But once throttled it really sucks to use. You have no idea.
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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But once throttled it really sucks to use. You have no idea.
My iPhone 6 that I use for business has slowed down so much that it is nearly unusable. Try do dial a number 15 seconds delay or crashes all together. Send an Email to a specific contact. App hangs or take 10-15 secs. I did a clean install with iOS 11. I still have barely installed my standard apps in hopes of a release the would increase performance thinking it was bugs in the OS. Not a Deliberate Act by Apple to down grading our devices performance. This is not only unethical it slaps all Apple lifetime users in the face for long standing loyalty. Apple needs to be penalized heavily for this deception and not just a class action that helps Lawyers. Apple should be required to update the code to perform properly on all devices. Also once and for all require them to stop making false claims on battery times. For ever they claim one thing and the reality is dramatically different. Tim Cook and his cronies of sub standard "software" need to go. They will learn their lessons on the outrages pricing on iMac Pro and iPhone 10 back fires and other companies garner increase market share. Apple most loyal are now strongly looking at alternatives and Microsoft and Samsung smell blood in the water...Apple with 200B in Cash. Where is the quality of Software? Where is the Innovation? These guys are literally living in a glass Spaceship bubble campus in Cupertino. I have been using Apple products since 1982. My AppleTV has been replace by Roku, My iMac is being replaced by a HP Device (award winning) and my iPhone I am going Samsung. Having a homogeneous hardware portfolio from Apple is less relevant in the cloud world we live today. Apple will lose in the end by being so greedy and short sighted...
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The 14 Core iMac Pro will NEVER throttle 
PS: Apple designs its products at the very limit. There is no headroom for the battery.
PS: Apple designs its products at the very limit. There is no headroom for the battery.
These bastards have done it with almost every release of iOS. I've seen it with iOS 6 and 7 (battery life halved). Now I stayed with iOS 9 on my iPhone 6 and battery lasts two days. My colleague with the same phone and iOS11 cannot make it through without one day without charging AND it is laggy.
Err, except technically, everyone has to drive below or up to the speed limit. So you are saying Apple is doing this to make sure everyone is driving above the speed limit?
No, no, no. All Apple has to do is to properly code their software to not cause the issue to begin with. Throttling all old phones because you can't code properly is indefensible.
There are no new CPU hungry features we ABSOLUTELY NEED to upgrade our old iPhones for, making these forced upgrades more of a "tithe" or "mandatory" purchase of a new iPhone.
Ever look up "conflict of interest"???
That sounds like bait and switch. Illegal. The new A12 is 50% faster than last year's. But will slow to A8 speed after 1 year. *Apple doesn't tell anybody about the last part*
Yeah, adding options is the solution to everything. And I think you would be able to count the people that actually prefer unexpected shutdowns over a moderately slower phone with one hand.
What would help is a message saying that because of poor battery health, the phone might perform more slowly under certain conditions (cold, charge level below x %). The real choice people would want to have is not between a slower phone and unexpected shutdowns but between a slower phone and the cost of a battery replacement (ie, some people might be perfectly fine with a sometimes moderately slower phone and would prefer it to spending money on a new battery and for some the opposite would be true).
This is exactly the case. There's easy solutions Apple can do to remedy the coverup issue but I think it'll only happen after is forced to pay out a chunck of change by the courts.
Also the leftist media, ie Washington Post and others are using their socalist agenda to misrepresent what this issue is. They only want to hate on Apple without reporting the true facts.
Everyone here wither accepts the facts or they deny them. It's binary. The facts are as said above. A relatively minor issue that could have been easily fixed but Apple chose to allegedly cover up. Covering it up (if true) is the real crime here. Apple need to be more honest here on issues like this. Lets hope APple learn their lesson this time.
I've noticed zero shutdowns with my iPhone SE. It's also just as fast as the day I got it. I don't own an iPhone 6 though.
The other issue I have is, people are expecting their phones to work just as fast with new versions of the OS? Are they mad? New versions of the OS, be it iOS or MacOS have higher hardware requirements, that's captain obvious. People refusing to accept this fact is part of the issue. However the battery issue seems to be also allegedly true. If Apple is at fault, they should have to pay out. Not cause Apple did anything majorly wrong . . . apart from the alleged coverup. The alleged coverup is the issue here and should have never been done.
Perhaps Apple should have the phone pop up with a warning about the battery rather the try to hide it by slowing down the phone.
Our chip is so advanced that no current battery technology can handle it!
But just to make our devices work, we will supply a crappy battery so it will work until the next iPhone is introduced.
But just to make our devices work, we will supply a crappy battery so it will work until the next iPhone is introduced.
