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I'm sure Blackberry thought the same thing about 4 years ago.

The smartphone business is all about momentum. Blackberry had the same attitude years ago when they were on top (that they were #1 and didn't need to innovate anymore). Just because Apple is the #1 smartphone maker by a wide margin doesn't mean that their market share can drop rapidly. Because smartphones iterate so quickly, Apple had better be on their game or they can lose significant share in a year or two while others make big strides.

And you seriously think Apple, one of the most paranoid companies on earth, will let themselves end up like BlackBerry?

Not that its a market share game for Apple. Its never been.
 
And you seriously think Apple, one of the most paranoid companies on earth, will let themselves end up like BlackBerry?

Not that its a market share game for Apple. Its never been.

I sure hope not.

But in the meantime, instead of waiting for another iteration of the same iPhone 5 I currently have, I have placed an order for the developer edition of the HTC One. It will be in my grabby hands tomorrow :)

http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/?PS=1&cid=sem157p174347&gclid=CIjCmP-PlLcCFcF_QgodDBgAGw

iOS stopped innovating about two years after it was unveiled. Recently it has been content to basically copy Android features, like pull down notifications.

Steve Jobs was worried about Android. Methinks so should be the current Apple management, and even you.
 
I sure hope not.

But in the meantime, instead of waiting for another iteration of the same iPhone 5 I currently have, I have placed an order for the developer edition of the HTC One. It will be in my grabby hands tomorrow :)

http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/?PS=1&cid=sem157p174347&gclid=CIjCmP-PlLcCFcF_QgodDBgAGw

iOS stopped innovating about two years after it was unveiled. Recently it has been content to basically copy Android features, like pull down notifications.

Steve Jobs was worried about Android. Methinks so should be the current Apple management, and even you.

And what exactly did Steve do about it? All this supposed copying of Android (didn't notifications really come from iOS jailbreak community?) pretty much happened on his watch. And this skeuomorphic glossy design language Apple is rumored to be getting rid of also happened on Steve's watch.
 
Initially, I was on the same thought process as most now where I am fed up with how lackluster and boring iOS has become. I went as far as purchasing the Galaxy S4 to give it a whirl.

Man, was it the best thing that ever happened to me...and not because I love the Galaxy S4 but because it made me appreciate the iPhone and iOS to new found glory. Don't get me wrong the Galaxy S4 had some great features that I still miss to date: 4.99" screen, camera that actually takes good low-light pics, Swype.

In the end it was the functionality of the phone that had me begging for my iPhone again. Apple has done a tremendous job with making things so organized and ultimately bug-free that you really don't begin to appreciate it until you go buy an Android phone and witness it first-hand. Things like needing a separate application to check your visual voicemail, the horrible array of email clients to choose from we're just too ANNOYING to deal with. I was too tired of searching and reading reviews on standard stock replacement applications. I don't know how many reviews and music applications I downloaded to try-out and just couldn't find a decent one that I wanted to keep. Nothing on that thing was "easy" to use. The flagship features/applications i.e. smart scrolling, hand gesture to answer we're all very buggy. They didn't work all the time and found myself just turning them off completely.

Maybe, like others I am too vested in the Apple Ecosystem (Macbook, iMac, AppleTV, iCloud, etc.) to give Android a fair shot, but I am going to stick with it. I'm estactic that my iPhone does exactly what I want it too and does it well.
 
I feel ya OP. It's do or die right now for apple. People are starting to get tired & fed up w/ the same ole same ole...


IMHO... apple should just focus more on OS X.
 
1) Customization inc Custom launchers and Widgets ect
2) Integration with Google services and products.
3) Ability to set default apps, like making Chrome the default browser.
4) Much Better notification system
5) Better keyboard options like Swiftkey.
6) True multitasking - This is a biggy
7) Flash support, yes you can still install flash on Jellybean.

1) Most of which are buggy and garbage. Have you seen some peoples "customized" phones? Holy crap, they make me sick.

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Here you go. Whip that badboy out in front of some girls.

