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so technically, you should just spec the base graphics cards to keep initial outlay down and worse case just buy this if you need it in the future?
 
No Display Port which means FreeSync would potentially be capped at 75hz on a 1080p monitor (from AMD's site).

This enclosure is useless.
I think the new HDMI 2.1 supports 4k freezync, Now even it was capped if it could do 4k at 75 that would be pretty good, sure no cap would be better
[doublepost=1531422315][/doublepost]I wonder if eGPUs can use low end or mid end MacBooks, that way you save on money, and you can just run these to run games on giant external monitors. This is assuming 8th gen comes to the MacBook
 
Will this work with a G4 Cube? I don't have one, but still, I am very curious.

Ummmmm.....
Let’s think this through, shall we?
Does the G4 Cube have a TB3 connection to plug it in? No.
Does it have TB2 connection so you could use an adapter & use it at a lower speed? No.
Does it have USB3 or even USB2 to connect, were that even an option (which it is NOT)? No.
Does it support 2018’s macOS “Mojave”, necessary to run an eGPU? No. (topped out w/ 2005’s OS X “Tiger”)

So- a resounding no, all the way around.
 
I wonder how this will work with new mac mini?
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I think this refers to USB power...
The 85W is what it takes to power a MacBook Pro, so with one cable you can have eGPU acceleration, power, HDMI output, daisy chaining another Thunderbolt 3 device, and use USB-A ports. Pretty incredible!
 
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$699.00 for an AMD 580? Ouch. Hard to justify over an iMac, unless you absolutely need a mobile workstation that’s dockable. Fewer dongles with an iMac as well...

Either way, still sitting here impatiently waiting for this new Mac Pro.
GPUs are still pretty expensive. The RX 580 started at $230, but the best I've seen it recently is around $300 and I've seen it around $500 as well. I'm not entirely defending the price of that eGPU, but GPUs are still pretty expensive. And enclosures themselves usually cost around $300.
 
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God, Apple hardware is pitiful. $700 for a GPU that costs under $300... so $400 for a case? The thing is garbage too, makes more sense to get a Nvidia 1070 which consumes less power and runs faster.
 



Apple.com today gained a new and exclusive external GPU aimed at the MacBook Pro, called the Blackmagic eGPU. According to TechCrunch, the unit's appearance exclusively on Apple's website comes in the wake of a partnership between the two companies as Apple aims to widen the eGPU market after launching support for eGPUs this past spring.

Running for $699.00, the Blackmagic eGPU provides desktop-class graphics performance on a MacBook Pro, through a Radeon Pro 580 graphics processor with 8GB of GDDR5 memory. The accessory connects via Thunderbolt 3, includes two Thunderbolt 3 ports, four USB 3.0 ports, one HDMI 2.0 port, and 85W power delivery. A Thunderbolt 3 cable also comes in the box.

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With external GPUs, users can take advantage of smoother gaming experiences, boost graphics-intensive app workflows, enable virtual reality experiences, and even build VR content. Apple leaned into virtual reality as a selling point of eGPUs following the announcement of eGPU support at WWDC 2017, offering eGPU enclosures to developers who want to work on graphically intensive VR applications and games that run on macOS.

Those interested can purchase the Blackmagic eGPU today for $699.00, and the first units are expected to arrive in two days, on Saturday, July 14. Order pickup is also available at nearby Apple retail stores.

Article Link: Apple Begins Exclusively Selling 'Blackmagic eGPU' for $699, Aimed at New MacBook Pros
[doublepost=1531425547][/doublepost]Yes, PLEASE give us an Nvidia GPU. In my area of science, structural biology, most people use Macs but we all need CUDA support to do serious work. Please, please give us a 1080Ti or some such!!!
 
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The ignorance of IT hardware still in 2018 complaining about this price is staggering. The 2TB3/4USB3 ports, 85W USB power and HDMI 2.0 certified with OS X and Metal 2 API hastle free is well worth this price.
 
