Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]

[firewood]

You would have no idea cause Apple would just slow down your device instead.

I'm a developer. I write benchmark timing code to test my apps. I can figure out very accurately if a CPU was slower than before. My apps would run slower (lower frame rate, etc.) if the CPU was being throttled. They aren't.
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I have never heard of a device randomly shutting down because its battery was aged

Well I have, and have seen multiple old MacBooks, Windows laptops, Android and Palm devices that suddenly shutdown before the battery gauge goes below 5%.

 

[eyeseeyou]

No, if the shutdowns happen when the battery is not dead then the batteries are defective and need replacement by the manufacturer.
What they did is shady and unacceptable.

Anything that relies on a battery not being “dead” will shutdown if the battery is dead. This issue is for all battery dependent products not just Apple.

Apple made changes on their side to prevent it from shutting down.

Honestly think Morse reports for other phones will be reported soon.
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With 200B on the bank, you might spend some time explaining your customers (whatever analphabetic they are, they made you what you are...) why to cripple their device.

Would you consider cosintent crashes crippled more than running smoothly yet slowly crippled?

What state is more useable?
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And telling us the difference between hiding and not showing comes too close to transparency?

Apple hasn’t publicly advertised and or released every line of code for iOS, does that mean they’re hiding something?

 

[A MacBook lover]

Something Android has been doing for years, and people are blaming only Apple. Sad!


What do you guys want, throttling or shutdowns. Chose.

 

[Baymowe335]

Have you got comprehension difficulties. He is stating that Apple won't let him "pay and move on".

They will.
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They don't deserve $80. The battery is worth $25, tops.

I can get an "OEM" battery with a warranty for $30CDN - with opening tools. Apple wants $100 to replace my battery out of warranty. They can whistle for it.

You’ll just buy a new phone. They don’t care.

 

[Krizoitz]

About time. What they are doing is highly unethical. Their involvement with my property stops after payment.

So don’t update. Problem solved.

And there is nothing unethical about what they are doing, in fact it’s entirely ethical to ensure the product keeps running as well as possible.

 

[skinned66]

They will.
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You’ll just buy a new phone. They don’t care.

No, I'll replace the battery. You're right though, they don't care.

 

[Tiger8]

Something Android has been doing for years, and people are blaming only Apple. Sad!


What do you guys want, throttling or shutdowns. Chose.

How about good code that doesn't require either? for the phone to drain battery to the point of shutdown is sad, slowing it down to avoid it is sad.

And when did android slow down older phones? Links please?

 

[78Bandit]

Something Android has been doing for years, and people are blaming Apple. Sad!


What do you guys want, throttling or shutdowns. Chose.

I shouldn't have to choose. I expect a company of Apple's capability to design a phone that will operate consistently at its advertised performance under normal operating conditions for the full 500 charge cycle life of the battery. Even as the battery degrades over time I expect to see reduced runtime, not random shutdowns even when the battery meter indicates 50% charge remains.

Just for grins I fired up my old 3GS that was purchased new back in 2009. It is still working just fine and it has the original battery. It may not last all day, but it doesn't randomly crash either. That level of quality is what I expect out of Apple.

 

[Silver2k]

I whole heartedly support the lawsuits, I'd rather the phone run at full speed and have a lower battery life than have a slugglsh phone with slightly better battery.

If my battery gets bad enough I'll have it replaced or I'll buy more battery cases or just bring a battery pack.

I think it's disgusting that they've done this under their consumers noses... and now they've been caught red handed.

 

[Puddled]

They will.
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You’ll just buy a new phone. They don’t care.

There is no such thing as "just buying a new iphone".

It is an expensive item!

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

They will.
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You’ll just buy a new phone. They don’t care.

Are you saying that Apple will change their policy, or that people making this claim are being untruthful?

So don’t update. Problem solved.

And there is nothing unethical about what they are doing, in fact it’s entirely ethical to ensure the product keeps running as well as possible.

What IS ethical is for Apple to inform people that to get their phone working "as well as possible", is to get a new battery.
Edit: And for phones under two years old, for Apple to pay for it.

 

[Altis]

So don’t update. Problem solved.

And there is nothing unethical about what they are doing, in fact it’s entirely ethical to ensure the product keeps running as well as possible.

They aren't running "as well as possible". They throttle devices with batteries that show as "Healthy" (>80% health) and did so without mentioning a peep about it. That's dirty business.

"Don't update" is easier said than done -- even if you endure the daily update harassment messages, a restore will force you up to the latest version of iOS, permanently.

 

[linkboy]

Something Android has been doing for years, and people are blaming only Apple. Sad!


What do you guys want, throttling or shutdowns. Chose.

