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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]

I don't think the batteries are to blame here. The issue is that for every new recent iOS major release, they add additional (unncessary?) features. For example upgrading to iOS11 introduce a slew of extra animations. On my 6S, those animations (e.g. when you swipe left to delete a recent call) were noticeably choppy compared to my X.

I'm rationalizing that part of the REAL reason that Apple slows down your battery is to preserve the battery for support of some of these useless features. We should all know that the more animations something has, the more battery juice it will consume. I suspect they optimized the best experience for the newer phones, and maybe provide an adequate experience for earlier phones.
 
Next year's new feature, a sealed battery that only lasts 200 full cycles until it only retains 80% of its capacity. Forget 500 cycles.

MacBook batteries degrades too but with 1000 cycles, how come Apple didn't throttle them down? All a BS excuse to artificially and deliberately make your iPhone feel slow for you to either get a battery replacement ($79) or buy another iPhone.

Tim Crook's Apple are crooks. No excuses. Keep supporting crooks if you like because you are stuck or prefer their prison-like ecosystem. I hope they lose these lawsuits even if it's a longshot. They don't deserve any more of our money.
 
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Simple solution, make throttling/battery management a setting choice. When the battery gets old and one still wants performance, replace the battery. I'm not a fan of Apple forcing the industry to non replaceable batteries but I guess the world wanted water resistant, uber thin phones more than practical supportability (something that better design could still have allowed).

I always use a case but a $500 fix for a cracked X back just shows that Apple really doesn't give a fig about practical supportability. Things must always look good rather than be good.
 
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chatin said:
About time. What they are doing is highly unethical. Their involvement with my property stops after payment.
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So you're using the same version of iOS that was on your phone when you paid for it? You're not using the App Store? Apple Music? iCloud Photo Library? iCloud Backups? iCloud keychain? iCloud syncing for calendars/contacts? Apple Pay? iMessage? Siri?
 
ipponrg said:
I don't think the batteries are to blame here. The issue is that for every new recent iOS major release, they add additional (unncessary?) features.
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I suspect they optimized the best experience for the newer phones, and maybe provide an adequate experience for earlier phones.
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Which they are forced to do so to keep up with Google adding features to the latest Android devices. An outcome produced by competition, consumer choice, and semiconductor technological progress.
 
Robert.Walter said:
When a virtue is turned into a “crime”.

Was nice that Apple tried to automate this feature to run in the background. But humans being what they are can’t be uniformly pleased.

All Apple needed (needs to) do is add a toggle into the battery section and a dialogue that allows the customer to opt in the first few times the phone crashes or near crashes.
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or simply tell the user the battery is degrading and needs replacement?
 
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KingslayerG5 said:
Next year's new feature, a sealed battery that only lasts 200 full cycles until it only retains 80% of its capacity. Forget 500 cycles.

MacBook batteries degrades too but with 1000 cycles, how come Apple didn't throttle them down? All a BS excuse to artificially and deliberately make your iPhone feel slow for you to either get a battery replacement ($79) or buy another iPhone.

Tim Crook's Apple are crooks. No excuses. Keep supporting crooks if you like because you are stuck or prefer their prison-like ecosystem. I hope they lose these lawsuits even if it's a longshot. They don't deserve any more of our money.
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If they don’t deserve your money then don’t give it to them. Simple.
 
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Precision Gem said:
So now that we know that Apple will slow down your phone once a new phone is available with a new version of IOS, I wonder how many people will be quick to update to the latest operating system? For years Apple would brag how such a high percent of their users are on the latest operating system while Android users are a version or two back. I bet this changes now. I know I won't be quick to update.
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The updates are basically forced so people don't have much of a chance to opt out.
 
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RedKite said:
Alternative take:

Apple should cease the unnecessary thinning of phones and fill any space resulting from miniaturising of components with a larger battery.

I'm all for this TBH... they should provide us with the option.
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.... huh?

This year’s phones got thicker. And have larger batteries.
 
eyeseeyou said:
I support this potential "solution" although it solves 0 battery technology issues or the inevitable need to have to replace a battery to maintain an optimal level of performance in any situation.

Better than exploding batteries or random phone crashes IMO.
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Imagine how pissed Steve would be about the user having to make a decision on battery life versus performance. Notify the user every time a major throttling is going to occur - give them battery information. send them to the store for repair
 
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firewood said:
Which they are forced to do so to keep up with Google adding features to the latest Android devices. An outcome produced by competition, consumer choice, and semiconductor technological progress.
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Nobody is forcing them to do anything; they chose to do it of their own accord. You really think they were forced into this bad publicity by Google?
 
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What people aren't getting here is Apple is not trolling old phones. They're throttling phones with failing batteries - which usually happen to be older phones. These owners had no ideas their batteries were failing because iOS was compensating for it. Stop the throttling and these people are either gonna run to Apple to either get a battery replacement or new phone.
 
Thinking about it, they see fit to inform us that the phone will run in reduced performance when using low battery mode, however they choose not to disclose it when they slow down the phone PERMANENTLY due to battery status.

That's courage. Man, the courts are gonna have fun with this one. Not to mention the EU regulators which just love consumer hostile stuff like this.
 
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Ask owners how much they like their Nexus 6P shutting down due to a voltage sag, for something as simple as taking a photo or video. If you had an emergency where you needed your phone, and it shut off, I am sure those in that situation would prefer a minor slowdown, over a complete crash.
 
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Imagine how pissed Steve would be about the user having to make a decision on battery life versus performance. Notify the user every time a major throttling is going to occur - give them battery information. send them to the store for repair
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You don't have it right: The throttling is happening when the batteries are "Healthy". They are above the 80% threshold that Apple recommends replacement.
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macTW said:
“Oh man. Apple prompts me once a day to update. And there is a “no” option. This is forced updating!”

smh
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If you have to restore, it will always install the latest iOS.

That's how I got to 10 on my iPhone 6 and it's nowhere near as good as 9.3 was.
 
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MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
They don't simply "down-clock" the CPU. It's more subtle than that.

They change the TIMING of certain high-current operations, so they don't cluster-together to draw large SPIKES of current.
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I'd sure like to know what, if any affect this has on the sensors - specifically bluetooth. Is this just phones or any ios11 running device? I have hundreds of iPads in the field and some of them constantly give us issues that others do not. I've never been able to find a specific cause....

As an aside, my 6+ was the worst iPhone I've owned. It always ran slow, the camera produced blurry photos (there was a recall), the microphone worked only half the time and yes it rebooted often. I used my iphone5 for development because the 6+ was such rubbish.

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A 6s that becomes a 3Gs after two years? Apple totally deserves to get sued for this and lose them all!

To new 8, 8 Plus, and X owners, this will have ramifications to all of you within two years or less. You spent over a grand for iPhone X only to experience a 3Gs because of its degrading battery?

And to Android users, this is not cool to read because OEMs including Google may want to copy this deceptive ulterior motive.

Remember in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 when Ego admitted putting a brain tumor in Peter's mother?

Apple = Ego

Cancer to the mobile industry. Not cool, Apple. Don't mind speed tests from PhoneBuff anymore. Don't mind benchmark scores. The iPhone's CPU speed now falls on the shoulders of the sealed battery.

Decepticons. Tim Crook needs to go.
 
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