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Expecting a battery that’s three years old to function like new is crazy to me.

Expecting the manufacturer to slow down the device by more than 50% on baseless battery excuses is outrageous and insulting to our intelligence.
They also admitted they started slowing down the iPhone 7 also where the battery is well above functioning battery levels and passes their health battery tests.
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It was in the release notes lol this was implemented less then a year ago and you guys act like you’ve been right “all these years.”

No, you're just running out of excuses:D
Nobody knew about this and that's why they're getting sued:D
 
Apples big brained engineers must be smart enough to design a phone that doesn't need to be throttled for the first 2 years!
 
Expecting a battery that’s three years old to function like new is crazy to me.

I agree that’s absurd. I never stated that. TELL ME ITS THE BATTERY. I can then go ahead and change it.

Also 5s’s and before seem to do fine.

That’s the simple fact that you seem not be able to comprehend. No one knew what was causing the sudden slowdowns when you SPECIFICALLY updated to a newer OS version.

How would you know it’s the battery? Maybe it’s the OS update? Maybe its bugs that constantly seem to be patched at a later time?

I’ve not experienced this in any other electronics. Have you?
 
Expecting the manufacturer to slow down the device by more than 50% on baseless battery excuses is outrageous and insulting to our intelligence.
They also admitted they started slowing down the iPhone 7 also where the battery is well above functioning battery levels and passes their health battery tests.
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No, you're just running out of excuses:D
Nobody knew about this and that's why they're getting sued:D

So you would rather have your device just shutdown... ok then.
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I agree that’s absurd. I never stated that. TELL ME ITS THE BATTERY. I can then go ahead and change it.

Also 5s’s and before seem to do fine.

That’s the simple fact that you seem not be able to comprehend. No one knew what was causing the sudden slowdowns when you SPECIFICALLY updated to a newer OS version.

How would you know it’s the battery? Maybe it’s the OS update? Maybe its bugs that constantly seem to be patched at a later time?

I’ve not experienced this in any other electronics. Have you?
It was released in 10.2.1.... has nothing to do with newer versions of IOS.
 
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So you would rather have your device just shutdown... ok then.

Yes.
I'd rather have it shut down.
I'll know the battery is dead and will get another one.
But off course if I bring it to Apple they will just lie to me and tell me the battery is fine.
And would rather slow down my phone to a crawl and tell me to just buy a new iPhone.
Great plan huh?:)
 
Yes.
I'd rather have it shut down.
I'll know the battery is dead and will get another one.
But off course if I bring it to Apple they will just lie to me and tell me the battery is fine.
And would rather slow down my phone to a crawl and tell me to just buy a new iPhone.
Great plan huh?:)
Could always just buy elsewhere
 
So you would rather have your device just shutdown... ok then.
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It was released in 10.2.1.... has nothing to do with newer versions of IOS.

10.2.1 is a newer version that 10.2.0. That’s a newer iOS release. Also do you know the extent of what they said in the release(see attached). Power management doesn’t mean you expect them to drop the speed down by 60%.

I would expect them to reduce brightness etc, but with a warning that it was doing this.

You think it’s okay. I know it’s not acceptable from an engineering perspective. Batteries lose the ability to sustain a certain current draw as they degrade. I am not arguing that point. Tell us that information. Is that so difficult for you to comprehend? A simple pop up with a “phone running at reduced speed due to battery wear. Please get your battery replaced as soon as possible” would not have lead to these run around discussions and lawsuits. Before you argue that it would have lead to lawsuits regardless, I disagree. Everything electronic has a battery and everyone uses a remote. They understand that concept.

Can you tell me why an iPad 1 runs so slowly with a new battery? It doesn’t have enough resources(RAM, processor is too slow etc). How would anyone figure out that this slow down in phones was being caused by the battery and not the other stuff?
 

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I already knew this was going on since several iterations ago though. All you had to do was replace your battery and you'd know right then something was off. An older battery should not cause a 50% reduction in CPU usage to mitigate performance. If I want to keep my speed and I'm ok with shorter battery life let me chose that. They have countless settings for various energy saving features and they could've done the same for older batteries. This is clearly meant to push users to buy newer products sooner.
 
Apple deserves every lawsuit given to them this Holiday season. They're not a noble company anymore. Rotten :apple: to the core.

"Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewansp...s-degrade-throttle-power-imacpro-pokemon/amp/

But to draw inspiration from Watergate, the problem is never the degradation, the problem is the cover-up. Apple implemented this feature in 2016, but I’ve not seen any coverage from Apple informing customers that it was degrading the performance of their own phone. For me the biggest issue is Apple deciding to obscure the issue and the solution.
 
True, but it’s not a simple task, nor one that Apple endorses. In fact, I believe you forfeit your warranty—if any remains—if you do it yourself. I’m proposing an easy access panel, or similar solution, to easily do it.
Batteries aren't user replaceable anymore because the phone can't be as thin with a replaceable battery
 
DaringFireball is recommending a full iTunes backup and restore. https://daringfireball.net/

I suspect the processor is running original full speed (geekbench could be broken), but iCloud or iMessage is eating 50% of your processor time. Turn off or clean out iCloud to fix. Maybe a full backup and restore does part of that.
Any links to clarify your assertions on Androids being slowed downed out of box?

