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"We were surprised at Apple's decision to ban us from their iAd network..."
"...so I can see why they'd want to protect their business."

How can he be surprised and then see why they'd want to protect their business? Pure attention grab, or he's an idiot. Anyone with half a mind for business would see this coming.
 
It is expected to debut in the U.K. sometime in early 2014.

If you take the year and divide it into three parts, early, mid and late.
You get early is January, February, March and April. So Early 2014 has 20 days left. So you could say the debut is expected in the next three weeks. Doesn't that sound much more relevant? Or maybe even you don't think it is coming in the next three weeks so your sentence is just smoke for an old rumour that is not coming true.
 
£1 a month? Talk about race to the bottom. I only own my music, so even free isn't enticing to me.

£1 a month basically allows you to "borrow" 20 tracks at a time, so you can't download their whole catalog. They also have a £5 (200 tracks) and £10 (unlimited) service.

Well done though. It's great to see though that the fanboy contingent on macrumors has even found a way to mock someone selling a decent service at a low price if it offends the almighty Apple.
 
£1 a month basically allows you to "borrow" 20 tracks at a time, so you can't download their whole catalog. They also have a £5 (200 tracks) and £10 (unlimited) service.

Well done though. It's great to see though that the fanboy contingent on macrumors has even found a way to mock someone selling a decent service at a low price if it offends the almighty Apple.
It's not that low a price. Apple only charges £1.82 per month for their competing service, and has a free version with advertising.

I don't see why Apple should be expected to have advertising partnerships with their competitors. The New York Times doesn't have any ads for the Wall Street Journal or any other news corp company.

This is only news worthy because it suggests iTunes Radio is going to launch in the UK soon. I've been using the service daily since it launched in Australia. It's awesome.
 
Pretty sure such behavior isn't allowed in the EU because Apple the Advertisement Platform company is creating an unfair competitive advantage for Apple the Music Sales company. Since these companies are all broken out into their own firms it applies even more.

But quite possibly no problem in the US.

All in all a dickish move that might make users of iAd think twice before using it in the future.
 
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dam u Apple :p

It's good for them,, why re they turning this down ??

ok,, so its competition because Bloom.fm is in the same biz, but so what ?

its only the advertising they want a cut in, not the whole service Apple provides.

I would have let them get the iAds...

Its more money for Apple, who doesn't want more money :) ?
 
How are they able to charge only $1.70 for the service?

Pretty sure Bloom.fm used to be MFlow, which was in the digital music downloads business. I got quite a few free tracks with all the freebie offers it had before it transmogrified into a streaming service with a naff name.
 
You ever see an advertisement for an ABC TV show while watching a CBS TV show? Me neither.

Yes it is legal.



Did you just try to compare web internet advertising v TV advertising ? Big fail there mate.

Look into network advertising, cause apple is changing the rules, and blocking a specific competitor.

The legality is around how the campaign is setup, weather its a paid campaign or 3rd party network advertising. If you paid to have a ABC TV show ad to be shown on CBS TV and Apple cut it short of the agreed duration in the contract cause they were bringing in their own show, is that legal?

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Is it even LEGAL for Apple to do such a thing?

Depends on how the campaign is setup and the terms/conditions of using iAD. If it's a third party network ad, apple can pull it. If it's a premium campaign bloom.fm paid for, there would be a contractual obligation to deliver x amount of impressions/click throughs.
 
"We were surprised at Apple's decision to ban us from their iAd network..."
"...so I can see why they'd want to protect their business."

How can he be surprised and then see why they'd want to protect their business? Pure attention grab, or he's an idiot. Anyone with half a mind for business would see this coming.

Does google ban apple product advertising from its double click network??? No. Mac rumours has double click advertising, would you surprised if Google suddenly block apple ads, and instead show android. His not an idiot nor grabbing for attention, just surprised that apple acts like a spoilt brat at times. His reply is spot on, and diplomatic.

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We'll done. You just compared bans on drugs advertising v anti competitive behaviour.

And in regards to super bowel. It's exclusivity deals, hence why they pay a fortune .

