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Simple. dont upgrade the software.

Of course Apple could implement a "Turn of battery management" switch, then all the complainers can complain their iphones shut down instead.

Apple absolutely should add a software switch to turn this “feature” off. It is not enough to just better explain the “feature”. I suspect this has also been very poorly implemented in the software. My phone, which was working essentially perfectly before I updated has become pretty much literally unusable at times (and always much slower than before) after the update. My battery life has improved marginally, but I would much, much rather have a working phone with a battery I have to charge in the middle of the day (I’m at my desk anyway, so who cares if I have to charge it?.

Really horrible implementation. It’s a no-brainer to add an off switch, especially when you don’t do a good job on the software in the first place.

Unfortunately there has been a lot to complain about lately when it comes to Apple software.
 
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Apple definitely deserves criticism for not communicating this to customers. I understand and even can support the technical logic behind their decisions for preserving battery performance and life at a cost of cpu performance, however it comes off scummy and underhanded obscuring that from the customer. I'm sure there are tons of customers who would have gladly opted to an Apple battery replacement service ($70 out of warranty service charge) than pay $500 to $1000+ for a new phone every two years. This is why communication and transparency is important but Apple always seems to default to silence until it totally blows up.
Umm they did. No one was listening.

From TechCrunch
With iOS 10.2.1, Apple made improvements to reduce occurrences of unexpected shutdowns that a small number of users were experiencing with their iPhone. iOS 10.2.1 already has over 50% of active iOS devices upgraded and the diagnostic data we’ve received from upgraders shows that for this small percentage of users experiencing the issue, we’re seeing a more than 80% reduction in iPhone 6s and over 70% reduction on iPhone 6 of devices unexpectedly shutting down.

We also added the ability for the phone to restart without needing to connect to power, if a user still encounters an unexpected shutdown. It is important to note that these unexpected shutdowns are not a safety issue, but we understand it can be an inconvenience and wanted to fix the issue as quickly as possible. If a customer has any issues with their device they can contact AppleCare.
 
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Many will see this mandatory slowing down of phones as a way to convince people that it's time to buy an entirely new phone, not a new battery. Whether Apple's motives were genuine or not, it comes off as grubby and money grabbing.

I expect they'll implement a switch in a future version of the OS which disables the CPU throttling.
 
They can't go around saying their processors trounce SnapDragon's and give specified speed improvements over their previous models when they only perform at the advertised speeds for a year or so. The whole narrative has been false. John Gruber's response was totally uncritical in its thinking. It's not about whether they are intentionally trying to force people to upgrade. It's about whether the product was sold with the specifications it was advertised to have.
No product that relies on a heavily used battery will fulfil its original specifications after a year of use. Battery life will be shorter with every single such product, regardless of manufacturer. Show me one manufacturer that provides accurate specifications in regard to battery life over time.
 
Just FYI - that actually is the hardest solution. Supporting deprecated software means you need to allocate more resources (devs, test, time, etc).

Why not just keep the perfectly fine OS and only release security/big patches and forget about releasing a new OS every year? The update schedule is ridiculous and just means we continually get half-baked software. Why change something that works really well? Yes we get some good new features, but a lot of the changes are clear negatives and seem to be introduced just for the sake of having something new and different (but worse).

Maybe just release a new OS every other year or every three years. And lay off the changes just for change’s sake. If something works, keep it.
 
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This is a perfect example of why I stick with android. It's my device. I paid for it so I can do what I want, when I want, where I want with it. You can't tell me what I can and can't do. It's like buying a car and the dealership tells you you can't drive it on dirt roads cause it will put more stress on the suspension. So what?
 
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No product that relies on a heavily used battery will fulfil its original specifications after a year of use. Battery life will be shorter with every single such product, regardless of manufacturer. Show me one manufacturer that provides accurate specifications in regard to battery life over time.

Tesla. If their batteries have have deviated from spec it is because they have significantly outperformed. I would say an electric car is a product that relies on a heavily used battery, and many electric cars are totally fine after one year.

EDIT: I should say most, the vast majority, of electric cars are fine after one year.
 
Tesla. If their batteries have have deviated from spec it is because they have significantly outperformed. I would say an electric car is a product that relies on a heavily used battery, and many electric cars are totally fine after one year.