Hahaha. Guilty. I believe cars are the only other expensive purchase with complex engineering that all consumers can relate to.
Yet you people continue to covet the sleek design and cache that is Apple. They will not change their habits until forced to by the market. What about thicker phones: what about user replaceable batteries: what about full transparency from Apple? It is not a problem with lithium batteries. It is about not being to replace them easily. I hope Apple soon feels the market pressure.
No, I never had a product that throttles itself over the battery. Ever. If the product dies like a powertool, laptop, headphones, and controllers then its on me to replace the battery. The manufacturer has no business regulating or changing the specs of the product. If i'm expecting a certain amount of torgue, speed, and volume then that's what I should be getting. If battery dies, you replace. Simple. I can just imagine beats headphones going into half volume mode because of low battery. Well, there's beat studio 3 for you for $380. Will fix all your problems.
You: why did I lose half my volume?
genius: your product is old.
You: can it be fixed?
genius: no. Only fix is new beats. <--- genius truly doesn’t know battery was cause of problem.
You: aw. Here's my credit card.
apple:
sucker
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Wow, I did not expect to see so many incredulous posts about this here. Apple may have been wrong to “hide” throttling when battery cannot supply peak power but it is the best solution to an inconvenient drawback to lithium battery tech.
If the phone doesn't last more than 1 year without having a defective battery that shuts down on you, then the device is of poor quality. What apple should do is replace any "defective" batteries that are causing any phone to randomly shut off. They should not be slowing down every single device for this specific, and probably somewhat rare issue.
This revelation about the battery’s significance is encouraging actually. Before it, performance declines were blamed 100% on OS evolution. If replacing a battery allows me to milk my current phone’s usefulness for years to come, great. I’m tired of the two year upgrade cycle. Perhaps future phones will tout a user-replaceable battery as a feature.
No, the best solution is to not keep the problem a secret. Then to provide a toggle in the settings, even if they default it to on.
For the consumers that don't care, it would be exactly the same as the current situation; they'd never know and they'd get the throttle effect. But for the ones that do, they'd be aware of the situation, aware of what Apple is doing, and feel like they're still in control of the phone.
Apple is absolutely wrong here, they pushed an update onto people's phones that crippled the performance without telling anyone and the only "solution" is to buy a newer phone. I usually hate class action lawsuits, the lawyers walk away with millions while the plaintiffs walk away with coupons. But in this case I support the lawsuit, Apple needs to bleed a little here so they get the message.
They do, I had to replace the battery in my wife's iPhone 6s, because it would get to 30 - 40% and just shut off. Replacing the battery fixed this issue. This was before iOS 11 came out.
There are tons of reports, in these forums of people having the same issue. A scientific test should also be made, but the question isn't that the phones are shutting off, its how Apple has decided to handle it. I would be ok with the whole throttling thing, if Apple had just been transparent about it.
No, I never had a product that throttles itself over the battery. Ever. If the product dies like a powertool, laptop, headphones, and controllers then its on me to replace the battery. The manufacturer has no business regulating or changing the specs of the product. If i'm expecting a certain amount of torgue, speed, and volume then that's what I should be getting. If battery dies, you replace. Simple. I can just imagine beats headphones going into half volume mode because of low battery. Well, there's beat studio 3 for you for $380. Will fix all your problems.
You: why did I lose half my volume?
genius: your product is old.
You: can it be fixed?
genius: no. Only fix is new beats. <--- genius truly didn't know battery was cause of problem.
You: aw. Here's my credit card.
apple:
I agree Apple could’ve unnecessarily explained in detail to the majority of casual iPhone customers who don’t care and possibly wouldn’t understand about the details of how and why the throttling process works. At the same time, given the choice, most people would prefer a slower, stable phone over a “fast” phone that randomly crashes.
That being said you can still replace the battery on the iPhone if you really wanted to.
Yes you can pay to have the battery replaced, but it will still be slower than when you first bought it.
Be careful with switching to Samsung. Their phones bog down a ton after one full year too. If you have an American carrier, you're probably stuck with a Snapdragon model, meaning that you could be at the mercy of a carrier. Even the factory unlocked Galaxies have bloatware that you cannot uninstall. Carrier updates are anti-consumer since they prolong updates till after a new model releases hoping you will upgrade.
If you're going to go Android, go Pixel. You'll get a lot of software support, good hardware, less carrier or OEM hassles, and still have the ability to work with a Roku and a HP Device.
If this bs happens to me with the iPhone X, this will be my last iPhone for awhile because I am not paying for another premium device with the life expectancy to be less than 2 years.
With the Pixel 2, you can get a 2 year warranty, 2 year minimum of software support, easy device replacement process, and pretty reliable phone support.