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Wow.

Apple fans, in numbers, are actually criticizing the company for once. I never thought I would see this here on MacRumors. :cool:
 
This lawsuit is dumb. I switched to Android right before the iPhone 5 was announced, and even I knew that turning off iMessage on my iPhone 4 resolved this issue. It's not really that complicated of an issue.

Did you not read the part where it states the issue still persists for some people even when they turn off iMessage before deactivation?
 
Anyone that thinks this is user error is delusional and/or retarded. I was an iPhone user for about 8 months and encountered this when I purchased a Nexus 5 and went back to Android. I tried absolutely every solution listed anywhere and none of them worked.

  • I had the setting enabled to fallback to SMS if iMessage was unavailable (it was enabled from the start)
  • Removed the device from my Apple account entirely
  • Turned off iMessage altogether
  • Waited a while

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Nothing worked. Period. This is not user error. This is either a bug or an intentional oversight. There are no instructions written by Apple themselves anywhere because there is absolutely no benefit for them to fix this. The only time anyone encounters this is when they are moving away from using the iPhone and Apple clearly doesn't care about those users.

Some people here need to stop being so delusional and condescending. You aren't Steve Jobs.
 
I got another phone, my brother and his wife can not send me texts.

Called apple and they told me nothing they already deactivated my device from my account. To this day I can not get messages. Called them a few weeks ago, I was told I might have to have my carrier switch my phone number.

If class action opens up, I am jumping on that.
 
Free service with free software that all only works on paid (and fairly expensive) devices. Always fun to overlook that part of it all.

How idea that change the stupidity of suing? The owner of the expensive device can still send the message as text - apple isn't blocking it. It's annoying, and stupid if deliberate, but none of these are reasons to sue.
 
How idea that change the stupidity of suing? The owner of the expensive device can still send the message as text - apple isn't blocking it. It's annoying, and stupid if deliberate, but none of these are reasons to sue.

Geez, your a fanboi. Apple is blocking it. Probably unintentionally, but they cause the message to be inside iMessage , but it's a text. I am an apple fan, but get real. If you moved from Android to Apple and you get no text messages , would you be ok with that???? No.
 
How idea that change the stupidity of suing? The owner of the expensive device can still send the message as text - apple isn't blocking it. It's annoying, and stupid if deliberate, but none of these are reasons to sue.
If Apple created an issue and they aren't doing anything about it for a long time and it's affecting more and more people who change devices as it comes to a very findamental cellular service like SMS/MMS then it might unfortunately take a lawsuit to get Apple to actually finally do something about it since they don't seem to be doing anything about it otherwise after all this time.
 
if apple created an issue and they aren't doing anything about it for a long time and it's affecting more and more people who change devices as it comes to a very findamental cellular service like sms/mms then it might unfortunately take a lawsuit to get apple to actually finally do something about it since they don't seem to be doing anything about it otherwise after all this time.


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What??

This is not a bug. This is a feature. :apple: This saved me a lot of money in a business trip for 2 weeks because my carrier did not give me any service. Good thing there were a lot of Wifi hotspots in Australia... :)
 
This is not a bug. This is a feature. :apple: This saved me a lot of money in a business trip for 2 weeks because my carrier did not give me any service. Good thing there were a lot of Wifi hotspots in Australia... :)
iMessage is a feature, having Apple use iMessage for you when you don't have it is a bug.
 
Geez, your a fanboi. Apple is blocking it. Probably unintentionally, but they cause the message to be inside iMessage , but it's a text. I am an apple fan, but get real. If you moved from Android to Apple and you get no text messages , would you be ok with that???? No.

I'm an old man and not an anything boy. Please point be to where I said I would be ok with it. I'm fact, if you read what I wrote, I said it is bad, petty, annoying and so on. My point, that you missed, is that none of that seems to me to be a "right" to sue, as it's just a limitation in their service. Intentional or not.

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If Apple created an issue and they aren't doing anything about it for a long time and it's affecting more and more people who change devices as it comes to a very findamental cellular service like SMS/MMS then it might unfortunately take a lawsuit to get Apple to actually finally do something about it since they don't seem to be doing anything about it otherwise after all this time.

Maybe it's a cultural difference, but the whole lawsuit thing seems over the top to me. I'd hope, if it was intentional, some bad press would do the trick.
 
Someone explain to me how this is a stupid lawsuit. This is one of the few lawsuits I actually support.

