Apple made sure it's work around does not break the original injunction.
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Apple Blood Oxygen Feature Workaround Sparks Fresh Masimo Lawsuit
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The patents Masimo are claiming that Apple infringed include one that describes a non-invasive device that produces and is responsive to light based signals responsive to analytes in blood communicating to a “monitor” which may include handheld computing devices like a mobile phone (among other examples) see US patent 10945648B2.
I’m just a simple caveman. I don’t understand technology and your world scares me, but I do know that Masimo has owns a patent and that the Apple Watch has functions that are covered by that patent.
I’m just a simple caveman. I don’t understand technology and your world scares me, but I do know that Masimo has owns a patent and that the Apple Watch has functions that are covered by that patent.
Same people who hating on the EU for asking Apple to not open up it's platform are now mad at Masimo for (checks notes) not opening up theirs?
If the patent is for on device, absolutely. The watch is now basically a sensor like you could buy from dozens of companies. But even those non-Masimo companies do the blood ox on device without a license.
The question is why Masimo is targeting Apple, and why other companies aren’t targeted.
Masimo’s patent is too broad as described here. Should be limited or struck.
Tachycardia doesn't cause hypoxia. It can be a response to something causing hypoxia. And tachycardia can be detected without a pulse ox. If they were put on blood thinners, most likely they detected afib. Which the watch can do without a pulse oximeter. Or they found a PE, which a lack of hypoxia doesn't rule out in anyway regardless.
Whether or not it's appropriate to put a demented patient prone to falls on blood thinners... that's a discussion I'll leave to the family and docs involved.
I don't watch movies, so I have no idea what you're talking about. lol.
Because that’s not what they did. They developed a way to transmit the raw data from the sensors to the phone and then do all the calculations to convert the raw data to Ox% on the phone. It is the moving of the calculations to the phone as well as the display of the result on the phone that is important.
My statement is 100% factual whether you like it or not . I’ve been an RT for 15 years, trust Apple isn’t saving lives, they are playing bully as usual
Why hasn’t Apple just developed their own algorithms in the past 2 years instead of being in litigation for so long and denying this feature to their customers. Fitbit, Garmin, etc have found their own way to do this without Massimo tech, so why can’t one of the worlds biggest companies do it too?
I am just going to buy next Apple Watch in Canada and not have to worry about this stuff.
In the complaint, it says Apple tried proposing this exact method of offloading processing to the iPhone before in January 2025 but was denied by CBP.
The rest of the complaint is redacted, but it appears the 24K gold trophy Tim Cook provided earlier this month made a difference. CBP immediately changed their minds and ruled differently when Apple presented the same idea again.
I read the entire ruling on this and it seemed to imply that the decision was made with Masimo's knowledge. I may have misunderstood, those sections possibly referred to earlier proceedings. If that is the case, the new decision was made in light of reconsidering arguments made in the original case for the import ban and their implications for what Apple is allowed to import (namely, iPhones and Apple Watches that are not capable of both taking and calculating an SpO2 reading independently of each other can be imported as separate units). Masimo is (understandably) irritated that the original decision's implications have been ruled on in a way they don't like, but nothing fishy is going on here.
There was never any proof of this.
Does Masimo have a product yet? Last I saw their watch was still vaporware.
You need to look at the claims of the patent to see what is protected. Hint: not everything described in the patent is protected. The claims are fairly narrow.
I have nothing new to add to this vs the other day when we already covered all this.
It is sort of “fun” watching people contort themselves into a pretzel to defend the Apple position in a different way in each thread and/or topic with updated news or when a new twist comes along.
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It is sort of “fun” watching people contort themselves into a pretzel to defend the Apple position in a different way in each thread and/or topic with updated news or when a new twist comes along.
👍😂
I didn’t say the Tachycardia necessarily caused the hypoxia. The hypoxia was a symptom of a very fast heart beat relating to Tachycardia. But from what I understand it does work both ways.
Respectfully I think I’d rather trust clinical decisions relating to medication choices to medical professionals. Considering it supported my family member to live a couple more years, I’d say we feel very good about that choice.
The point is that the trend in the low blood oxygen data over time lead to us seeking clinical diagnosis. We likely wouldn’t have had the diagnosis without it since we didn’t know to take those measurements. It was only due to that data that we ever sought further intervention.
What’s fascinating about this article is so many posters are ignorant to the concept that some people will and do benefit from this feature. It’s all about progressing their own argument rather than showing any interest in the idea that this technology may help somebody that isn’t them…
Apple likes to buy competing companies on the cheap unless they are forced to buy high which was the case when they bought Intel’s modem division for $1 Billion. Cook 🧑🍳 generally likes to stay away from multi-billion dollar acquisitions. Apple still has not bought ChatGPT or Perplexity AI. Cook 🧑🍳 thinks he can build his own LLM. Cook 🧑🍳 will ride this Workaround Masimo’s patent until 2028 when the patent expires.
It is patent at this point I belive all the rest have voided and this one will most likely end the same way once it works its way through the courts.
Go figure. You can buy one of those "O2 finger testers" in any drugstore for cheap. This is patent trolling IMHO.
You can also buy a no name Lightning cable at any drugstore for $1. But that doesn’t mean it’s not violating Apple patents which doesn’t expire until 2032.