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Apple 'Blown Away' by iPhone 5 Pre-Orders

doelcm82 said:
The word "innovative" has lost all its power over me. I mentally delete it from all hype. Using your post as an example, what I read is:

"Lumia 920 is more <marketing term> smartphone. iPhone 5 is disappointment in terms of <marketing term>."

It's such a vague word, and I don't know what most people mean when they use it.
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I have to admit that the Lumia looks like they took a year or two to design it, which I think is Apple's real advantage over most other phones.

It will be weird if MS makes a big comeback too. They have advantage of closed ecosystem...too bad they never made the courier.
 
I have to change the billing address on a friends account because im using his upgrade and the address needs to be the same as the shipping address. When I change the billing address on verizon.com, it keeps forgetting the apartment 10 min after I enter and save it! ughhh
 
lockerc18 said:
Oh, bull. If this is true, then Apple marketing is totally inept at sales forecasting.

This is an intentional marketing ploy, intended to build the buzz and get more media space about how great the iPhone5 is. It's all geared toward making people salivate over this phone and instilling a sense of urgency in them to go buy it. Marketing 101, people.

This nonsense from Apple about underestimating initial demand for products is REAL tiresome.
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Marketing is not responsible for Inventory projections.
 
blackhand1001 said:
Lets be honest, the thing could have been a downgrade from the 4s and it would have sold out. Its not the product, its the product line and the crazy almost brainwashing of the public that they need an iphone that it sold out. There are so many people with them that don't even need a smartphone let alone know what to do with one. Don't even try to deny it either.
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That is technology in general. People upgrade to the faster, more powerful computers with massive hard drives despite the fact that most users don't need the extreme amount of space or the extra power for what they actually do on their computer. The same can be said with TV's, movies, cameras, and pretty much all consumer technology. People want the new things with new features regardless if they need them or even end up using them.


Reach9 said:
Great news! so the time to beat is 60 minutes, let's see how fast the iPhone 6 goes out.
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You mean the 5s? :)
 
skellener said:
Because that never happens when there is a new iPhone released.
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Each subsequent iPhone release as come with added numbers of carriers. You can get the phone from at least 10 US Carriers, including regional carriers. Add the 10 major nations and additional 20+ nations in a two week rollout, never mind the volume demand in China and you get a blow out quarter.
 
Tones2 said:
The fact that it was sold out in an hour just means supply was less than demand. If they had 2 and got orders for 3, it would be sold out. It has nothing to do with record-breaking sales figures, yet at least. The initial supply just might have mean a lot less this year. This is no information until they quote actual pre-order unit sales. :rolleyes:

For all we know, Apple might have just held back supply to purposely say they were sold out in hour for publicity. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's possible. :)
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I could be wrong but I think the reason we saw so many leaks this time around was because they had a lot more supply.
 
KrakaJap said:
That and the fact that it's incredibly easy to upgrade free from an equal or almost equal resell of last year's model. So the real questions are: 1. How many are "new" sales/activations? and 2. How many sold their old phones? There are quite a few variables to consider here than just a flat sell out number. :cool:
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Those numbers only matter to the carriers. Apple is selling new iPhones making them more money.
 
Mpm277 said:
I ALMOST pre-ordered, but I just gotta see how the new Nokia 920 is first.
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It features a camera that requires nokia to undergo extensive effort in making fake advertisements just to make it look impressive. need I say more?
 
Nicky G said:
And I'm literally amazed (whatever that means, "literally" is not really appropriate to use in that context) that some people simply don't understand that it can be tough to predict the popularity of products that dwarf EVERY OTHER PRODUCT IN THE HISTORY OF THE PLANET EARTH.

Ten years ago, Apple was practically dead.

Today, they are THE MOST VALUABLE CORPORATION ON THE PLANET.

THEY ARE WORTH MORE MONEY THAN THE OIL COMPANIES.

THE IPHONE IS BY FAR AND AWAY THE BEST-SELLING CONSUMER ELECTRONICS DEVICE IN HISTORY.

APPLE MAKES MORE PROFIT THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER COMPANY ON THE PLANET.

APPLE MAKES MORE PROFIT OFF OF THE IPHONE THAN EVERY SINGLE OTHER CELLPHONE MANUFACTURER COMBINED.

This is all coming from a company that was nearly out of business a hair over a decade ago, and wasn't even in the cell phone game until 5 years ago.

Most of their executive management has been at Apple THAT ENTIRE TIME.

Yes, I do believe they can be genuinely "blown away" by their repeated, and GROWING, level of success.

I guess we'll have to disagree.
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The points you make here, and in your prior posts, are entirely correct. But they lead me to a different conclusion, which is that Apple is too good at this business to have underestimated demand by this much. I can see how they might have run out of supply in a day or two, but in one hour? As you say, they're too capable a company to do that, so the only conclusion I can come to is that they engineered this shortage intentionally somehow, for the PR value.
 
