It’s nice to see Apple adding Kensington locks to their PCs again! 🔑
You need to read more carefully before typing lengthy, flawed rebuttals like this. I didn't say my bike was stolen with a tiny tool and I take issue with your other flawed assumptions. You're missing the core point here. If an attacker can break down a locked door, then they can definitely cut your cable. But by all means, spend $65 on a lock that can be cut with a $5 tool. I'm not going to debate with you the nature of my experiences, or basic known facts about cable locks, so this is where this ends.1. How do you know they used a tool that fit in a pants pocket to cut the chain? Again, I’m looking for first hand experience, not assumptions.
2. A bike on a sidewalk in public view is much more prone to theft than a computer in a private office or school. Thieves are free to patrol streets looking for bikes where there is no access restriction, it’s noisy, and no one takes notice of you or your equipment. In an office or school, none of that is true. You will be noticed much more easily for any out of ordinary behavior, or for holding or using a tool, or for simply for not belonging there. Therefore the requirement of any tool use (especially bigger tools) is a much bigger barrier than on the street.
3. There are also stories of thieves breaking into offices and stealing unsecured laptops but leaving those secured with Kensington locks.
These serve a worthwhile purpose. Not the purpose some here are unreasonably assuming is the only worthwhile purpose.
Don’t be! After the asteroid post, yours is the next best. A great way to think about security. I bet most people here complaining about the Kensington lock lock their cars overnight, even though car locks can be easily overcome by anything from a coat hanger to a well-placed brick.Sorry for the long form post.
My lawyer has advised me not to answer this question.Have you actually tried to cut through 4+mm cable with these with people around or cops on the way?
Nice try but if anyone really wants a Mac Studio badly enough they will take the 2 seconds it would take cut through this to snatch one up.
@MacWiz_007 is correct that the Kensington lock cables can be cut almost instantly with some simple cutters that fit in a pocket. In the late '90s I taught graphic design and multimedia development classes at a local technical college and the Zip, Jazz, MO drives and CD-R's were all walking off leaving cut cables behind. Eventually the school wised up and added RFID tags to everything so alarms would sound if the hardware tried to leave the computer lab or certain sections of the school. Myself and some other staff had to give a demonstration of how easy the cables were to cut in order to explain to the administration and insurance people what was happening. They weren't understanding just how easy it was for kids to nip a cable and slip the item into their bag in a matter of seconds.1. How do you know they used a tool that fit in a pants pocket to cut the chain? Again, I’m looking for first hand experience, not assumptions.
2. A bike on a sidewalk in public view is much more prone to theft than a computer in a private office or school. Thieves are free to patrol streets looking for bikes where there is no access restriction, it’s noisy, and no one takes notice of you or your equipment. In an office or school, none of that is true. You will be noticed much more easily for any out of ordinary behavior, or for holding or using a tool, or for simply for not belonging there. Therefore the requirement of any tool use (especially bigger tools) is a much bigger barrier than on the street.
3. There are also stories of thieves breaking into offices and stealing unsecured laptops but leaving those secured with Kensington locks.
These serve a worthwhile purpose. Not the purpose some here are unreasonably assuming is the only worthwhile purpose.
I feel like you could just lift the leg up on that desk and slide the chain out the bottom and walk away with it. Bonus you get a free lock with your new Mac Studio.
I've been issued dozens of Kensington locks over the last 30 years and have never seen one prevent a theft
Before one of my backpacking trips, I told my dad I got a little luggage lock to lock up my tent when I was gone. He said “they’ll just cut through the tent.”Right. But that has always been the case with locks like this. It's for the casual, opportunistic thief.