EDIT: I should say most, the vast majority, of electric cars are fine after one year.
We are talking about phones not luxury electronic cars. Stay on topic. :confused:

Android down clocks their devices 50%. And this has been news since Feb when 10.2.1 came out as Apple never hid this. They even did an interview about it with Tech Crunch.
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This is a perfect example of why I stick with android. It's my device. I paid for it so I can do what I want, when I want, where I want with it. You can't tell me what I can and can't do. It's like buying a car and the dealership tells you you can't drive it on dirt roads cause it will put more stress on the suspension. So what?
Ohh really? Tell that to these people on Android Central. They are literally complaining about their device's CPU being throttled too much all the way back in 2015. I call BS.
 
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I have 6+ and it became painfully slow in the last couple of months' updates. Same with prev-gen iPads we have in the family. Same happened to previous phones too.

Is this some kind of deliberate strategy by Apple? I mean, they made me switch to PC from iMac/nMP, now this...

P.S. Been using MBPs for a decade now, but next laptop is going to be Lenovo's P-series.
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It's like buying a car and the dealership tells you you can't drive it on dirt roads cause it will put more stress on the suspension.

I'm pretty sure if you go off-roading in a 7-cm clearance roadster and damage suspension, warranty won't cover it.

Just saying. :)
 
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The solution......

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It's not about battery life. It's about peak CPU usage overdrawing the battery and shutting off a phone even though it's charged. I get that it's an issue, but it's rare enough in my experience with older phones that I'd rather just take my chances. Worst case I reboot my phone.
 
I now suspect that some of the reports of really slow processor clock speeds reported here on MacRumors are bogus.

I just re-tested two iPhone 5s's, one iPhone 6, and one iPhone 6s (family hand-me-downs) with my own benchmark code (tight single threaded arithmetic routines written in Objective C), and none of these iPhones showed any signs of processor slow downs or performance variations beyond my usual measurement error (well within +-5%) from the exact same benchmark code run when these iPhones were new. Camera app launched in 2 seconds or less on all. The iPhone 6 had an old original battery, and was charged to less than 50%, no slow down. All these iPhones were freshly rebooted and in Airplane mode during testing.

So I suspect that either (1) many of the complaints here are fake, (2) the CPU clock speed reporting tools being used are broken or misleading, or (3) lots of people here have some other serious problems with their iPhones causing them to slow down so much.
 
I'd just like a choice: Either better battery life or better performance. I'm a light phone user, but when I do use it I despise the lag on my iPhone 6 128 GB.
 
I have 6+ and it became painfully slow in the last couple of months' updates. Same with prev-gen iPads we have in the family. Same happened to previous phones too.

Is this some kind of deliberate strategy by Apple? I mean, they made me switch to PC from iMac/nMP, now this...

P.S. Been using MBPs for a decade now, but next laptop is going to be Lenovo's P-series.
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I'm pretty sure if you go off-roading in a 7-cm clearance roadster and damage suspension, warranty won't cover it.

Just saying. :)
Every electronics company does CPU throttling based on the wear and tear on the battery. Apple isn't special and they've been very open about it since they implemented this feature this past feb.
 
Just curious but how does the CPU speed compare on an iPhone with a duff battery to the low power mode? Is the clock speed the same or lower?
 
This is a perfect example of why I stick with android. It's my device. I paid for it so I can do what I want, when I want, where I want with it. You can't tell me what I can and can't do. It's like buying a car and the dealership tells you you can't drive it on dirt roads cause it will put more stress on the suspension. So what?
You get stuck with kinda the opposite problem, not being able to update a device that has vulnerabilities. I'd maybe buy an Android phone if I didn't feel at risk of becoming part of a botnet or a data mine.

BTW, until iOS 11, jailbreaking has always been an option for those who want total control. I used to do it, but I've decided it's not worth. Not like I'm being paid to micromanage my phone.
 
It always amazes me at how people are so willing to take the side of massive corporations over individual consumers.
I side with whoever I believe is right. It does not matter whether that party is corporation or consumer, friend or foe.