I have encountered this issue numerous times and it is beyond ridiculous. There are many people who are AFRAID of switching to another non-ios device due to this issue, and in effect, apple has locked these customers into their iOS.

Sign me up for this lawsuit

While this may be an issue, it is not lawsuit worthy. If you knew a thing or two about contract law, you would realize the absurdity of this case.

The issue I have here is that people feel so ****ing entitled to a functioning service that if it fails, they feel they deserve monetary compensation. That is not only wrong, it is legally bulli*****. No one is forcing iMessage down your throat. No one is forcing an iPhone down your throat. YOU bought it. Your get what you paid for. Deal with it.
 
While this may be an issue, it is not lawsuit worthy. If you knew a thing or two about contract law, you would realize the absurdity of this case.

The issue I have here is that people feel so ****ing entitled to a functioning service that if it fails, they feel they deserve monetary compensation. That is not only wrong, it is legally bulli*****. No one is forcing iMessage down your throat. No one is forcing an iPhone down your throat. YOU bought it. Your get what you paid for. Deal with it.
Yeah, you buy a car where something doesn't work due to something the manufacturer did or didn't do right, some others have the issue too, the manufacturer knows but hasn't done anything about in years, so, you know, you paid for it, you chose the car, so, you know, live with it. Not like it makes sense to try to get the manufacturer to actually address the issue they are responsible for, right?
 
I'm going to laugh for a million years when it turns out that the real cause for their text messages not being "received" is because the receiver was just simply ignoring them.
Thankfully you won't have to laugh for a million years. This is an Apple issue. Plain and simple. How so? The iPhone clearly tries to send the message as an iMessage as noted by the blue bubble on the sender's Apple device. Apple themselves don't even know how to fix it as they've admitted as much.

What I find funny about the hoopla these last few days is that this is not a new issue. It has been around since the very early days of iMessage. I, myself, suffered through it back when I switched from an iPhone 4S to a Nexus 4. I've seen other family members battle through it as well.

So while I think the lawsuit is ridiculous, this IS a serious bug that has been around for quite some time and needs fixed.

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No one is forcing iMessage down your throat.
Actually they are. iMessage is on out of the box and that is how the iPhone tries to send messages by default.

So, like I said to the other poster, I feel the lawsuit is a bit much, but this issue does need to be fixed. It's good that it is FINALLY getting the press it deserves after all these years.
 
Why can't they set up a server with a specific phone number you can text "on" or "off" to? And it will register or deregister iMessage/iCloud for the number you've texted from?
 
Why can't they set up a server with a specific phone number you can text "on" or "off" to? And it will register or deregister iMessage/iCloud for the number you've texted from?

This might not be possible without updating all iPhones in existence depending on how iMessage works.
 
If they could speed up the whole iMessage register/deregister process and devices' ability to read the iMessage status of the intended recipient device, why not every time the iOS device is on low signal, data allowance running low, or about to be switched off, it sends an iMessage server request to change the device's status to receive SMS alongside iMessages. The device intending to send a message to this device should read the recipient device's iMessage status before sending and colour the message green to show it used a text up. The receiving device will ignore duplicate messages, but it means normal SMS are being sent to the number in all scenarios when you might have switched the sim to a new phone, plus you're still getting iMessages routed via the phone number on your wifi only devices.

And sending iMessages from devices needs to be addressed as well so that the device checks before sending a message whether the recipient is still registered to receive messages by iMessage, currently there seems to be lag between deactivating iMessage and anything else knowing about it.

Why can't they set up a server with a specific phone number you can text "on" or "off" to? And it will register or deregister iMessage/iCloud for the number you've texted from? Then when wiping a phone, warn the user if they are not connected to the internet to deactivate iMessage straight away, they can do so by texting said number?
 
This lawsuit is dumb. I switched to Android right before the iPhone 5 was announced, and even I knew that turning off iMessage on my iPhone 4 resolved this issue. It's not really that complicated of an issue.

The problem is that it's always not working even if you did disable iMessages before switching to a new phone.
 
I thought this was solved with update? When you remove the sim card from the phone imessage and FaceTime are disable; at least for me that was the case.
 
I will always be amazed of how litigant is the USA society

apple cant be the only one allowed to sue?

it is a sad state of affairs but how long should this "bug" go unfixed before extreme measures like this are taken?
 
Now it all makes sense

Why the long standing problem of the iMessage not working after quitting Apple service is on all the sites now.
It had to be re-popularized for the lawsuit.
I hope the people lose.
PETTY PETTY PETTY.
 
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