Thanks yeah I was looking for first hand experience since I’ve never cut this thickness cable before myself. Too many people speak matter of factly without citing a source and many times the statements end up being false assumptions, so I had to check. But a lot of people take offense to skepticism.@MacWiz_007 is correct that the Kensington lock cables can be cut almost instantly with some simple cutters that fit in a pocket. In the late '90s I taught graphic design and multimedia development classes at a local technical college and the Zip, Jazz, MO drives and CD-R's were all walking off leaving cut cables behind. Eventually the school wised up and added RFID tags to everything so alarms would sound if the hardware tried to leave the computer lab or certain sections of the school. Myself and some other staff had to give a demonstration of how easy the cables were to cut in order to explain to the administration and insurance people what was happening. They weren't understanding just how easy it was for kids to nip a cable and slip the item into their bag in a matter of seconds.
@subjonas -- Cables and chains are quick and easy to cut with the right tools. And those tools are readily available at big box hardware stores, Amazon, wherever... A $30 ratcheting cable cutter will fit in the side pocket of my cargo pants no problem and it will sever the toughest bike cable-lock I know of in under 5 seconds if someone knows what they're doing. I had a bike stolen in college when it was locked with a Kryptonite U-Lock... The busted lock was left for me to find. Big rash of bike thefts there at that time (University of Colorado, Boulder). Campus security guy told me the thieves usually stick a piece of wood like a 6" piece of 2x4 through the lock to brace it against the bike rack so as not to damage the bike frame. Then smack the lock with a sledge hammer and they're gone.
For smash and grabs breaking into offices or stores, equipment that is locked is normally left behind just for times sake. Kensington cable locks within schools or corporate spaces are easy targets if there are not other means to track and safeguard the equipment. These locks are just means to slow or offer a mild deterrent. A cable lock will stop an opportunist that might have a sudden impulse to slip that Mac Studio into their bag. They're not going to stop the guy who really wants the Mac Studio and will bring his cable cutters to work/school with him the next day.
As others have pointed out, the insurance aspect is important. To properly insure and have full coverage, these schools or companies need to enact most reasonable measures to protect their equipment to begin with. There are also active loop locking cables now, that we didn't have back when I taught at that school. So they can be connected into a base unit that will sound an alarm if the cable is cut.
I have Grav-Plating in my home 🤣This would only work on a desk bolted to the ground no? Otherwise you could just lift the desk leg and slide the cable down.... How many people actually have desks bolted to the ground? maybe in offices but def not for home use.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Please link the video showing _you_ cutting through a Kensington lock cable in 2 seconds.Nice try but if anyone really wants a Mac Studio badly enough they will take the 2 seconds it would take cut through this to snatch one up.
I have Grav-Plating in my home 🤣
9 months later isn't prompt? Blame it on the pandemic?I'm surprised this didn't come out last year when the Mac Studio did.
Two words: prove it. Please post a video with actual time stamps that shows how long it takes to cut through this cable with any (non-pneumatic) wire cutters.two words
wire cutter
My desk is a c. 20 year old IKEA business model with inverted "T" legs; the "feet" are nearly 2 feet long. If someone can slip the short, looped cable over one of those, we can call them Houdini.This would only work on a desk bolted to the ground no? Otherwise you could just lift the desk leg and slide the cable down.... How many people actually have desks bolted to the ground? maybe in offices but def not for home use.
One of my favorite YouTube channels is the “LockPickingLawyer” (which is exactly what the name suggests — a lawyer who picks locks).Two words: prove it. Please post a video with actual time stamps that shows how long it takes to cut through this cable with any (non-pneumatic) wire cutters.
A bit off-topic but I've looked at the Magic Mouse and I don't see any place but the bottom to put the charging port.
Well I guess we can mostly blame Jony Ive. Aesthetic design usually took precedence over the practical aspects of connecting to the world. Every mm of thickness was precious to him.That's kind of the point. They made the questionable design choice of making the mouse so thin, you can't charge it from its edge.
With the 2021 iMac, they ran into similar limitations — it's so thin it can't fit Ethernet or headphone jacks at the back. But they found reasonable workarounds: put Ethernet on the power adapter (which is arguably even better), and put the headphone jack on the side. The mouse, OTOH, can't even be used while it's charging. You'll rarely need to charge it, but that's a bit silly nonetheless.