2) NO WAY RLY? U SRS? GOOG FONE = GOOG SVCS????

3) Chrome is garbage anyways. Safari is OK. Everyone knows Firefox > everything. Unless you're 13 of course.

4) Only if you have a bunch of spam happy apps that love sending you "advertisement" notifications. Then you can sort them and play with them all you want :D

5) Swype is overhyped (same with SwiftKey). I type much faster on my iPhone then I do with that garbage. Swype this: "Antidisestablishmentarianism".

6) Oh really? True multi-tasking you say? Open up your settings app and delve yourself nice and deep into a few menus. Hit your "home" button, open up another app. Do your little multi-tasking gesture or whatever, then tap on your settings. Are you back EXACTLY where you were? Didn't think so.

7) Flash? LOL. Even Android gave that up when they realized how stupid it was to back a dying technology. Even your pr0n sites use HTML5 bro. Get over it.
 
1) Most of which are buggy and garbage. Have you seen some peoples "customized" phones? Holy crap, they make me sick.

Image

Here you go. Whip that badboy out in front of some girls.

2) NO WAY RLY? U SRS? GOOG FONE = GOOG SVCS????

3) Chrome is garbage anyways. Safari is OK. Everyone knows Firefox > everything. Unless you're 13 of course.

4) Only if you have a bunch of spam happy apps that love sending you "advertisement" notifications. Then you can sort them and play with them all you want :D

5) Swype is overhyped (same with SwiftKey). I type much faster on my iPhone then I do with that garbage. Swype this: "Antidisestablishmentarianism".

6) Oh really? True multi-tasking you say? Open up your settings app and delve yourself nice and deep into a few menus. Hit your "home" button, open up another app. Do your little multi-tasking gesture or whatever, then tap on your settings. Are you back EXACTLY where you were? Didn't think so.

7) Flash? LOL. Even Android gave that up when they realized how stupid it was to back a dying technology. Even your pr0n sites use HTML5 bro. Get over it.

While I agree with a couple things you say, you really must have gone out of your way to find that stupid picture, there are thousands of themes, dozens and dozens of beautifully designed ones in Cydia alone. And here's the best part, nobody would be forcing you to install a theme, you could stick with the vanilla your phone came with, no need to attack people over their desire to change how their phone looks to suit their tastes..
 
While I agree with a couple things you say, you really must have gone out of your way to find that stupid picture, there are thousands of themes, dozens and dozens of beautifully designed ones in Cydia alone. And here's the best part, nobody would be forcing you to install a theme, you could stick with the vanilla your phone came with, no need to attack people over their desire to change how their phone looks to suit their tastes..

The guys whole post looks like it was written by a 10 year old, hence im not even going to bother posting a response. The part about multitasking is funny because it does actually take me back to where i was in settings and shows the guy does not have a clue what he is talking about, not to mention the part about setting default apps went right over his head.
 
While I agree with a couple things you say, you really must have gone out of your way to find that stupid picture, there are thousands of themes, dozens and dozens of beautifully designed ones in Cydia alone. And here's the best part, nobody would be forcing you to install a theme, you could stick with the vanilla your phone came with, no need to attack people over their desire to change how their phone looks to suit their tastes..

Actually funny enough, it was one of the first images I found.
 
1) Most of which are buggy and garbage. Have you seen some peoples "customized" phones? Holy crap, they make me sick.

Image

Here you go. Whip that badboy out in front of some girls.

2) NO WAY RLY? U SRS? GOOG FONE = GOOG SVCS????

3) Chrome is garbage anyways. Safari is OK. Everyone knows Firefox > everything. Unless you're 13 of course.

4) Only if you have a bunch of spam happy apps that love sending you "advertisement" notifications. Then you can sort them and play with them all you want :D

5) Swype is overhyped (same with SwiftKey). I type much faster on my iPhone then I do with that garbage. Swype this: "Antidisestablishmentarianism".