Or did you just "suspect" that might be the case?
 
I bought a nearly new iPhone 7 Plus because my iPhone 6s that was only about a year and 5 months old was slow after iOS 11. That was wrong of them to do that and I hope I get a piece of the class action. They can cough up some of their greedy billions.
 



Apple yesterday confirmed that it has implemented power management features in older iPhones to improve performance and prevent unexpected shutdowns as the battery in the devices starts to degrade, and this admission has now led to a class action lawsuit, which was first noticed by TMZ.

Los Angeles residents Stefan Bogdanovich and Dakota Speas, represented by Wilshire Law Firm, this morning filed a lawsuit with the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California accusing Apple of slowing down their older iPhone models when new models come out.

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According to the lawsuit, Bogdanovich and Speas have owned the iPhone 7 and several older iPhone models and have noticed that their "older iPhone models slows (sic) down when new models come out." The two say they did not consent to have Apple slow down their devices, nor were they able to "choose whether they preferred to have their iPhones slower than normal."

They're seeking both California and Nationwide class action certification, which would cover all persons residing in the United States who have owned iPhone models older than the iPhone 8.

Apple yesterday addressed speculation that it throttles the performance of older iPhones with degraded batteries, confirming that there are power management features in place to attempt to prolong the life of the iPhone and its battery. Apple implemented these features last year in iOS 10.2.1.

When an iPhone's battery health starts to decline, the battery is not capable of supplying enough power to the iPhone in times of peak processor usage, which can lead to shutdowns, Apple says.The lawsuit seemingly misrepresents Apple's original statement and suggests the plaintiffs and their lawyers do not understand Apple's explanation for how iPhone power management features work and why they were implemented, given the lawsuit's suggestion that it's tied to the release of new devices. As explained by Apple, when certain iPhone models hit a peak of processor power, a degraded battery is sometimes unable to provide enough juice, leading to a shutdown. Apple says it "smooths out" these peaks by limiting the power draw from the battery or by spreading power requests over several cycles.

Lithium-ion batteries degrade over time by nature, and this eventual wearing out addressed by the power management features is unrelated to the release of new iPhone models.

Apple does not deny that iPhones with older batteries can sometimes see slower performance, but power management is a feature that Apple says has been implemented to improve overall performance by preventing an iPhone from shutting down completely rather than a feature that's been implemented to force users to upgrade by deliberately slowing devices.

As many people have suggested, Apple has done a poor job of explaining why it has implemented these power management features and how the state of the battery ultimately affects iPhone performance. More transparent information about battery health should be provided, and customers should be better informed when their batteries start to degrade so they can choose whether or not to pay for a replacement. Apple may also need to relax its policies on when customers can pay for a battery replacement, as currently, a battery can't be replaced unless in-store equipment registers it as near failing.

An iPhone's battery is designed to retain 80 percent of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles. A defective battery that does not meet those parameters can be replaced for free for customers who have AppleCare+ or who have devices still under warranty.

For out of warranty customers, Apple offers a battery replacement service, which costs $79 plus $6.95 for shipping.

The lawsuit is demanding the replacement of the old iPhone and compensation for loss of use, loss of value, the purchase of new batteries, ascertainable losses in the form of the deprivation of the value of the iPhone, and overpayments because Plaintiffs and Class Members "did not receive what they paid for" when Apple interfered with the usage of their iPhones.

Additional class action lawsuits have been filed against Apple in Chicago, New York, and Northern California. All three lawsuits allege that Apple slowed down iPhones in an effort to get customers to upgrade to new devices.

Article Link: Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]

They should give you the option in setting instead of making the decision behind peoples backs
 
In addition to slowing speed someone needs to investigate my belief that Apple also interfered with reception. I have a new Iphone and it gets better cell phone signal reception than my iphone 7. I know there could be other factors to explain the difference but if the goal was to get me to upgrade this is another thing Apple could have messed with too.

I am all in favor of the class action. This will be the last Iphone I ever purchase. Going Samsung Note next time I need to upgrade.
 
About time. What they are doing is highly unethical. Their involvement with my property stops after payment.
So you've never used the App Store, updated your iOS, or used any Apple services or apps on your iPhone since you purchased it?
Seems likely.
 
I'd like to also see further investigation into any potential connections between recent revelations about UFO programs and this new, sinister development in Apple's roadmap to total Earth domination.
 
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It appears Tim Cook is going with my plan, just as I suggested it to him! You have individuals bring suit, but in that suit misrepresent the issue to ensure failure. All the little people will not realize this suit was sponsored by Apple, and when it fails, so to does further effective opposition to Apple's position.

Or, rather, a bunch of idiots file a suit quickly, and fail to correctly address the issue, ruining things for the rest of us....
 
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