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Apple Begins Recruiting Engineers in Taiwan for Various Positions

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Last week, it was reported that Apple was looking to open a research and development center in Taiwan focused on technology for future iPhones, but at the time no such positions had been posted to Apple's jobs website.

But as noted today by Digitimes, Apple has over the past week been adding job postings for hardware engineering positions in Taipei engineers in Taiwan for various purposes. The report also indicates that Apple may establish a maintenance center in the country.
Apple has recently started hiring engineers in Taiwan and has posted positions such as senior packaging engineer, reliability engineering manager, senior software instrumentation engineer, senior AC-DC design engineer and sensing system hardware engineer on its website.

Apple is reportedly planning to establish an R&D team in Taiwan to develop products such as iPhone and has already attracted the attention of many IT engineers in Taiwan. Some market watchers even speculate that Apple may also establish a maintenance center for after-sales services.
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The article also mentions that Taiwan is a favorable place for Apple to hire engineers because of high skill and low labor costs, and Apple already has favorable relationships with technology manufacturers in the country such as Foxconn Electronics and Pegatron Technology. It is also a possibility that Apple will form partnerships with other companies in the region such as Wistron and Compal Communications to lower costs and diversify production, according to the article.

Earlier this week, Digitimes also reported that Apple would be sending engineers to Taiwanese packaging firm Xintec to help increase the yield rate for fingerprint sensors to be used in the iPhone 5S, which is reported to be limited to 3-4 million units in Q3 2013 because of a shortage.

Apple will reportedly unveil the next-generation iPhone on September 10, but it is still unclear whether the event will focus singularly on the iPhone 5S or also include the announcement of the rumored low-cost iPhone.

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Experts in making boxes?

Perhaps that's needed after seeing the disaster that is the late 2012 iMac box. It's so complicated it practically seems like it was designed so you'd break your iMac when unboxing or reboxing it.
 
If their products currently have the tag line "Designed in California," will they change that to Taipei? No! My guess is that the engineering work that will be done is at a much lower level. The stuff a consumer sees is still done by Jony in California. BTW -- that is in the USA in case you are wondering ;-)
 
Cuban Missles said:
If their products currently have the tag line "Designed in California," will they change that to Taipei? No! My guess is that the engineering work that will be done is at a much lower level. The stuff a consumer sees is still done by Jony in California. BTW -- that is in the USA in case you are wondering ;-)
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What are you talking about?
Jony Ive isn't an engineer. He's an artist. True, the drawing is done in America, but the high-level engineering is done by Asians in America and Asians overseas. :cool:
 
If U.S. labor regulations and mandated fees were 30% less onerous, like they were about 10-15 years ago or so, we would not be exporting near-ly as many jobs, factories, and industrial capacity. The rules, regulations, and fees matter. They incentivize businesses of all sizes to seek ever lower "cost" means of production. Even if the most important costs on the margin are non-monetary.

Partisan D cite:
http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Economy/Small-Biz-Owners-Say-Job-Exports-Not-Regs-Problem
"Bi-Partisan" cite:
http://www.ctj.org/html/runaway.htm
Politically neutral cite:
http://importexport.about.com/od/SuccessStories/a/14-Incentives-For-Importing-Exporting.htm

Takeaway: It's all about politics. Apple is just conforming to the world they find before them. Change the rules, change the behaviors. Apple is behaving rationally and is hiring talent where they have production capacity to employ it. Good networking requires physical as well as virtual closeness.

Rocketman

Yes Jony is an engineer as well as an artist. An industrial engineer. BTW he is a Brit.
 
xlii said:
This is just the beginning of the end of Apple Engineering being done in the USA.
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Apple never did much engineering, though.
The tech used in Apple products came from manufacturers. Apple only hires checklist engineers to ensure all the components are in the right place. That's why their R&D budget is so low.
 
SteveJobsLover1 said:
What are you talking about?
Jony Ive isn't an engineer. He's an artist. True, the drawing is done in America, but the high-level engineering is done by Asians in America and Asians overseas. :cool:
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Wow I didn't know Bob Mansfield was Asian. :eek:
 
Michaelgtrusa said:
More jobs overseas! No big news here unless the jobs are stateside.
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Yes and no. Apple hires lots of US engineers as well, but the market for US-based engineers keeps getting tighter and tighter. It's great for people like me who are engineers, but it makes hiring very hard, especially if you need a lot of engineers (yes, even if you're Apple).
 