Many will see this mandatory slowing down of phones as a way to convince people that it's time to buy an entirely new phone, not a new battery. Whether Apple's motives were genuine or not, it comes off as grubby and money grabbing.
If Apple really wanted to force its users to upgrade, why would they introduce a throttling feature which was pegged to the quality of the battery in your phone? That's a dead giveaway, because just like you said, a fresh battery solves the problem altogether. Why not simply have the software patch slow down your phone regardless of the health of your battery, if Apple wanted everyone to keep upgrading to the newest and greatest?

As it stands, Apple essentially had 5 options.

1) Throttle older iPhone performance in order to prevent the devices from shutting down unexpectedly.
2) Avoid throttling and just let the iPhones unexpectedly turn off.
3) Offer a battery swap program for older iPhone batteries.
4) Improve the power delivery system in order to handle deteriorating batteries.
5) Include larger batteries that can supply the needed power requirement.

Option 2 is obviously unacceptable. Option 3 works only for countries with a strong apple store retail presence; users in other countries or who are not comfortable with letting a third party do this are essentially out of luck. Option 4 appears to be what Apple is trying to do, what with news of them looking to design their own power management chips, but it doesn't address the current, immediate issue. Option 5 is still doable with the larger iPhone models (and indeed, it seems the plus models have not been affected as much as the smaller iPhone models), but unless you are willing to make the iPhone 8 and SE much thicker and heavier or drop them altogether, I don't see how this is feasible.

What this means is that in the short term at least, throttling your iPhone is still the most reasonable option with the best risk/reward in terms of the user experience of the hundreds of millions of iPhone users around the world overall, which is incidentally the one Apple went with. Every other option results in a major user experience tradeoff in one way or another. Obviously, some tech-savvy user is going to claim that replacing the battery is no mean feat for him, but don't forget - Apple doesn't make this sort of decision based on what is most convenient for a few tech-savvy individuals lurking around in Macrumours, and they rightfully shouldn't.

In a nutshell, the more I analyse the situation, the more I believe Apple is simply trying to make older iPhones usable the best way they can. You can argue that maybe they went about it the wrong way, and in hindsight they probably did, but it doesn't make their motives any less pure. It's not planned obsolescence, it's not greed, it's just Apple doing that their customers pay them to do - make the tough calls for them so they don't have to. And the downside of having to constantly second-guess what your users want is that sometimes, you just guess wrong.
 
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You get stuck with kinda the opposite problem, not being able to update a device that has vulnerabilities. I'd maybe buy an Android phone if I didn't feel at risk of becoming part of a botnet or a data mine.
No he didn't. As usual Android had the problem Apple is having now first. Back in 2015 Android KitKat first implemented this feature on Galaxy S4 phones and it has been an issue on Android. On Android Central people are complaining about the CPU Throttling.
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It’s not default android behaviour, it’s Samsung customization.
Then why are Nexxus 5 people complaining about it here.

LG Made the Nexus 5 phones.
 
No different than Apple supporting older versions of
OS X with security patches.

Not a big deal. Apple can employ more staff. They are rich enough to do so.

Just FYI - that actually is the hardest solution. Supporting deprecated software means you need to allocate more resources (devs, test, time, etc).
 
To all of those who support what Apple did we need to remind them there are people who had their iphones slowed down and had NO idea that it was due to a faulty battery. Most of us assumed it was the new iOS being too "heavy" making our phones slower! Therefore lot of us upgraded to new iphones. Without a warning message how were we supposed to know that we could make our phones speedier if we replaced our batteries???

What also puzzles me is that in Apple's statement they added this phrases in the end: "We've now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future" That's pure arrogance from their side. They don't realize the money loss they have caused to a lot of users.
 
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No he didn't. As usual Android had the problem Apple is having now first. Back in 2015 Android KitKat first implemented this feature on Galaxy S4 phones and it has been an issue on Android. On Android Central people are complaining about the CPU Throttling.
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Then why are Nexxus 5 people complaining about it here.

LG Made the Nexus 5 phones.

I was referring to that link provided ( toms hardware 2014 ), it mentions specific Samsung customizations. I can’t comment on other manufacturers.
 
I just re-tested

There are tests and there is real life.

Our 6/6+ as well as older iPads became really sluggish after last major update. Like 5-7 seconds to boot Mail app. Was instanteous just before.

Whether it's throttling or software issues does not matter really - fact is Apple deliberately (you're not saying they don't test updates, are you?) slowed down devices. Which coincided with major release of new phone.
 
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