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To all of those who support what Apple did, we need to remind them there are people who had their iphones slowed down and had NO idea that it was due to a fault battery. Most of us assumed it was the new iOS being too "heavy" making our phones slower! Therefore lot of us upgraded to new iphones. Without a warning message how were we supposed to know that we could make our phones speedier if we replaced our batteries???

What also puzzles me is that in Apple's statement they added this phrases in the end: "We've now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future" That's pure arrogance from their side. They don't realize the money loss they have caused to a lot of users.
Umm they were interviewed by Tech Crunch about this feature back in Feb and got no backlash. Naturally they are bragging about it.
 
I was referring to that link provided ( toms hardware 2014 ), it mentions specific Samsung customizations. I can’t comment on other manufacturers.
I provided the data in both instances for Samsung Galaxy S4 and Nexxus 5 made by LG. So...
 
Why not just keep the perfectly fine OS and only release security/big patches and forget about releasing a new OS every year? The update schedule is ridiculous and just means we continually get half-baked software. Why change something that works really well? Yes we get some good new features, but a lot of the changes are clear negatives and seem to be introduced just for the sake of having something new and different (but worse).
Because new features sell phones, and the downside of having your own ecosystem is that you are then obligated to offer your own competing alternative just to keep up with what the rest of the world is doing, and Apple is effectively competing with pretty much every other Android smartphone OEM and Google. Apple can't afford to slow down. If anything, they need to speed up.
 
So your statement "Every electronics company does CPU throttling based on the wear and tear on the battery" was a load of crap?

Nice to hear.
Actually wrong again. Nexxus 5 says hello. The fact that its a known thing on Android Central which is a hard core Android user website for at least 2 years. I was still right. The Android users on Android Central expect it.
 
Hate to urinate in your chips, but battery technology is consistent between all manufacturers and it sucks.

While this is true regarding cell chemistry, battery management systems and cell design philosophy are not consistent between manufacturers.

Mobile electronics have this stupid drive to be as thin as possible, so they need to get as many wH/L out of that cell as they can. If you are a little more lenient with the upper cutoff and current densities on lithium ion, these cells can last a LONG TIME at the expense of not much energy. For example, consider the lithium ion cells that Medtronic uses for pacemakers. They last >10 years with >80% capacity retention.

http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/161/10/A1572.short

Additionally, there are aspects of cell design that could have been adjusted as well.
 
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Good. Give me the choice of a "battery optimized" or "performance optimized" feature.
Lot's of fairly new phones, even my wife's iPhone 7 128GB, has become noticeably slower since 11.2. And there is nothing wrong with her phone, and her battery health is at 92% with 380 cycles, so there should be NO reason for ANY performance throttling. And if that's the case, then Apple needs to use better high-voltage batteries that perform better - OR - tune their phones performance according to the 80% battery after 500 cycles standard, so that a massive change isn't gonna happen within 12 months of ownership.

What a disgrace!
 
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Guess S3 is not made by "Every electronic manufacturer" then.

Get your logic straight.
My logic is correct.

The point is that CPU throttling has been a thing for years in the Android community as pointed out in the link I posted previously. I posted both links multiple times even posted thread from the Android forums earlier to show that CPU throttling has been a thing for years via multiple manufacturers. The major cell phone manufacturers all do this. Apple has only had it for 10 months and were interviewed about it when they first introduced this feature back in February and nothing. Now all of the sudden people are pretending to be upset.
 
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Having said that, i bet there is an deeper issue with iPhone 6/6S devices they won‘t admit

Imho it's a design flaw. They made it very thin allowing only for insufficient batteries. They knew that batteries degeade but still sold them in this way. They get too weak too soon. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that this was done by design - or at least a welcome side effect - to have an excuse to slow them down.

Does the throttling happen when the phone is plugged in? Could a battery case "fix" the throttling?

I haven't noticed a difference when I attach a powerbank. Anyone tried a battery case?
 
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Not buying Apple's excuse.

Why is it that iPhone 5S and all the ones before never have this problem of just turning off? Something else is going on...

