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Apple Begins Selling Certified Refurbished 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models

glowplug said:
This just makes me more annoyed the 13-in MBP hasn’t been updated.
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It's annoying, but the 13" update will be a tough sell as it will be hopelessly overpriced compared to comparable premium PC's.

It's highly unlikely to be priced any less than the current 13" which is £1799 for the baseline 28w model. Throw in Apple Care and you're looking at 2 grand before you bump the spec up. It's just an outrageous rip off. Macs are not worth the price anymore, especially with that POS operating system.
 
MistrSynistr said:
Here's my conspiracy theory: Apple Refurb products ARE brand new products at a discount.

I've bought a few off there and there is no way these things were used before.
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Dude, you may be onto something -- no conspiracy theory involved.

But the discount is not significant, given the over-pricing off retail. Limited to 15% off, at best.

You can get that discount, and much more, from online retailers (such as , B&H) if waiting, given a tat of patience, for end-of-year sales (Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Super Saturday).

Add the no-sales-tax to those that live on taxed states (I am hit with 6% overcharge), and the discount zooms by 6 or more percent, in my case.

The only risk, if there is one to consider, is that there is no 15-day, no-questions-asked, return window.

But other than that, all aces, from my own experiences.
 
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This 16'' MBP has been a total redemption in the MBP line. The typing experience and physical ESC key have made this a much better laptop. Very happy with how this thing feels and haven't had a problem with it since launch.
 
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ocnitsa said:
All I did was create a VMware fusion drive with an old version of Mac OS and installed CS5 on that. When I need to work on stuff I just drag the files into the virtual drive. Works well..granted I'm not a power user or anything.
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I created a Mojave VM in Parallels with only my 32-bit apps, just in case I need them, but so far haven’t needed to. Given how long it’s been since most apps went 64-bit, on the quad-core and higher Macs VMs work well enough.
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MistrSynistr said:
Here's my conspiracy theory: Apple Refurb products ARE brand new products at a discount.

I've bought a few off there and there is no way these things were used before.
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Most of them are returns during the 14-day window, so virtually indistinguishable from brand new.
 
I would be so much more excited about every single MacBook in the lineup if you could swap in your own NVMe drives.
 
Relentless Power said:
There’s not much of a cost savings for refurbished. But the direct advantage to buying refurbished, Apple has a fairly stringent process that these MacBooks have to endure in order to be ready for sale. They’re probably more inspected as a refurbished device than they would be factory new, as multiple test(s) is conducted before being sold.
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Really? I see so many posts here about subpar refurbs being given out. At least phones. Scratches dings dents
 
insited said:
You'll find a lot of those refurbs have a 8GB AMD 5500M. Hardware fault in certain batch causing freezes and restarts on gpu switch.


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Are we to infer they were actually fixed?

...or that TimCo DGAF and they are just pawning them off in hopes of finding a more tolerant consumer to stick the problem onto?
 
turbineseaplane said:
Are we to infer they were actually fixed?

...or that TimCo DGAF and they are just pawning them off in hopes of finding a more tolerant consumer to stick the problem onto?
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Yeah honestly...it's a total dogact considering the price of the particular models affected (top spec). Not admitting it, leaving customers in return loops, selling returns as refurbs. Original purchasers getting refurbs back without the discount. Refurb purchasers scoring a discount minus the headache.
 
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Yeah like 2015 - 2019 butterly keyboard macbooks being on instant recall on receipt/sale. 2019 16" macbook pro with 8GB AMD 5500M have a large enough faulty batch for me to be on my 3rd faulty one and a lot of forum posts about it. Catalina also causing reboots during sleep on macs with T2 chip, especially newer machines that can't downgrade from Catalina. Even $xx,xxx mac pros are affected by that last one.

The whole situation makes new macOS and related devices unusable for professional work. How they are editing tv shows for Apple TV+ and getting apps coded for iOS is beyond me. Greed and gaslighting their clientelle isn't a fun situation.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
I’m sort of surprised they haven’t started a practice of only offering refurbished models to education customers...

Built in market looking for discounts
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Apple has moved in the opposite direction, over the past x years they've curtailed the edu discount. They're not looking to grow their customer base, but maximize their profits
 
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maflynn said:
Apple has moved in the opposite direction, over the past x years they've curtailed the edu discount. They're not looking to grow their customer base, but maximize their profits
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That's sort of why I'm surprised they haven't made even more money off EDU by squeezing them..

Lower discount % + only offering them refurb models
 
dmylrea said:
Ever since Apple "refurbished" their Refurbished site, it is terribly bad to navigate and find what you want.

Even sorting by price does not work and the prices are all scrambled. It used to be so easy to see all the included specs for each unit and now you cannot see that without looking at each one individually.

A step backwards if you ask me.
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Just like how Apple ios7’d the user support community pages. Seemingly sleeker-looking but really just different-looking and less useful overall than before. So very frustrating. Compounding that is the non-scrollable (on an iPad at least) left-side filter. Nice job, to whatever fashion director led the refurb page unnecessary plastic surgery.

I went to buy a refurbished 16 after the less than impressive MBP release this week but wow Apple shut that door here rather quickly.
 
i4k20c said:
Can you combine the education discount with refurb?
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I'm not sure what the EDU discount percentage is but if you logon through the education and then shop you'll see if you get a discount. As for the discount's on refurbished products YES you do get them not on everything but a majority of them you do. I logged in through the military link and get discounts. Also got a discount on AppleCare. Sometimes you have to wait 30 days if a new product comes out. If there are other military people here all you have to do is register through ID.Me, it took 10 minutes maybe and have not had a problem.
 
michaelsviews said:
I'm not sure what the EDU discount percentage is but if you logon through the education and then shop you'll see if you get a discount. As for the discount's on refurbished products YES you do get them not on everything but a majority of them you do. I logged in through the military link and get discounts. Also got a discount on AppleCare. Sometimes you have to wait 30 days if a new product comes out. If there are other military people here all you have to do is register through ID.Me, it took 10 minutes maybe and have not had a problem.
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Educational discounts have been just $100 off int he past. Pretty stingy. The best time to buy is in the fall when BTS saves hit, and event hen, you *might* get a bigger amount off, but it's more likely that you get headphones, or something. The better half teaches at uni, and was looking for *deals* on a new iMac years ago, and saved more buying from a third party than using Apple's official edu deals. Sad...
 
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