Two examples that have no relation to apple's move here.

Apple can ban whatever ads they want off their iADs network, unless they have contractually agreed to deliver a campaign. With these actions they are just sending a message out that if you advertise with iADs network, apple can pull your ads if they feel like it anytime. Even if your ads are completely legal and fine.
 
Apple's new mottos:

- When you can't innovate, duplicate
- When you can't innovate, litigate
- When you can't compete on your own merits, use your muscle to destroy competitors

Apple IS the new MS.

Can people do not use ''Apple cannot innovate anymore'' sentence? I mean, Apple done more things since SJ gone. Touch ID, iPad Air, Mac Pro, iOS 7... Also, that lawsuit between Apple and Samsung started in Jobs Era and you know why Apple did that. Also, look at the time lapse of Apple's innovations:

Macintosh: 1984
iPod: 2001
iPhone: 2007
iPad: 2010

It's just been 2 years since SJ gone and people saying ''Oh Apple cannot innovate anymore!'', ''Apple is the new MS'' etc. Apple's fastest innovation (iPad) introduced 3 years later then Apple's previous innovation (iPhone). And iPhone came 6 YEARS later then iPod. This year Apple is releasing New Apple TV, iWatch, iPhone 6 with a redesign, a redesigned MacBook Air, isn't it enough? But oh I forgot, bashing Apple is ''cool'' these days...
 
Is it even LEGAL for Apple to do such a thing?

No, it isn't legal in the US. All the idiots saying it is are fools. Simply because ABC doesn't advertise on CBS doesn't mean they can't. They don't do it because they don't want CBS advertising on ABC. Quid pro quo. It's a form of collusion.

Furthermore, the above example is a false allusion. We're talking here about a competing service in a market that iTunes Radio doesn't even exist yet.

The fact is it is illegal in the US is because it is a direct violation of anti-competition law.

Whether the UK has such laws, I don't know.
 
No, it isn't legal in the US. All the idiots saying it is are fools. Simply because ABC doesn't advertise on CBS doesn't mean they can't. They don't do it because they don't want CBS advertising on ABC. Quid pro quo. It's a form of collusion.

Furthermore, the above example is a false allusion. We're talking here about a competing service in a market that iTunes Radio doesn't even exist yet.

The fact is it is illegal in the US is because it is a direct violation of anti-competition law.

Whether the UK has such laws, I don't know.


We certainly do. Apple would fall fail of the Anti-competition laws we have should Bloom.fm decide to report them.
 
In an attempt to knock down competition, and a far more aggressive and succesful one than 90s Microsoft tricks.

Apple has many competitors, Samsung, HTC, Sony etc. BUT Samsung simply copied them, this is why Apple is suing Samsung not Sony, HTC etc.
 
Does Comcast broadcast Dish Network advertising on it's service? Does Direct TV broadcast Dish Network advertising on its service?

false analogy: the equivalent would be whether you got bloom.fm iAds on iTunes radio (the competing service) No reason apple should have to advertise a competing services product on their iTunes Radio service

However the issue is apple is the platform provider for iOS and the iAds service as well as being the provider for iTunes Radio..

as such I suspect folks will argue that apple may be engaging in anti-competitive practices by using its position in those other two separate areas (platform provider and controller of iAds) to prevent advertising for a product that competes with one of apples *other* services (iTunes Radio)
 
false analogy: the equivalent would be whether you got bloom.fm iAds on iTunes radio (the competing service) No reason apple should have to advertise a competing services product on their iTunes Radio service

However the issue is apple is the platform provider for iOS and the iAds service as well as being the provider for iTunes Radio..

as such I suspect folks will argue that apple may be engaging in anti-competitive practices by using its position in those other two separate areas (platform provider and controller of iAds) to prevent advertising for a product that competes with one of apples *other* services (iTunes Radio)

Do you know most companies do that?
 
Do you know most companies do that?

doesn't matter what most companies do.

Once you reach a certain position, the expectations that you don't do it tend to get higher. And once you reach a dominant position you can find yourself open to lawsuits regarding abuse of that position if you continue to do 'what most companies do'
 
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