing in the regulation states that current devices being marked that do not comply with the law are banned regardless if such compliance is feasible or not.
The decision to discontinue the sale of these devices has absolutely nothing to do with the regulation and the letter of the law. Is purely an economic decision spidered entirely by Apple alone. If the law was different, they would be making the same decision.
Apple needs to stop buying the press to spread false information against governmental institutions. The buck of reality distortion field really stops with the law. It does not inspire confidence in the company has far as customers are concerned.
Cheers
PS: Retailers with iPhone SE and 14 in stock will keep on selling long after … until stocks end. If they still were being produced they would keep on selling them as these devices came to market before the regulations are in acted. Totally in compliance with the law.
Usually the law usually is applied forewordly, not rectroactively. Meaning that, new device models that come to the market need to be in compliance, otherwise um they aren’t approved for sale. Devices models that came to market when the law was different, don’t need to be updated to keep being marketed. Nothing in the regulation states that current devices being marked that do not comply with the law are banned regardless if such compliance is feasible or not.
The decision to discontinue the sale of these devices has absolutely nothing to do with the regulation and the letter of the law. Is purely an economic decision spidered entirely by Apple alone. If the law was different, they would be making the same decision.
Apple needs to stop buying the press to spread false information against governmental institutions. The buck of reality distortion field really stops with the law. It does not inspire confidence in the company has far as customers are concerned.
Cheers
PS: Retailers with iPhone SE and 14 in stock will keep on selling long after … until stocks end. If they still were being produced they would keep on selling them as these devices came to market before the regulations are in acted. Totally in compliance with the law.
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On a somewhat unrelated sidenote, is there a reason why we don’t see more television sets with usb-c ports?
My portable monitor comes with a usb-c port that I can connect to my nintendo switch via a 4.0 cable, which provides both power and display and basically does away with the need for a dedicated port.
Won’t be it cool if televisions could do the same thing as well? Why are we all still sticking with HDMI again?
EU, can you please do something about this as well?
My portable monitor comes with a usb-c port that I can connect to my nintendo switch via a 4.0 cable, which provides both power and display and basically does away with the need for a dedicated port.
Won’t be it cool if televisions could do the same thing as well? Why are we all still sticking with HDMI again?
EU, can you please do something about this as well?
I think it has to do with the TV being that big and USB-A dominating USB flash drives.On a somewhat unrelated sidenote, is there a reason why we don’t see more television sets with usb-c ports?
My portable monitor comes with a usb-c port that I can connect to my nintendo switch via a 4.0 cable, which provides both power and display and basically does away with the need for a dedicated port.
Won’t be it cool if televisions could do the same thing as well? Why are we all still sticking with HDMI again?
EU, can you please do something about this as well?
Adding a USB-C port would be useful but would add cost to manufacturing.
What I'd love to see is the elimination of legacy I/O on TV like
- RCA
- component
- composite
- s-video
- antenna
- VGA
- DVI
If need be provide dongles as an add on.
And just have HDMI, USB-C and USB-A 10Gbps. No need for for DisplayPort as that could be accommodated with USB-C.
Fully agree. A number of users find those to be excellent tools and would like them to remain. So called "progress" will remove them
It isn’t retrospective, but it covers any product that is put on the market for the first time. And this means when they are sold for the first time.
So essentially Apple can’t sell them to anyone after December 28th, but any retailers that purchased them from Apple and had them delivered before December 28th can sell them.
Not clear in this article by Macrumors is whether the UK will continue to get these products or will they be forced by Apple to conform to their decision to remove these devices in the EU, since I am pretty sure this is nothing to do with the EU regulations on the use of USB C charging interfaces (see my comments below).
The other interesting thing here is I thought the regulations applied to newly introduced products and not existing products. I read opinions that have said new products only and others that say all products thus making obsolete vast swaths of products including cameras, mosquito repellent devices etc. etc. since this directive would apply to the mini USB connector as well if that were true. I am pretty sure that this charging interface requirement applies to newly introduced products only.
I am also intrigued to know whether Apple have pulled all Lightning connector based products from the stores eg. Mouse and Keyboard. I know there are USB C versions but there must be inventory of the older versions.
I personally have no problem with Lightning charger interfaces. They work well and are very reliable. The USB C connectors have not shown themselves to be so reliable and robust for me. Try trying to insert a USB C plug into a socket in the dark and compare to Lightning plugs which I find much much easier.
The other interesting thing here is I thought the regulations applied to newly introduced products and not existing products. I read opinions that have said new products only and others that say all products thus making obsolete vast swaths of products including cameras, mosquito repellent devices etc. etc. since this directive would apply to the mini USB connector as well if that were true. I am pretty sure that this charging interface requirement applies to newly introduced products only.
I am also intrigued to know whether Apple have pulled all Lightning connector based products from the stores eg. Mouse and Keyboard. I know there are USB C versions but there must be inventory of the older versions.
I personally have no problem with Lightning charger interfaces. They work well and are very reliable. The USB C connectors have not shown themselves to be so reliable and robust for me. Try trying to insert a USB C plug into a socket in the dark and compare to Lightning plugs which I find much much easier.
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Apple is in it for the money. That’s why they kowtow to China, the EU and now Cook is running to kiss trump’s ring at maralago.
OF course, They exist to make a profit for the shareholders.
Cook has to deal with the government in place, and frankly, given Trumps trade stances, flattering him to want to retaliate against the EU for perceived attacks on US companies such as Apple to get the EU to back down is in Apple's best interests.
I suspect that was so companies couldn't introduce a new model just before teh deadline and then sell it for a few years. I also think Apple had planned to move to USB-C, based on what was happening to their other devices and Apple's historical actions in regards to connections, the EU may or may not have moved that timeline up a bit.
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If they had made it an on-screen home button, I would feel that that would have been a waste of space on the screen. Many of us are extremely happy with the added screen real estate. You are obviously free to have a different preference, along with other people. If there are enough of you, Apple will continue to cater to you.
For those curious about the March 2025 iPhone SE that will be out in 4 months time check out the rumors.
I hope it continues with the tradition of keeping to a $429 price point.
I hope it continues with the tradition of keeping to a $429 price point.
I would like them to add a Touch ID capability to one of the buttons and still keep FaceID. That way, those that like it can use FaceID while those who prefer a bit more security could use Touch ID instead of constantly entering a password or passcode.
It will be interesting to see what and when (and if) a new SE comes out.
Most of my family members could get buy with what is rumored just fine. 90% of their pictures just use the main lens anyway so having just one, at a good price point would be a good tradeoff.
I believe that that is what was being hoped for, by at least those who do not like / cannot work with FaceID. We will see if that ever happens. I have at least one friend who might replace his phone when that happens.
The EU has allowed for updates as technology evolves. As standards evolve and new ones get written manufacturers and the EU will move to them as well.