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That being said you can still replace the battery on the iPhone if you really wanted to.

Yes but through Apple, unless the battery is below a certain threshold you would have to pay for a general failure as opposed to the battery replacement which can cost allot more.

I tried to get my iphone 6 replaced some time ago in the UK but as it was 'too good' (despite being affected by this and borderline) they said I couldn't use the cheaper battery replacement program.
 
I have been using Apple products since 1982. My AppleTV has been replace by Roku, My iMac is being replaced by a HP Device (award winning) and my iPhone I am going Samsung. Having a homogeneous hardware portfolio from Apple is less relevant in the cloud world we live today. Apple will lose in the end by being so greedy and short sighted...

This is exactly my feelings on this. I still have my Apple TVs and my 2010 iMac, but I have gone from looking to buy and Apple Watch 3 (and AirBuds) earlier this year, to expecting that my next computer will be not a Mac, at which point the Apple TVs are expendable. I am in a holding pattern on my 6S until this mess sorts itself out.

Apple will be hurt badly by this and, unfortunately for them, Steve Jobs isn't available to pull their arses from the fire any more.
 
Wow, I did not expect to see so many incredulous posts about this here. Apple may have been wrong to “hide” throttling when battery cannot supply peak power but it is the best solution to an inconvenient drawback to lithium battery tech.

I agree.

My old 32GB iPhone 5 is chugging along just fine on iOS 11, no shutdowns. Weird to read people’s more advanced model 6 & 7’s are slow as snails and shutting down. Is it slower, well, of coarse, for one it’s running an OS that’s far more demanding than when the hardware was even conceived. Am I mad that Apple has throttled it down? Absolutely not. I would much rather get decent battery life, which I do, than have a message keep popping up telling me to plug it back into the wall.
 
Be careful with switching to Samsung. Their phones bog down a ton after one full year too. If you have an American carrier, you're probably stuck with a Snapdragon model, meaning that you could be at the mercy of a carrier. Even the factory unlocked Galaxies have bloatware that you cannot uninstall. Carrier updates are anti-consumer since they prolong updates till after a new model releases hoping you will upgrade.

If you're going to go Android, go Pixel. You'll get a lot of software support, good hardware, less carrier or OEM hassles, and still have the ability to work with a Roku and a HP Device.

Where do you get this info? From some mac forum??

I have my NOTE 4 samsung with a replaceable battery. Still runs perfect and its over 3 years old. (No throttling or lag *cough cough*)
 
Be careful with switching to Samsung. Their phones bog down a ton after one full year too. If you have an American carrier, you're probably stuck with a Snapdragon model, meaning that you could be at the mercy of a carrier. Even the factory unlocked Galaxies have bloatware that you cannot uninstall. Carrier updates are anti-consumer since they prolong updates till after a new model releases hoping you will upgrade.

If you're going to go Android, go Pixel. You'll get a lot of software support, good hardware, less carrier or OEM hassles, and still have the ability to work with a Roku and a HP Device.

I use a Samsung Note 4, which is a four year old phone running an operating system two generations old. It still does everything I want, takes perfectly acceptable pictures, and gets new batteries once a year.
 
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I agree.

My old 32GB iPhone 5 is chugging along just fine on iOS 11, no shutdowns. Weird to read people’s more advanced model 6 & 7’s are slow as snails and shutting down. Is it slower, well, of coarse, for one it’s running an OS that’s far more demanding than when the hardware was even conceived. Am I mad that Apple has throttled it down? Absolutely not. I would much rather get decent battery life, which I do, than have a message keep popping up telling me to plug it back into the wall.

False

The trend should be, as operating systems get developed and revised they should become more efficient.
If apple "cared" about your experience, removing features to ensure your experience on older phones would not be compromised.

Obviously they dont care about that.

Android phones typically get a few OS updates. But they stop receiving updates after about 2-3 years. And your android phone will still be operating at its PEAK performance if it werent for the battery (some models can replace it so it will always be peak performance)
 
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Yes but through Apple, unless the battery is below a certain threshold you would have to pay for a general failure as opposed to the battery replacement which can cost allot more.

I tried to get my iphone 6 replaced some time ago in the UK but as it was 'too good' (despite being affected by this and borderline) they said I couldn't use the cheaper battery replacement program.