6) Oh really? True multi-tasking you say? Open up your settings app and delve yourself nice and deep into a few menus. Hit your "home" button, open up another app. Do your little multi-tasking gesture or whatever, then tap on your settings. Are you back EXACTLY where you were? Didn't think so.

7) Flash? LOL. Even Android gave that up when they realized how stupid it was to back a dying technology. Even your pr0n sites use HTML5 bro. Get over it.

So, you basically cut down Android by pushing your opinion as fact?

Swype is overrated... because it can't spell one word that a person may probably need to spell ONCE (at best) in an SMS within their lifetime?

I should've stopped reading at "Chrome is garbage. Safari is ok." I am now dumber for having read your post.
 
In the end it was the functionality of the phone that had me begging for my iPhone again. Apple has done a tremendous job with making things so organized and ultimately bug-free that you really don't begin to appreciate it until you go buy an Android phone and witness it first-hand. Things like needing a separate application to check your visual voicemail, the horrible array of email clients to choose from we're just too ANNOYING to deal with. I was too tired of searching and reading reviews on standard stock replacement applications. I don't know how many reviews and music applications I downloaded to try-out and just couldn't find a decent one that I wanted to keep. Nothing on that thing was "easy" to use. The flagship features/applications i.e. smart scrolling, hand gesture to answer we're all very buggy. They didn't work all the time and found myself just turning them off completely..

Lost me at "organized."

I'm looking at you camera roll. It makes no attempt to automatically organize photos. And to add insult to injury there is no way to even see dates.

Separate applications? That IS iOS! And the lack of file system makes it worse. I have the same PDF files saved it multiple locations because there no one single place to store them. Which leads back to organization, I need to remember which file is which.

That also leads to ease of use. How would I attach a PDF to an email in iOS? I need to do it from another app! What's wrong with "attachment" button? Want to attach more then one? Impossible. Everyone knows how to attach things to an email, why so confusing in iOS?

And let's me honest. iOS 6.1.3 means in itself there have been a lot of bug fixes. While one might argue less buggy then android I'd tend to agree but that is debatable as well. For example sometimes I'd have problems running flash, but the iOS alternative is no flash (for the most part).

While I prefer the iPhone over any Android phone everything you mention is thing I feel are need of fixing on iOS.
 
yeah man i love widgets, very useful. but looking at the history i dont think apple likes widgets, i dont think widgets would make their way to iOS7.
I personally hate widgets, but having made the mistake of suggesting I hope they aren't included in iOS 7 and getting lynched here, I suggest they give people the option for widgets and people like me can simply disable them :)
 
1) Most of which are buggy and garbage. Have you seen some peoples "customized" phones? Holy crap, they make me sick.

Image

Here you go. Whip that badboy out in front of some girls.

2) NO WAY RLY? U SRS? GOOG FONE = GOOG SVCS????

3) Chrome is garbage anyways. Safari is OK. Everyone knows Firefox > everything. Unless you're 13 of course.

4) Only if you have a bunch of spam happy apps that love sending you "advertisement" notifications. Then you can sort them and play with them all you want :D

5) Swype is overhyped (same with SwiftKey). I type much faster on my iPhone then I do with that garbage. Swype this: "Antidisestablishmentarianism".

6) Oh really? True multi-tasking you say? Open up your settings app and delve yourself nice and deep into a few menus. Hit your "home" button, open up another app. Do your little multi-tasking gesture or whatever, then tap on your settings. Are you back EXACTLY where you were? Didn't think so.

7) Flash? LOL. Even Android gave that up when they realized how stupid it was to back a dying technology. Even your pr0n sites use HTML5 bro. Get over it.

Someone got butt hurt.
 
As for customization, I could complain about wallpapers some iPhone users use that make the app names unreadable. Remember when Apple let people set their own backgrounds in iOS? I guess you probably complained about that too since customization is bad in your view. The fact is that I can make a much more clean interface on my phone than I could on my iPhone. I don't need labels on icons that are easy to recognize anyway, so I can get rid of them.

