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Apple Blocks Bloom.fm iAd Advertising Ahead of U.K. iTunes Radio Launch

If Apple really was about shutting out competition you wouldn't have Google maps, Pandora, Office, etc. available for download in the App Store. Seems to me some no name company is looking for attention. Kind of like when these parents go to the BBC complaining about how their kid racked up thousands of pounds in IAP charges. And then we get a photo of a sad looking kid with their parent. :rolleyes:
 
Laird Knox said:
When is the last time you saw an ABC ad on NBC? Or heard one radio station advertise on another? Not really anything new.
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Not really the same thing. The networks all promote shows that are produced by other companies - yes they are on their network, but other studios make money off of the show. Further - you DO see commercials for pay TV like HBO, Showtime, etc on network channels.

You also see ads for various ways to get competing TV and internet services on cable TV.

I still don't fault Apple for controlling their network.
 
ouimetnick said:
Wouldn't this be similar to how Microsoft was fined for monopoly with IE on Windows?
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Does this bloom.fm have an app that is being banned from the App Store? Or a website that iOS/Mac users are banned from listening to music on? Is iTunes Radio considered to be a monopoly in streaming music services?
 
Laird Knox said:
When is the last time you saw an ABC ad on NBC? Or heard one radio station advertise on another? Not really anything new.
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ACTUALLY they could. The CW showed an ad of The Originals during the commerical break of Pretty Little Liars which airs on ABC Family at the same time
 
Rogifan said:
If Apple really was about shutting out competition you wouldn't have Google maps, Pandora, Office, etc. available for download in the App Store. Seems to me some no name company is looking for attention. Kind of like when these parents go to the BBC complaining about how their kid racked up thousands of pounds in IAP charges. And then we get a photo of a sad looking kid with their parent. :rolleyes:
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Yes, we get it already. Apple is never wrong. :rolleyes:
 
Rogifan said:
If Apple really was about shutting out competition you wouldn't have Google maps, Pandora, Office, etc. available for download in the App Store. Seems to me some no name company is looking for attention. Kind of like when these parents go to the BBC complaining about how their kid racked up thousands of pounds in IAP charges. And then we get a photo of a sad looking kid with their parent. :rolleyes:
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On the flip side - I imagine people would have comments against Bloom.fm if they denied Apple ads on their network. IE "who do they think they are?"
 
Even with all these super-cheap streaming and "radio" services available today, I'd still never go for anything less than owning the song and having it there in my iTunes library.

Rather than cheaper streaming/radio services, I'd like to see the prices of albums drop...
 
Surprised?!?

"We were surprised at Apple's decision to ban us from their iAd network as their iTunes Radio service isn't even available in the UK." Ummm... the lack of iTunes Radio availability in the UK has nothing to do with the decision. Obviously, the advertising would be targeting Americans directly—not the UK. So allowing such advertising could potentially cannibalize Apple's own service. This should NOT come to anyone's surprise. Does Comcast broadcast Dish Network advertising on it's service? Does Direct TV broadcast Dish Network advertising on its service?

On the other hand, Apple should be confident enough in its service in that such competitive advertising would not effect their user base. I personally feel that the current state of advertising on iTunes Radio is annoying. It seems that after every 2-3 songs, the same commercials (although brief) are played over and over and over again. I don't mind being subjected to advertising in exchange for a free service but, for the live of God, change it up Apple!
 
Last night here in the UK :) came up but would not let me onto iTunes Radio - just said iTunes Radio unavailable - dosent show now though :(
 

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Bloom.fm is rubbish. So's iTunes radio. All I want it to be able to stream unlimited songs from a big, comprehensive library. So I use Spotify.
 
gettamac said:
This should NOT come to anyone's surprise. Does Comcast broadcast Dish Network advertising on it's service? Does Direct TV broadcast Dish Network advertising on its service?
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Yes. They do. I have TWC - and I see ads for Dish, Verizon FIOS and Cable, etc. all the time.
 
hansonjohn590 said:
Yes, we get it already. Apple is never wrong. :rolleyes:
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I didn't say whether they were right or wrong in this case. Just pointing out that Apple clearly isn't against competition. At this point we have one side of the story from an outfit most people have probably never heard of. What better way to get free advertising than claiming you're being screwed over by Apple?
 
Macist said:
Bloom.fm is rubbish. So's iTunes radio. All I want it to be able to stream unlimited songs from a big, comprehensive library. So I use Spotify.
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Bloom.fm does exactly that. Radios are free (like iTunes radio). £10/month on Bloom gives you exactly the same type of service as Spotify premium. The other Bloom tiers aren't limited in what songs you can listen to, it's just limited in how many you can cache at a time on your phone. £1/month lets you cache 20 at a time (swapping them in and out as many times as you want). It's about making on-demand streaming services more affordable for under 25s. If you want to choose what tracks you want to listen to on your mobile (not random radio), the only legal services you can use at the moment either cost £10/month or 0.79p a track.
 
xizdun said:
Is it even LEGAL for Apple to do such a thing?
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Of course it's LEGAL. CBS won't run ABC or NBC promotion ads either. Coca Cola won't advertise Pepsi on it's website.

I don't understand the POINT of this article at all except to get anti-Apple people who don't want to think riled up.
 
Rogifan said:
I didn't say whether they were right or wrong in this case. Just pointing out that Apple clearly isn't against competition. At this point we have one side of the story from an outfit most people have probably never heard of. What better way to get free advertising than claiming you're being screwed over by Apple?
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In the US maybe. But at over 1M listeners - I would argue that those in the UK know very well who they are. And that's in just over a year...

http://mobilemarketingmagazine.com/bloom-hits-1m-registered-uk-users/
 
Apple has had a long standing policy that they can reject apps that they offer in house.

"Apps that look similar to apps bundled on the iPhone, including the App Store, iTunes Store, and iBookstore, will be rejected."

Even when this functionality is added afterwards, Apple has the ability to remove them. The developers agreed to this when they became app developers. It is a known risk of developing a product, and so far, there has been no successful legal challenge to Apple's policy.
 
bbeagle said:
Of course it's LEGAL. CBS won't run ABC or NBC promotion ads either. Coca Cola won't advertise Pepsi on it's website.

I don't understand the POINT of this article at all except to get anti-Apple people who don't want to think riled up.
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Bad analogy for reasons explained earlier.
 
Rogifan said:
If Apple really was about shutting out competition you wouldn't have Google maps, Pandora, Office, etc. available for download in the App Store.
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Apple are still allowing the Bloom.fm app in the App Store (and taking their 30% cut from In-App Purchases) so it seems like an odd decision to block their adverts.
 
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