Menopause said:
When was the last time Sam(e)sung was blown away? Hmm??
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They were not. Nor do they need it. They are too busy blowing past Apple smartphone sales. It's the total volume that counts, not the first two weeks. Apple fans buy new iPhone for the first two months and then the sales stop until the next model is released.
 
rnizlek said:
Will be interesting to see if they release some actual numbers at some point. I wonder if this exceeded 4S preorders. I'd have to imagine it would, but who knows.
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I read in another article that iPhone 5 preorders sold out in one hour to get it on Day 1. Last year, it took the iPhone 4S 22 hours to do that. Would like to hear it from Apple instead, though.
 
einmusiker said:
I can't believe how fanbois eat this crap up. It's a publicity ploy people and apple is a master of it. They are creating hype
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I too am amazed, shocked, floored that a capitalistic company is using advertising and attempting to influence consumers to enhance their brand, product, service, profits.

Here in N Korea the sky is cloudy grey and I forget what year it is...
 
Menopause said:
When was the last time Sam(e)sung was blown away? Hmm??
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I might've bought an iPhone 5, but you, sir, don't realize that Samsung is the world's biggest seller now of smartphones, outdoing Apple. Hence why Apple is more Apple v. Samsung than Apple v. Google.

And Samsung makes quality products, and has won everywhere aside from the US, will surely appeal, and will doubtlessly win at some point. As they deserve to. I like competition, and Samsung is probably the big reason we got a bigger screen on our phones.

OafTobark said:
Apple is going to end up killing it with the iPhone 5. I believe their pre-oders are going to far exceed the 4S, with shipping times being pushed back just 4 hours after pre-orders began, it leads me to believe they will have some crazy numbers. And come launch day, this may be the biggest launch yet, times two.

I'm proud of Apple, I'm proud of the customers and what we will be able to accomplish together. I cant wait as I will be 'camping' out in front of my Apple Store come Thursday the 20th. Can't come soon enough.
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Wait, what can us customers accomplish together? I'm confused. Apple wins, and I have no problem with this in the free market. Apple stock deserves to climb, they deserve to feel good. But what exactly was your contribution or mine to our own success here? I don't get it.
 
mackinmike said:
They were behind in production and has finally caught up. But that doesn't make up the time that was delayed in getting the part to foxconn to assemble. My take on this was there were not as many units completed for the initial batch.
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Probably true, though it may have been that there were enough available via the other two sources that the production rate wasn't impacted. Probably won't ever know.
 
lockerc18 said:
The points you make here, and in your prior posts, are entirely correct. But they lead me to a different conclusion, which is that Apple is too good at this business to have underestimated demand by this much. I can see how they might have run out of supply in a day or two, but in one hour? As you say, they're too capable a company to do that, so the only conclusion I can come to is that they engineered this shortage intentionally somehow, for the PR value.
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"Manufactured shortages in order to drive demand" is a concept that makes no logical sense in almost any circumstance, and especially when a product already has an unfathomable level of demand associated with it.

Apple's growing level of success over the past 5 year period is simply unprecedented. There is not another story in the history of American business that can be compared to the rise, fall, and rebirth of Apple.

There has never been as good a selling consumer electronics product as the iPhone, period.

And it is certainly true that Apple's marketing might creates a level of demand for new product releases that is unlike that of any other product on the market.

Another factor is that the iPhone 5 really and truly in my opinion represents, on all levels, as close as we've seen yet to a "perfect" iteration of the product:

• The industrial design and combination of glass and the aluminum rear, coupled with the larger screen, yet thinner and lighter form-factor, are really, well, just perfect in my opinion. And many other people's. Not everyone's. But most people's. It seems like all external issues have been fixed.

• It finally has LTE, but with no sacrifice of battery life.

• The processor and GPU double its performance capability -- the thing seems to be capable of graphical tasks that almost match Xbox 360 and PS3 levels, it's insane.

I can't, honestly, think of anything I'd improve about the iPhone 5. I can't really say this about any other version of the iPhone, other than the original, as the firs tone was so paradigm-altering, we had nothing to compare it to, and it forged entirely new ground.

I simply don't think it would have been logistically possible for enough manufacturing lines to be put in ahead of demand in order to avoid this kind of situation, given that I think the iPhone 5 is noticeably superior an iteration of the product than we've yet seen. The damn thing is ICONIC. It takes everything that was cool about the 4 and 4S, and eliminates all of those things like the glass rear that served no purpose.

The reflective chamfered edge and the matte aluminum rear case are, for lack of a better word, beautiful. It is an insanely gorgeous device. For me, it inspired lust the moment I saw the marketing video Apple prepared. I think it might as well be called "the iPhone 2" because it represents the second plateau of iPhone development. Every element seems perfected at this point, based on what the current state of technology allows for. Apple has learned from every single previous version, and made every correct decision about the iPhone 5, from what I can tell so far.

Yeah. I don't think it EVER would have been possible to avoid this situation. There are only so many factories a corporation and its partners can realistically build.
 
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