I'm pretty sure there are 3rd parties who will swap out your battery if it's that big of an issue.

or..

Replace your aging iPhone 6/7/Plus battery w/ ZeroLemon’s kits from $12
 
If the phone doesn't last more than 1 year without having a defective battery that shuts down on you, then the device is of poor quality. What apple should do is replace any "defective" batteries that are causing any phone to randomly shut off. They should not be slowing down every single device for this specific, and probably somewhat rare issue.

This reaks of unethical conduct. No matter which avenue you look down, it looks bleak. If they want to preserve battery life for customer's, you can also notice that they didn't announce any sort of issue with these shut downs, slow downs, or the existence of this "feature whatsoever". Maybe that's because they don't want millions of customer's coming in to replace their 1 (1-3 years generally speaking) year old phone batteries, when in some stores they don't even support this procedure. Or maybe it's because they wanted some way to slow down devices and push new sales. It's particularly curious how this happens with devices 1 year old, and not just 3+ year old devices, which more obviously would be impacted by battery degradation.
 
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I use a Samsung Note 4, which is a four year old phone running an operating system two generations old. It still does everything I want, takes perfectly acceptable pictures, and gets new batteries once a year.

YES!

Thats the way it should be.

Instead APPLE a GREEEN company makes beautiful looking phones that shatter when dropped from 2 feet, bend and degrade in battery life so its throttled in 1-2 years. They are also THE MOST expensive phones ranging from 1000US and above.

Unfortunately ALL phone manufacturers are becoming like this. Corporate GREED mandates they need to keep the sales up.

So convince the masses they need a phone every year. Make it as fragile as possible, make sure they cant replace the battery, and now THROTTLE IT without them knowing.

Come on guys think about it
 
I use a Samsung Note 4, which is a four year old phone running an operating system two generations old. It still does everything I want, takes perfectly acceptable pictures, and gets new batteries once a year.

I have an iPhone 5s that I feel the same exact way about. Can even get the battery replaced for fairly cheap if I wanted to.
 
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My iPhone 6 that I use for business has slowed down so much that it is nearly unusable. Try do dial a number 15 seconds delay or crashes all together. Send an Email to a specific contact. App hangs or take 10-15 secs. I did a clean install with iOS 11. I still have barely installed my standard apps in hopes of a release the would increase performance thinking it was bugs in the OS. Not a Deliberate Act by Apple to down grading our devices performance. This is not only unethical it slaps all Apple lifetime users in the face for long standing loyalty. Apple needs to be penalized heavily for this deception and not just a class action that helps Lawyers. Apple should be required to update the code to perform properly on all devices. Also once and for all require them to stop making false claims on battery times. For ever they claim one thing and the reality is dramatically different. Tim Cook and his cronies of sub standard "software" need to go. They will learn their lessons on the outrages pricing on iMac Pro and iPhone 10 back fires and other companies garner increase market share. Apple most loyal are now strongly looking at alternatives and Microsoft and Samsung smell blood in the water...Apple with 200B in Cash. Where is the quality of Software? Where is the Innovation? These guys are literally living in a glass Spaceship bubble campus in Cupertino. I have been using Apple products since 1982. My AppleTV has been replace by Roku, My iMac is being replaced by a HP Device (award winning) and my iPhone I am going Samsung. Having a homogeneous hardware portfolio from Apple is less relevant in the cloud world we live today. Apple will lose in the end by being so greedy and short sighted...

iPhone -> Samsung (done)
Macbook -> Asus (done)
Apple TV -> Chromecast (done)
iCloud -> pCloud (done, it sucks BTW. Dropbox is better)
iMac -> Surface Studio (for the next upgrade).
iPad Pro 2nd gen -> ? (Most likely they will kill it with iOS12 so I will have to go with a surface)
 
This revelation about the battery’s significance is encouraging actually. Before it, performance declines were blamed 100% on OS evolution. If replacing a battery allows me to milk my current phone’s usefulness for years to come, great. I’m tired of the two year upgrade cycle. Perhaps future phones will tout a user-replaceable battery as a feature.

What

User replaceable batteries were here since DAY 1.

Manufacturers are moving away from it because they dont make as much money when its user replaceable.
 
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I have an iPhone 5s that I feel the same exact way about. Can even get the battery replaced for fairly cheap if I wanted to.