As you say, perhaps they should've added inductive charging of some sort.
(Personally, I don't particularly care. macOS is better with trackpads anyway. But I think it's fair to question whether they picked the right design tradeoff there. Why not make it a millimeter or two thicker so it can fit a thin charging plug like Lightning?)
You should see the chains/locks the messengers use here in NYC. They weigh more than the bikes.One of my favorite YouTube channels is the “LockPickingLawyer” (which is exactly what the name suggests — a lawyer who picks locks).
In additional to picking locks, he also sometimes demonstrates how easy and quick it is to cut through far thicker wires/cables with easily-concealable tools (tools that can fit in you pocket).
I remember a few years back I was looking for a bicycle cable (for a bicycle, obviously, lol). I was set to buy what I thought was a good cable… until I saw a video of him destroying it in just a handful of seconds. It was shocking how quickly he cut through it. He very quickly wised me up on what is junk and what will actually provide a challenge for thieves.
I couldn’t find any videos of him cutting through something as thin as this cable though. Probably because it would be so easy as to not make for an interesting video. But here is a video of him cutting through a coil four-cables thick at the same time (because cutting through just a single bicycle cable would have been boring, lol):
That’s a seriously heavy duty toenail clipper
You don't get to pretend to be engaging in good faith skepticism when you are making wild claims and assumptions. If you don't want to be called out, then don't make up your own facts just to have arguments with people.Thanks yeah I was looking for first hand experience since I’ve never cut this thickness cable before myself. Too many people speak matter of factly without citing a source and many times the statements end up being false assumptions, so I had to check. But a lot of people take offense to skepticism.
Agreed.Nice try but if anyone really wants a Mac Studio badly enough they will take the 2 seconds it would take cut through this to snatch one up.
These locking cables are really only a deterrent for people walking by. You can cut through them in seconds.
You'll have a long time getting through the plastic and the twisted-threaded wire within the Kensington cables. You need something with more leverage-force ... proper bolt cutters not something held in 1 hand. A portable buzz-saw ... 3 seconds.
Floor mounted safe with 6 inch concrete reinforcement that is welded shut.Honest question to those that are critical of this: what would a sufficient lock be?
OK...so why does this help your insurance? Seems like 'they broke into my house and took my Mac Studio' would be enough to claim with out forking out for this placebo....I mean, casual theft deterrent."Locks are for honest people".
Physical security is all about deterrence, time, and inconvenience.
Detering crimes of opportunity. "hey, look at that snazzy new Mac Studio, I think I will take that". Not everyone carries wire cutters around.
Keeping something secure with sufficient time for someone responsible to respond. Along the lines of a safe or a home alarm system. IE, I have a safe in my basement. It would take someone probably about 4 hours to break into it without the help of the best safe cracking tools like a torch or a plasma cutter. Plus, after you got in my house, the alarm would be going off and the local cops are on the way. Hey, if what's in MY safe is worth that much effort, I got bad news for you. It's insured and your efforts were best spent elsewhere.
Inconvenience. Making it a pain in the but to swipe something. Keeping it locked (like with something like this) and being able to use Apple's "find my" tools to remote wipe or lock the device if stolen makes it less likely to be stolen.
The final unmentioned leg of all of this is GOOD INSURANCE. I try and tell people this, and a lot of time they don't listen. Anything of value can be stolen. Even if the thief is caught and prosecuted your chances of getting restitution is literally zero MINUS zero. You're not getting restitution. I deal with the back end of this as part of my career and I'm letting you all know you should never expect to get restitution in a theft case against a natural person.
So if you have good insurance, either through your homeowner's /renter's insurance, your credit card, or other insurance all you're ever out is your deductible. An amount you can budget for and control. Let the insurance company go after the restitution.
I can't emphasize this enough when it comes to theft cases. You should expect you will never be made "whole" by the legal system. This is what insurance is for.
Sorry for the long form post.