4) Only if you have a bunch of spam happy apps that love sending you "advertisement" notifications. Then you can sort them and play with them all you want :D

I avoid those the same way I avoided apps with advertising on my iPhone. Also, any app worth having lets you customize notifications.

5) Swype is overhyped (same with SwiftKey). I type much faster on my iPhone then I do with that garbage. Swype this: "Antidisestablishmentarianism".

I have the choice to use swype or just type. I can even resize the keyboard to make the buttons larger.

6) Oh really? True multi-tasking you say? Open up your settings app and delve yourself nice and deep into a few menus. Hit your "home" button, open up another app. Do your little multi-tasking gesture or whatever, then tap on your settings. Are you back EXACTLY where you were? Didn't think so.

This is the best one because it is just wrong. If you really want to point out problems with Android, just talk about how long it takes carriers to provide software updates. No need to make up stuff.
 
I honestly don't care if iOS7 is going to be "innovative" or not, as long as I have Cydia, I'll be happy, there is plenty of Cydia tweaks right now that blow any other phone away, I'm not gonna wait for Apple to add 5 features from Cydia every year, as long as the hardware is upgraded I'm happy.
 
I agree. Android is the next big thing. Apple is suddenly becoming too popular. Apple is becoming what Microsoft is. The UNCOOL.

Face it. Since Steve Jobs died, Apple stopped innovating.

agreed, after steve's death apple hasn't done something really extraordinary. android is a great OS and if apple doesn't brings up something extraordinary in iOS7 i dont have any strong reason to buy the next iphone.
 
I think a lot of people at Apple may be concerned of screwing up 'The Legacy', that they can't think creatively enough. They'll always be working under that shadow, and constantly thinking...is this good enough? Or will it ruin what we've built so far.

Unfortunately, since the person they're trying to please is dead, his expectations is now the sum of everyone's fears/dreams/speculations. I don't think it's impossible that this might undo them.


I think it's time somebody steps up and try to be better than Jobs. He was a great man and a visionary, but he's not the first, and won't/shouldn't be the last.
 
I think a lot of people at Apple may be concerned of screwing up 'The Legacy', that they can't think creatively enough. They'll always be working under that shadow, and constantly thinking...is this good enough? Or will it ruin what we've built so far.

Unfortunately, since the person they're trying to please is dead, his expectations is now the sum of everyone's fears/dreams/speculations. I don't think it's impossible that this might undo them.


I think it's time somebody steps up and try to be better than Jobs. He was a great man and a visionary, but he's not the first, and won't/shouldn't be the last.
Geez he hasn't even been dead 2 years....give them some time. Sheesh.
 
Things I want the most (but probably won't get) in iOS7.

1. Swipe for the keyboard.
2. Custom text colors and fonts.
3. Contact photos in the list without JB
4. Wifi, BT and brightness buttons for home screen
5. Move apps around freely and place where i want (to show wallpaper for example)
6. More widgets for notification center.
7. New menu layouts and colors. It's seriously time for that depressing grey to go.
8. Animated wallpapers
9. Save tones as ringtones without iTunes.
10. FLASH PLAYER.

Thank you.

So if you want those things and you know that iOS won't get them, then why don't you just use android? Some of us don't really use any of those. There is android for people who want those stuff.
 
agreed, widgets ARE the next big thing, apple should add them in iOS7. android is a great platform, samsung and htc are bringing awesome phones, if apple doesn't do something, i'm afraid i will have to switch.
 
agreed, widgets ARE the next big thing, apple should add them in iOS7. android is a great platform, samsung and htc are bringing awesome phones, if apple doesn't do something, i'm afraid i will have to switch.
As long as widgets are optional and I can turn them off, I have no problem. I hate them personally from my android days but allowing others the option is fine.
 
As long as widgets are optional and I can turn them off, I have no problem. I hate them personally from my android days but allowing others the option is fine.

agreed, everyone should get whatever s/he wants.
but, i haven't heard any rumors of apple adding widgets to iOS7.:(
 
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