You need to "get it" replaced

I can do it myself in 5 seconds. Infact I can bring two batteries with me if I wanted. Can buy them on Amazon for 20$.
 
Where do you get this info? From some mac forum??

I have my NOTE 4 samsung with a replaceable battery. Still runs perfect and its over 3 years old. (No throttling or lag *cough cough*)

Well, all the American models (locked and unlocked) come with Snapdragon processors. The Exynos is used in other important markets globally. Carrier locked models updates come from a carrier since they control the process when updates go out. Owning a Galaxy lets you see what type of bloat can be disabled but not uninstalled. I have experience with Verizon and AT&T not releasing updates until the newer Galaxies come out. Samsung had to release a statement months ago saying they were committed to getting faster updates to unlocked devices because it is a known concern that consumers are not happy with the latest Android version comes out months in advance before Samsung releases it for their devices.

Search the internet and you'll see a lot of Samsung Galaxy owners complain about their performance drops after year 1 of ownership. I have seen Samsung's song and dance for far too long. I have issues with them so frequently that I am not buying their smartphones. If I ever touch another new Android phone, I would buy a Pixel, Moto, OnePlus only because anything but pure-android is tainting my experience.
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I use a Samsung Note 4, which is a four year old phone running an operating system two generations old. It still does everything I want, takes perfectly acceptable pictures, and gets new batteries once a year.

Good, enjoy your Note 4. I had issues on my old Note 8 and I sold because I was done with Samsung. I didn't want to be at T-Mobile's mercy with software updates nor do I want to have my phone updated with Android O in March to May 2018.
 
This will have ZERO impact on Apple, just like the countless prior ridiculous lawsuits did.

The lawsuits will be costly, but nothing they can't handle. They have handed a very simple and devastating sales line to their competitors, though, and taken a sledgehammer to their premium reputation. That's going to hurt sales and profits over the long term, and many consumers who slip away to other platforms will never come back.

Car analogies are popular here, so I'll use an experience I had with BMW. I had a premium model (650i convertible) with the V8 engine but, frequently it would run rough so I took it in for repair. The dealership cleaned the fuel system, but this didn't help. Next time they replaced the battery (yeah, I have no idea either). The time after that they changed the fuel pump. Each time they told me they'd fixed it and each time they hadn't. I went back again and, finally, someone fessed up that the injector pack on every single V8 engine they'd made in the last 2 years or so had a design flaw. BMW's decision had been to avoid issuing a recall - because of the terrible PR hit this would be - and just change out existing packs if and when an owner complained enough. Sound familiar?

Anyway, BMW changed out the injector pack and, two days later, the engine shut off completely while I was driving, killing the electrics, the power steering and the power brakes. I was lucky as to where and when this happened as it could have been fatal at another speed or location. I told BMW that they can keep the damn thing if they release me from my lease - which they refused to do unless I rolled into another BMW. Given what I now knew about the way the company played games with customers cars and lives, I was never getting another one of their cars.

I hired a lawyer and sued them under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Without even having to go to court, BMW "bought" the car back from me, paid me compensation for my time and trouble, and paid my lawyer. I took the compensation check they wrote me and went straight out and bought used Mercedes, which I discovered was way better than the BMW.

The moral of this story being that Apple will find to their detriment that, once people switch to another platform, they may find out that the grass is actually greener, and won't come back.
 
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I did not consent to have my battery degrade over time, nor did I consent to allow Apple software to intelligently adjust to its degradation.

I did not consent to my fuel deplete as I drive my car, my battery draw power when I plug it in, my steak get grill marks when I put it on the BBQ, or or my food digest when I swallow it.

I did not consent to your post.

See how your mindset works?
 
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The lawsuits will be costly, but nothing they can't handle. They have handed a very simple and devastating sales line to their competitors, though, and taken a sledgehammer to their premium reputation. That's going to hurt sales and profits over the long term, and many consumers who slip away to other platforms will never come back.

This. Apple's reputation is everything. The brand is everything. The brand is why apple can charge a premium. Apple can recover and make everybody happy by losing a few bucks or keep a few bucks, damage rep, and lose lots of sales in the future. At this stage, this situation can be fixed. The longer apple stays silent or double down (throttling on all future products) on the problem, the worst this will get. As a shareholder, I would like apple to put this behind them before it gets out of hand.
 
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