This is outstanding!! Have been waiting since the start of the year for an egpu to support the LG 5K displays. Will buy one now!! What a great deal! No other egpu enclosure have dual TB3 ports (one connected to the graphics card) hopefully in time card manufacturers get with times and drop the display port connection and adopt TB3!!
 
People saying “this box is useless, <product> is better” obviously aren’t stuck wanting to connect their Ultrafine 5K to an eGPU but nothing else on the market has TB3 outputs.
 
Ok, now make one with nVidia so I can use cuda like a normal modern person uses.
Nope, Nvidia is terrible at Mac drivers. AMD shines. Cuda is still widely popular but only works with Nvidia. Radeon is retaking the market, strategically has better mid and mid-high range, better eGPU support, better Linux and macOS support. in Mac land, Metal will become more important every year, Cuda will become less important. Blame Nvidia for terrible metal and macOS drivers. eGPU are Radeon based, also on Windows thanks to XConnect.
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Dumb. And useless. :D
You are just trolling. eGPU is an incredible handy tech for PROs, high end users and gamers too. Power, dedicated GPU, connectivity with one cable. I get 6x performance thanks to eGPU.
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God, Apple hardware is pitiful. $700 for a GPU that costs under $300... so $400 for a case? The thing is garbage too, makes more sense to get a Nvidia 1070 which consumes less power and runs faster.
It runs quite similar ut has better performance in Metal and OpenCL. Also macOS drivers are very good, compared to Nvidia. Yes eGPU box cost quite a lot, but it is like having PCI express eternal, you need ventilation, power delivery and also gives you many port and connectivity. It is not for everyone, but calling trash a really great solution is ap roof you don't understand its use our you are close minded "Nvidia only" which is not true since more than a year. And even if you are blind Nvidia fan, sadly you should blame them.
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They all can, apparently, but you need to hack some .plists and it’s finicky.
You mean OpenGL or forcing everything. Metal and OpenCl accelerate any display by default.
 
The ignorance of IT hardware still in 2018 complaining about this price is staggering. The 2TB3/4USB3 ports, 85W USB power and HDMI 2.0 certified with OS X and Metal 2 API hastle free is well worth this price.

Dudes with too much time looking at charts and FPS benchmarks on YouTube tech-boi channels …

Unless it plays Overwatch at 200FPS it is garbage, ya know?
 
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Ummmmm.....
Let’s think this through, shall we?
Does the G4 Cube have a TB3 connection to plug it in? No.
Does it have TB2 connection so you could use an adapter & use it at a lower speed? No.
Does it have USB3 or even USB2 to connect, were that even an option (which it is NOT)? No.
Does it support 2018’s macOS “Mojave”, necessary to run an eGPU? No. (topped out w/ 2005’s OS X “Tiger”)

So- a resounding no, all the way around.

You're right. I will just take my business elsewhere. Thanks.
 
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Is this better than the one inside the current 27" iMac since it has GDDR5 memory? iMac has DDR4 right?

Would this work to drive the LG 4K Ultrafine display?
 
one thing that always bugged me... can these egpu use the macbook display, or they require an external monitor? if the latter... meh.
External monitor only.
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You can plug it right into your MBP without the use of an external monitor.
Are you sure? Someone on one of these forums told me external only, which would prevent me from using it with my iMac.
 



Apple.com today gained a new and exclusive external GPU aimed at the MacBook Pro, called the Blackmagic eGPU. According to TechCrunch, the unit's appearance exclusively on Apple's website comes in the wake of a partnership between the two companies as Apple aims to widen the eGPU market after launching support for eGPUs this past spring.

Running for $699.00, the Blackmagic eGPU provides desktop-class graphics performance on a MacBook Pro, through a Radeon Pro 580 graphics processor with 8GB of GDDR5 memory. The accessory connects via Thunderbolt 3, includes two Thunderbolt 3 ports, four USB 3.0 ports, one HDMI 2.0 port, and 85W power delivery. A Thunderbolt 3 cable also comes in the box.

blackmagic-egpu.jpg

With external GPUs, users can take advantage of smoother gaming experiences, boost graphics-intensive app workflows, enable virtual reality experiences, and even build VR content. Apple leaned into virtual reality as a selling point of eGPUs following the announcement of eGPU support at WWDC 2017, offering eGPU enclosures to developers who want to work on graphically intensive VR applications and games that run on macOS.