Rogifan said:
Wow I didn't know Bob Mansfield was Asian. :eek:
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Bob Mansfield is an executive (AKA front office). Front desk workers aren't a valid indication of the kind of workers a company has. Most American companies pick white people to be executives of their company, as most people in this country are white. It's purely a PR move to avoid looking like an "Asian company", which would hurt their bottom line.
The real work is done by Asians and a few whites. They're back-office workers and aren't seen by the public.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_22094415/asian-workers-now-dominate-silicon-valley-tech-jobs

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FWRLCK said:
Yes and no. Apple hires lots of US engineers as well, but the market for US-based engineers keeps getting tighter and tighter. It's great for people like me who are engineers, but it makes hiring very hard, especially if you need a lot of engineers (yes, even if you're Apple).
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Well, most US engineers aren't exactly high-skilled. Their jobs require a 4-year engineering degree, but they're relegated to remedial "checklist" jobs. The true engineering is done by manufacturers like Samsung, and they're mostly overseas.
 
It's the center they plan to open.
They need supply chain management in that area of the world.

It's for working on their packaging at TSMC (chips) and managing their suppliers, etc.
Not new.. Not even interesting.
 
techwhiz said:
It's the center they plan to open.
They need supply chain management in that area of the world.

It's for working on their packaging at TSMC (chips) and managing their suppliers, etc.
Not new.. Not even interesting.
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Senior AC-DC design engineer

Yeah, seems like a supply chain job. :D
 
Michaelgtrusa said:
More jobs overseas! No big news here unless the jobs are stateside.
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Hmm...I just did a search on Apple's website and they have over 600 open positions for hardware and software engineering roles. Of those, only 78 are outside the USA. Google currently has 50 open engineering positions outside the USA; Microsoft over 500.
 
Rogifan said:
Hmm...I just did a search on Apple's website and they have over 600 open positions for hardware and software engineering roles. Of those, only 78 are outside the USA. Google currently has 50 open engineering positions outside the USA; Microsoft over 500.
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600 total positions.
78 outside the USA.
500 of the remaining goes to Asians living in the USA.
Americans can have the leftovers. :cool:
 
SteveJobsLover1 said:
Bob Mansfield is an executive (AKA front office). Front desk workers aren't a valid indication of the kind of workers a company has. Most American companies pick white people to be executives of their company, as most people in this country are white. It's purely a PR move to avoid looking like an "Asian company", which would hurt their bottom line.
The real work is done by Asians and a few whites. They're back-office workers and aren't seen by the public.
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_22094415/asian-workers-now-dominate-silicon-valley-tech-jobs

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Well, most US engineers aren't exactly high-skilled. Their jobs require a 4-year engineering degree, but they're relegated to remedial "checklist" jobs. The true engineering is done by manufacturers like Samsung, and they're mostly overseas.
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What's your source for Apple engineers doing nothing more than checklist work?
 
Rogifan said:
What's your source for Apple engineers doing nothing more than checklist work?
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1) Very, very low R&D budget.

2) Tons and tons of worthless design patents like rectangles with rounded corners and page-turning animation that took $0 in R&D.
There are near 0 patents in Apple's portfolio that have anything to do with advanced electrical circuitry. They're 100% design/artistic patents.

It's highly probably that Apple's R&D budget is for buying components from various manufacturers and testing out which components are the best combination.
 
SteveJobsLover1 said:
1) Very, very low R&D budget.

2) Tons and tons of worthless design patents like rectangles with rounded corners and page-turning animation that took $0 in R&D.

It's highly probably that Apple's R&D budget is for buying components from various manufacturers and testing out which components are the best combination.
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OK so basically you have no source and are just spouting BS. Got it.
 
SteveJobsLover1 said:
I gave you my reasons as to why I believe Apple engineers are low-skilled, checklist workers.
Now give me yours.
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Dude, if people value their time (obviously folks who value it more than I do), they're not even going to start playing this game with you.
 
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