My iPhone 5 did after around 12 months , only when cold as per Apple's statement. I would load an app in the cold and phone would shutdown. I could switch it on again after a few minutes, but would quickly shutdown again on loading an app again (CPU spike?).
 
Now all of the sudden people are pretending to be upset.

All of a sudden perfectly working phones with perfectly working batteries turned into slow pieces of crap.

For no valid reason (i don't buy "shutdowns" explanation, batteries don't just magically stop working after 500 cycles, they degrade).
 
While this is true regarding cell chemistry, battery management systems and cell design philosophy are not consistent between manufacturers.

Mobile electronics have this stupid drive to be as thin as possible, so they need to get as many wH/L out of that cell as they can. If you are a little more lenient with the upper cutoff and current densities on lithium ion, these cells can last a LONG TIME at the expense of not much energy. For example, consider the lithium ion cells that Medtronic uses for pacemakers. They last >10 years with >80% capacity retention.

http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/161/10/A1572.short
We are talking about hand held smartphones not pacemakers which use a fraction of the power as they don't have a 6 inch display to power.
 
We are talking about hand held smartphones not pacemakers which use a fraction of the power as they don't have a 6 inch display to power.


LMAO, are you saying it's more difficult to power a 6" display than start a human heart?

Okay, then consider the case of Tesla cells which have > 400k km on them and >80% capacity retention.

1/2 of Apple's problem is clearly cell design and battery management.
 
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All of a sudden perfectly working phones with perfectly working batteries turned into slow pieces of crap.

For no valid reason (i don't buy "shutdowns" explanation, batteries don't just magically stop working after 500 cycles, they degrade).
Why Apple was interviewed in Feb by TechCrunch about doing it...but now you're mad? What else do you want them to do? Apple said they were doing it. Did it and now you're upset.
 
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LMAO, are you saying it's more difficult to power a 6" display than start a human heart?

Okay, then consider the case of Tesla cells which have > 400k km on them and >80% capacity retention.

1/2 of Apple's problem is clear cell design and battery management.
You are comparing Apple's to oranges. it's not how technology works. You want to compare phones to cars and pacemakers and every thing else...but a smartphone. That's because the other smartphone manufacturers haven't figured out a better way to handle this issue either.

The other Smartphone manufacturers have been CPU throttling for at least 2 years depending upon the manufacturer. Apple is actually late to the game in this regard. You're just being obtuse.
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Um, how is admitting to wrongdoing suddenly makes it all right?

"Yeah, I stole it. Sorry! - Okay then, case closed!"
The point is Apple was open about it and their reasoning from the get go. I didn't say it was a perfect solution. However, it's the same solution Samsung and LG and others have decided to go with until something better comes along. At least with Apple you can get the battery replaced for a fee or for free depending upon the situation.
 
A shameful practice of the company that aspires to Pope's "can't be wrong" policy.

They lost hugely on trust issues with this and it's time to put some of their tax free money on making right with their customers, for once.
 
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Snooze. This will go nowhere as usual.

This is actually how apple repair programs start, users complaining and threatening to take apple to court. Did you think apple has ever taken the first step in a repair program?

I’m not saying it’s a repair program, just stating for action to happen, it comes down to this with apple, owww no, you might benefit from this as a consumer.....
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Cue the clown parade.

Italy have consumer rights laws?
 
A shameful practice of the company that aspires to Pope's "can't be wrong" policy.

They lost hugely on trust issues with this and it's time to put some of their tax free money on making right with their customers, for once.
Really, you want to bring religion into this?

Trust, if the battery is slowing down your device just ask for a replacement battery. Apple is not hiding the issue from you nor has it. They've been saying flat out for 10 months this battery issue was an issue and they implemented what they thought was a reasonable fix for it. All the smartphone manufacturers have the same issues but they don't replace your battery or your phone when you show up at the Apple store w/ a problem.
 
About time. What they are doing is highly unethical. Their involvement with my property stops after payment.
So when you buy a shoe with “shoelaces”! Will you complain that they are broken after 3 years of use? Or you go to store and buy replacement? They will loose, because Apple offers battery replacement. But hey Americans are ignorant !
 
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