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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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You both are wrong,
Batteries are a wear and tear item. When you purchase a product from a manufacturer there is a contract that takes place.
The manufacture is obligated to deliver you what you purchased. With the exact specified specifications listed.
In a car the brakes, tires are wear and tear items.
Much like the CPU, the engine of the car has a specific output upon purchase.
How would you like it it Honda changed the HP of your engine without you knowing during a routine service?
This is what Apple is doing.
I'd say this is a good use of a car analogy.
Is it good for you? Mostly, yes. Should it be a choice? Absolutely.
What you are talking about it a buggy phone. Maybe had some hardware issues.
An android phone with good hardware will last you and be fast for its lifetime (And if you have replaceable batteries even longer)
An apple phone with good hardware will not last you and be throttled 1 year in.
Dont compare your bad hardware experience as a knock on the overall andriod eco-system.
Apple isnt flawless either.
There are plenty of good Android manufacturers that make good phones. They will always operate at peak performance regardless of OS update or not. Infact they will all be "faster" and have "better" battery life as your update the OS
The opposite is true with Apple and now we found out why.
If only people could ban together so passionately on world issues.
Depending on how you define "peak performance" this seems impossible for anything that relies on resources that eventually deplete.
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Being fast on paper and "fast" in actual user experience are 2 completely different situations. Until recently the UX of "old" ios devices generally been a lot smoother than old android devices with faster/better processors.
It doesn't throttle on new batteries. I had my iPhone 6 battery replaced, and CPU speed went back up. It's hard to say at what battery capacity % the throttling starts, my guess is around 90%, and there are different levels of throttling. My iPhone 6 is 3 years old, battery reported as 82% on Apple's diagnostics test, and it was at max throttling. (600Mhz instead of 1400Mhz when new)
New battery = iOS 11 went from almost unusable to decently fast on iPhone 6.
Apple collects information. The government collects information. How's Google any different? Hell Microsoft Windows 10 collects a crap load of information.
Where do I sign? This is Liberal Timmy at his best. Treats his consumers like the Democrats treats they're constituents - like they're clueless and nobody will figure the truth of their shady ways. But what do I know I'm just a "deplorable" person.
Sorry, it's just that it's a response I've heard enough times by now and to me it's an obvious option.
The use of OEM parts doesn't excuse Apple from liability, by your logic they aren't responsible for anything but the software as FOXCONN assemble the hardware.
IMO the battery issue should have been grounds for a recall or at least a discounted repair/replacement as it impacts the usage of the device, one way or another.
I wonder if Apple have created a landmine for themselves, either way I expect a few lawsuits around the world (including the UK as the Sale of Goods act (or current version) could cover this if it's considered a fault since manufacture for about half a decade).
Apples move is unusual, at least in terms of public knowledge from what I can see.
Just let me downgrade back to 10.2 or 10.3 and my 5s will be happy.
Even if they are actually trying to make your device's battery last LONGER, at the possible expense of a few percentage points of performance?
is running at 1/3 the speed as what you originally had a few percentage points?
Lighter current draw equals longer battery life.
Apple only charges $79 to do a battery replacement, INCLUDING the cost of the battery.
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Where is that proven?
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Yeah, and how many extra weeks/months between upgrades, because Apple has to TEST every-single-version of iOS each and every time they want to upgrade something?
Nope
Batteries do not LAST longer
I would say slowing down your CPU in attempt to get any batter usage gains is marginal if best,
Sure the CPU man consume less power now that its clocked lower. BUT it takes longer to complete the task so therefore OVERALL power draw is about the same.
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Wrong see my above post
Because they only implemented this battery longevity improvement in iOS 10.2, and those devices couldn't go there.
I've seen two 6s phones have batteries replaced within past 2 weeks. The CPU speed on one phone was 911Mhz and the other was 600 Mhz, after new battery installed they went to 1848 Mhz. Combined with the subsequent well improved geekbench scores along with the supporting data found online, I consider that plenty of proof.
But they won’t change your battery even if you offer to pay unless their diagnostic tool they use at their store reports that the battery is bad (80% capacity left). The throttling occurs before this. The diagnostic tool doesn’t know about the throttling.
We need a 3rd party doing a comprehensive report on this before further commenting. So much anecdotal and speculation.
And then I don't think what Apple did is necessarily a problem. Why exactly they did it, and what they are going to do about this going forward is more the defining moment.
If they took action at least as good as what they did regarding say the Foxconn suicide scandals (which was a non-issue and another case of consumer knee jerk reaction), then I think they should be good. But they are perceived as defensive, denial and secretive, then this case is going to have a material impact on the brand.
And then I don't think what Apple did is necessarily a problem. Why exactly they did it, and what they are going to do about this going forward is more the defining moment.
If they took action at least as good as what they did regarding say the Foxconn suicide scandals (which was a non-issue and another case of consumer knee jerk reaction), then I think they should be good. But they are perceived as defensive, denial and secretive, then this case is going to have a material impact on the brand.
They don't simply "down-clock" the CPU. It's more subtle than that.
They change the TIMING of certain high-current operations, so they don't cluster-together to draw large SPIKES of current.
No theoretically a CPU should be able to operate at its current state forever, its only the code that should theoretically get more efficient. So your phone should feel FASTER with future OS updates.
The only wear and tear left is the battery. If you can replace the battery then you technically should expect peak performance of your phone 3 years into ownership.
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They do down clock your CPU, its been proven. And the fact that its more laggy tells you tasks are taking longer to complete, therefore the CPU is operating for LONGER and consuming MORE power