But they do carry the model that this thread discussion is about.
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Apple Begins Selling Refurbished 13-Inch MacBook Pro With M1 Chip
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Not really. Thoroughly inspected doesn’t mean ****. They aren’t putting logic boards under a microscope looking for any defects in soldering. They aren’t doing heavy duty testing. I know because I’ve seen refurbished units fail slightly more than brand new ones. Obviously both can have defects, but they go through pretty much the same QC
Apple's refurbs are basically indistinguishable from a brand new one other than the packaging.
The Pro has much longer battery life (in real world testing it ends up being like 5 hours longer), a brighter screen, better speakers, a bigger track pad and better mic’s.
If Apple offers the 14" without the Touch Bar, I may grab one, even though I really like my Air.
They aren’t passing units through with obvious visual defects, like is decently common with new units.
Your anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean much, sorry to say. I can say basically the opposite of it. I’ve had ~ 30 MacBook Pro’s through my hands in the last 12 months, every single one with visual defects was a new unit. Refurbs were all flawless.
I’m aware, I don’t care about the box. If I can get a brand new one on sale for less than the cost of a refurbished unit, I’ll go for that. What ever is a better value.
The folks I help solve computer issues for and teach don’t upgrade every 12 months. They upgrade every 5-7 years. The current MBA has a better screen, larger trackpad, better speakers, and better microphone than the MBP from 2012 or 2014. They aren’t upgrading from a mid 2016 or 2017 MBP or MBA. A new MBA is an improvement in every way compared to their 5-7 year old MBP. The difference in speakers, microphones and display aren’t noticeable unless comparing a new MBA side by side to a new MBP. Even then it’s not worth it for them (or me) If you want a studio quality mic, buy a real microphone, it’s still better than the “studio quality” microphones Apple uses.
Haven’t noticed any physical defects on new or refurbished units that I’ve seen. I also haven’t had 30 MacBook Pro units through my hands in the last 12 months either so I can’t comment. I can say that when I worked at my high school the 400 new Mac notebooks for the incoming freshman had no physical defects. This was back in 2011-2014 though with 2010 unibody MacBook, 2012 MacBook Pro 13” and 2013-2014 MacBook Air 13”
My first thought was “wow, but the M1 is still brand new‽”
And then I realized, holy crap, there’s going to a Mac that’s twice as fast within 20 months. It’s been, what, a decade since we saw Macs with CPUs improving at the pace that we’ll supposedly see here for the next several years.
At the same time though... what the heck is Microsoft Teams and Outlook doing on my Mac? Why does Outlook need 4 GB of RAM? Teams appears to be running a main app thats 2 GB and then another 10 helpers that occupy an extra 6 GB between them all. I don’t understand this at all - what on earth are these apps doing that consumes so much RAM? Teams, fine, lots of fancy video stuff going on, but Outlook, what on earth is it doing?
And then I realized, holy crap, there’s going to a Mac that’s twice as fast within 20 months. It’s been, what, a decade since we saw Macs with CPUs improving at the pace that we’ll supposedly see here for the next several years.
At the same time though... what the heck is Microsoft Teams and Outlook doing on my Mac? Why does Outlook need 4 GB of RAM? Teams appears to be running a main app thats 2 GB and then another 10 helpers that occupy an extra 6 GB between them all. I don’t understand this at all - what on earth are these apps doing that consumes so much RAM? Teams, fine, lots of fancy video stuff going on, but Outlook, what on earth is it doing?
Just in time for the release of the redesigned 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros.....oh, how you tease Apple! How you tease!!
Watch a couple of reviews on this new chip and that precise config, and you will understand. That 8 gigs of RAM blistered past and whipped the last newest Intel MBP with 64 gigs of RAM.
I think that’s why the M1 Air has been in tight supply while the M1 Pro has not. The slightly brighter screen, better speakers, and fan don’t really justify the extra $250.
Not really. It’s been more than 3 months since it launched, plus with holiday sales there are likely greater returns than had they released it in July.
It could be due to a low return rate of the Air and there isn't a significant amount to sell.
Malware included in this price? 🤣
The silence from Apple on this is strange. Hopefully they can get it under control.
The silence from Apple on this is strange. Hopefully they can get it under control.
Speaking of screen brightness... That was one reservation I had going with the M1 MBA back in early December; believing the M1 MBP spec'd 500 nits was 25% brighter than the MBA's 400 nits was a big deal.
Turns out for me, it is not. Indoors I have brightness set around 40% most of the time. Cranking it up to 100% is visually painful. Even outdoors with the Sun shining directly on the screen, at 100% it's still very bright and would not need/want any additional brightness.
I do notice the sound isn't quite as rich as that of my 2017 MBP. But that's not a problem for me and how I use it.
People return them when they discover (after-the-fact) they accidentally clicked the wrong button.