Show me where a Android manufacture started throttling people's phones without telling them.

All I want, is if any manufacture does this, be upfront about it.

 

[Altis]

You’ll just buy a new phone. They don’t care.

I'm sure lots of people upgraded their phone when it slowed to a crawl via deliberate and secret CPU throttling.

If only they knew it was done because of the battery! Then again, Apple techs would have said the battery is "healthy", so hmm...

Shady stuff!

 

[H2SO4]

Name one computer-based device anywhere that doesn’t degrade in performance over time. For that matter, name one product anywhere that performs like new after years of use.

A good kitchen knife.

 

[jase1125]

[doublepost=1514062226][/doublepost]So when you buy a new car, you expect no loss of compression and decrease in performance forever? I'd totally support easy battery swap option, but people's demands from Apple is a total BS. Average iPhone works so much longer than android phone. My 4S, 5S are still operational with minor issues. Go and try to find 6 years old Samsusng with original battery that works reasonably well. Slow phone is still a phone that you can use for emergency call. Dead phone on other end...

Have one right here. Galaxy S4 still works great.

 

[ikir]

I'm sure lots of people upgraded their phone when it slowed to a crawl via deliberate and secret CPU throttling.

If only they knew it was done because of the battery! Then again, Apple techs would have said the battery is "healthy", so hmm...

Shady stuff!

It does that only with old batteries, otherwise the device would shut down. It is a form of protection. Just buy a new battery, they should be changed after about 3 years of use

 

[kazmac]

when this is happening, go to iphone storage and erase the update

Never thought I'd be actively deleting Apple updates; am glad we have that option.

 

[Isengarder]

I have asked today to an Apple official repair store to have a change of battery (paying for it). They have run the software test from Apple on my iPhone 6, and have refused to change the battery following instructions from Apple, as the battery was at an 86% of its usage level, which was on the Apple’s software green zone (no need to replace)

Notwithstanding the above, my iPhone is throttled at 600 MHz or 839 MHz (far away from the nominal 1.4 GHz that it SHOULD have)

Why does Apple affirm that my battery doesn’t need to be changed BUT they throttle my CPU at half it’s speed “because the battery is not performing at its best performance”?

One thing or the other.

It seems to me that Apple is slowing down deliberately my device so as to force me to buy a new one, and this is not a fair conduct from them.

What is the game, TIM COOK?

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

A good kitchen knife.

Not without regular sharpening. I know this, I am an avid cook

 

[EvilEvil]

I don't think they cheapened out on the Switch battery, that battery takes up about half the system. Any bigger and it starts to compromise the portability.

It only last 3-4 hours though.

 

[ikir]

I have asked today to an Apple official repair store to have a change of battery (paying for it). They have run the software test from Apple on my iPhone 6, and have refused to change the battery following instructions from Apple, as the battery was at an 86% of its usage level, which was on the Apple’s software green zone (no need to replace)

Notwithstanding the above, my iPhone is throttled at 600 MHz or 839 MHz (far away from the nominal 1.4 GHz that it SHOULD have)

Why does Apple affirm that my battery doesn’t need to be changed BUT they throttle my CPU at half it’s speed “because the battery is not performing at its best performance”?

One thing or the other.

It seems to me that Apple is slowing down deliberately my device so as to force me to buy a new one, and this is not a fair conduct from them.

What is the game, TIM COOK?

Benchmarks apps offer report lower / wrong MHz, if you read it from an app. Maybe it is paranoia. I used many iPhone 6-6s that have many years of use and fly.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Notwithstanding the above, my iPhone is throttled at 600 MHz or 839 MHz (far away from the nominal 1.4 GHz that it SHOULD have)

Why does Apple affirm that my battery doesn’t need to be changed BUT they throttle my CPU at half it’s speed “because the battery is not performing at its best performance”?

Because they would be admitting that there is a problem and would open them to legal claims.

 

[ikir]

Oke... so Apple silently slows down my device due to degraded battery.... so I can use my phone longer than without and I don’t have to buy a new battery of device instantly... and then all the smart guys on Macrumors.... tell me that Apple has done this to force me buying a new device... how stupid people are or can be

It is incredible, and most of messages here blame code/programming, commercial strategies. It is a normal behavior on a system based on a battery, CPU and GPU have power drain peaks, which you have only when doing something heavy like gaming. If the battery can’t give enough power it shutdown. Apple just prevents that, ONLY when the battery is old. But users are just complaining.

 

[cale508]

The “iThrottle” is a “feature” that nobody asked for. The phone should give us a warning that the battery has degraded and that the phone might not perform properly instead of getting caught implementing a “feature” that if someone hadn’t put it to test, they wouldn’t have said it was “there”.