I’m with you bro. I may be rocking a Note or Pixel XL next year if Apple doesn’t fix the this mess. My phone isn’t affected...and hopefully won’t be but it angers me that they’ve become another bloated, deceptive corporation. Quite frankly they are too big, and have too much precense. It may be good not to put all of my eggs in one basket-as in not be totally invested in the Apple ecosystem.
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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Nah, I don’t really care, I’ve got an X as well. Not whining, I just like to hear you Apple lemmings get all testy when someone calls out your precious company.
It would have been more ethical if your phone displayed a message:
"Due to battery degradation your iPhone will run at a slower speed to preserve normal function. To return to normal performance please visit an Apple store or authorized service centre for a battery replacement".
I don't get why they make these wholesale decisions to lower performance across across the board. It always backfires.
"Due to battery degradation your iPhone will run at a slower speed to preserve normal function. To return to normal performance please visit an Apple store or authorized service centre for a battery replacement".
I don't get why they make these wholesale decisions to lower performance across across the board. It always backfires.
It’s ridiculous to see so many people defend Apple on this and say those of us, thankfully in the majority, are whining... these Apple apologists are unbelievable.
Exactly, which proves these steps are to cover up a batch of faulty batteries! Cheaper to implement a fix that a mass recall! But you never know
I will replace the battery in my iPhone X when its needs it but I do not want Apple to slow my X down just because some live in the snow belt. I'm pissed Apple did not tell the truth and will never fully trust Apple again.
Has my iPad Pro been slowed down by Apple because its not as fast as it was new and I asked Apple this 10 months ago.
Apple is guilty by saying nothing and not confirming what they do with older iPhones.
Has my iPad Pro been slowed down by Apple because its not as fast as it was new and I asked Apple this 10 months ago.
Apple is guilty by saying nothing and not confirming what they do with older iPhones.
Google and Huawei did a downright horrible job dealing with handling that issue (and the bootloop issue as well). The way that disaster (along with the 5x having similar), is the reason why I don't have a pixel anymore (after owning every nexus phone made after the 4 and the first gen pixel xl), and won't touch a Huawei product.
I don't have an issue with the phones being throttled, all I want is Apple (or any other cellular manufacturer) to be upfront about things they're doing. If Apple had been transparent in regards to this, I don't think the backlash would be that bad.
The one thing I do disagree with Apple on is the battery replacement at 80%. If the throttling software is kicking in, that means there is something wrong with the phone's battery (otherwise, it wouldn't kick in). You're leaving your customers in a grey area over an arbitrary number, while their phone is being impacted.
So the solution would be not update the phone and stay with the factory ios version...
finally Timmy's greed and deceiving tactics against Apple loyal and longtime customers are being exposed
Well, if so, they failed, since the batteries in my old iPhone 5S and 6 still seem to be keeping the CPU running at full speed, and they replaced the battery in my iPhone 6S last year for free under warranty.
Exactly and this is a perfect example of how every manufacturer squeezes so much out of them purely with power management.
However, the optics are horrible. I wish that people would consider though that if Apple really wanted to force you into a new device all they would have to do is cut off iOS updates after two years and go with a lower quality battery that went to 50% capacity in 24 months. Then you'd honestly have no choice but to purchase a new phone.
Good. I'm glad this is happening. Apple shouldn't ruin the phones that we own. If the battery fails because it's old, that's fine. But that's no excuse to slow down my phone. I'd rather have a battery that doesn't last very long than a throttled experience. At least I would know that the battery was the issue and could get it replaced on my own.
I’m sorry, but this whole issue is ridiculous. Name one computer-based device anywhere that doesn’t degrade in performance over time. For that matter, name one product anywhere that performs like new after years of use. If anything, Apple is trying to extend the life of the phone with this method rather than allowing the phones to randomly shutdown due to battery deterioration. I suspect that if Apple simply allowed the phones to start shutting off when over-taxed, they would be accused of forced obsolescence by not managing the battery. No-win situation.
Well, they didn't do a complete job of a cover-up. They announced a bad batch last year, it covered the serial number on my old iPhone 6S, and so they replaced the battery in it for free. A year later, and that 6S still runs at full speed.
The thing here is that Apple LOVE to brag about the performance of their chips with pseudo techmarketing speak.
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Well, that is all lovely. But where is the clarity, the honesty? I see no clarifying small print saying "All this glorious performance might be adversely affected as the battery degrades".
It's like buying a new Ferrari, only to find that after a couple of years it occasionally runs with ~100bhp less as the clutch can't otherwise take it.
It has nothing to do with how long the battery lasts; that’s not what this is concerning. It has to do with the amount of charge it can supply to the processor after it begins to degrade. Without Apple’s algorithms, the phone would randomly shutdown because the processor doesn’t receive enough charge. Random shutdowns hardly seem like a better solution than clocking down the processor.
If I was an executive in charge at Apple and this question came up, I would have went the notification option as well. Being upfront and transparent will always win out versus being secretive and shady. Now they will have to back pedal and rethink the whole throttling deal which results in double work because they didn't do it right the first time.
I'm a huge Apple fan but Apple failed the consumer this time and they need to make it right. To start, lower the battery replacements to $50 or less.
Have you got comprehension difficulties. He is stating that Apple won't let him "pay and move on".
No, if the shutdowns happen when the battery is not dead then the batteries are defective and need replacement by the manufacturer.
What they did is shady and unacceptable.
It affects more CPU's besides the A11, don't know if there are better batteries which can sustain those peak currents.
I get what you and others say, I agree to some extent, Apple should for instance leave the choice open to customers which think they do a better job in managing their batteries by providing settings in the battery section.
Not necessarily, as I said before, Apple CPU's are so powerful today that batteries just can't seem to deliver the currents anymore after the battery is used heavily, there are lots of people which charge their iPhone's twice or even 3 times a day, within a year those batteries need replacement, that's not Apple's fault.
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I just buy a new iPhone X every time my current iPhone X dies. Stop being lazy people.
I also think it's a much better solution than having the device shut down suddenly, but I also agree with those saying that Apple should be more transparent about what's going on.
How truthful are those SoC comparison charts. Are those based on throttled older models?
Hard to trust anything they say now.
Hard to trust anything they say now.
What kind of crap do you buy? I have plenty of devices that still run the same a few years later.
Mike