Those interested can purchase the Blackmagic eGPU today for $699.00, and the first units are expected to arrive in two days, on Saturday, July 14. Order pickup is also available at nearby Apple retail stores.

Article Link: Apple Begins Exclusively Selling 'Blackmagic eGPU' for $699, Aimed at New MacBook Pros

Meanwhile for $700, I got an MSI gaming laptop with a GTX 1050, which surpasses the eGPU's performance in every way. It even has USB-A ports, an SD card reader, USB-C, and an Ethernet port for low latency! Don't even get me started on the wonderful keyboard which gives satisfying feedback when typing! :)

Apple is just milking you users. When will you realise that? There is a PC or laptop for every kind of user. Take the leap and you will find that you were being fed lies by Apple.
(Pardon grammatical errors, if any. Non-native English speaker).
 
Nope, Nvidia is terrible at Mac drivers. AMD shines. Cuda is still widely popular but only works with Nvidia. Radeon is retaking the market, strategically has better mid and mid-high range, better eGPU support, better Linux and macOS support. in Mac land, Metal will become more important every year, Cuda will become less important. Blame Nvidia for terrible metal and macOS drivers. eGPU are Radeon based, also on Windows thanks to XConnect.
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You are just trolling. eGPU is an incredible handy tech for PROs, high end users and gamers too. Power, dedicated GPU, connectivity with one cable. I get 6x performance thanks to eGPU.
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It runs quite similar ut has better performance in Metal and OpenCL. Also macOS drivers are very good, compared to Nvidia. Yes eGPU box cost quite a lot, but it is like having PCI express eternal, you need ventilation, power delivery and also gives you many port and connectivity. It is not for everyone, but calling trash a really great solution is ap roof you don't understand its use our you are close minded "Nvidia only" which is not true since more than a year. And even if you are blind Nvidia fan, sadly you should blame them.
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You mean OpenGL or forcing everything. Metal and OpenCl accelerate any display by default.
I think this is a fair analysis. Recall, for Pro's (whatever that means---I know it's not me), this is an incredibly versatile solution for the problem of a lack of Mac Pro or other high end hardware.
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Meanwhile for $700, I got an MSI gaming laptop with a GTX 1050, which surpasses the eGPU's performance in every way. It even has USB-A ports, an SD card reader, USB-C, and an Ethernet port for low latency! Don't even get me started on the wonderful keyboard which gives satisfying feedback when typing! :)

Apple is just milking you users. When will you realise that? There is a PC or laptop for every kind of user. Take the leap and you will find that you were being fed lies by Apple.
(Pardon grammatical errors, if any. Non-native English speaker).
Many of us dislike Windows. Personally, I use a Mac for the software and interoperability with iOS devices. Because of that, Windows is a non-starter for me.
 
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2016 and above.
it like all other thunderolt 3 e-gpus that work with mac will work with any thunderbolt mac 2011+ if you use the thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter.
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Will this work at all with a 2015 MBP? The throttling issues with the M370X are insane and even being limited by Thunderbolt2 will be better than that.

edit: answer is "no".

yes it will, you will need the apple thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter like any other Thunderbolt3 e-gpu.
both nvidia and AMD cards work as for the bandwidth constraint on thunderbolt 2 for example gaming its about double what it is on thunderbolt 3 (compared the native gpu in a desktop eg. cheesegrater or hackintosh) on internal display.

on a external display Thunderbolt2 & Thunderbolt3 are close to identical performers heck Thunderbolt1 is only slightly worse externally (TB1 on internal display is unusable though)
outside of gaming ive had no issues with CUDA support on Thunderbolt1 or Thunderbolt2 devices.

currently talking to you on a 2015 MBP with a gtx1080


so much misinformation on these forums about e-GPU's, if your curious i'd recommend checking out the eGPU.IO forums, i imagine people will post about this specific eGPU soon, but even see other people's senerios now will give you a idea in the meantime
 
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