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Apple 'Blown Away' by iPhone 5 Pre-Orders

I ordered the iphone through Apple's website at 12:04 am, and it is processing my order. The phone has been charged to my visa account which means the order went through and hopefully will be shipped in time to arrive on September 21. 😀
 
towg said:
F@ck it. I just sold my 4S and bought a Samsung S3. So far I'm impressed and content its going to be better than the 5.

I've bought Apple since I was 20 (i'm 39 now) and bought the first iPhone the day it came out but I think they've dropped the ball with this one.
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Don't take offense at this, but if the S3 works better for you then that's one less person in line. 🙂 The iPhone is not for everyone.
 
KPOM said:
Apple has nothing to "prove" anymore.
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That is false. Now, more than ever, the pressure is on. The more units they sell on a launch and the more records they break, the harder the pressure is the next year to top it. As the market reaches a maturation point, growth is going to be harder and harder to maintain.

Apple has everything to prove, today more than last year. And next year will be even worse.

Because the first time they miss breaking that record of pre-orders/launch day sales of units, you won't hear the end of it.

They have everything to gain from manipulating the media images and creating a buying frenzy and that is what they have been doing with the iPhone for the last few launches.
 
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gentleman00 said:
I ordered the iphone through Apple's website at 12:04 am, and it is processing my order. The phone has been charged to my visa account which means the order went through and hopefully will be shipped in time to arrive on September 21. 😀
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What is it the need to have the First iteration of a product? Seems to me waiting to buy until any issues are resolved is more logical. What would Mr. Spock do (WWSD)? 😕
 
cameronjpu said:
All of those things may be true, but Apple can still be surprised by the demand and truly incapable of building enough to supply it. That's where you differ with the majority here. You think they're making it all up. Every year, Apple sells a HUGE percentage MORE phones than they did last year, so they're not faking these sales and this explosive growth in demand.
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Exactly. Can they sell 20% more than last year? 30% more? 50% more? At those levels minor differences in estimates make a big difference and coming up with precise estimates is difficult.

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azurehi said:
What is it the need to have the First iteration of a product? Seems to me waiting to buy until any issues are resolved is more logical. What would Mr. Spock do (WWSD)? 😕
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Spock would communicate using one of those neat mind melds. 😀

Seriously, Spock wouldn't upgrade phones every year, and maybe not even every other year when the contract is up.
 
KnightWRX said:
That is false. Now, more than ever, the pressure is on. The more units they sell on a launch and the more records they break, the harder the pressure is the next year to top it. As the market reaches a maturation point, growth is going to be harder and harder to maintain.

Apple has everything to prove, today more than last year. And next year will be even worse.

Because the first time they miss breaking that record of pre-orders/launch day sales of units, you won't hear the end of it.

They have everything to gain from manipulating the media images and creating a buying frenzy and that is what they have been doing with the iPhone for the last few launches.
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Apparently we won't hear the end of it even though they DO keep breaking that record. You're making sure of that.
 
KnightWRX said:
That is false. Now, more than ever, the pressure is on. The more units they sell on a launch and the more records they break, the harder the pressure is the next year to top it. As the market reaches a maturation point, growth is going to be harder and harder to maintain.
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They have everything to gain from manipulating the media images and creating a buying frenzy and that is what they have been doing with the iPhone for the last few launches.
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They have expectations to meet but they don't need to manipulate sales patterns to sell phones. They need to deliver phones people want and have enough of them for people to buy. The new iPad rollout demonstrated that. We didn't see a frenzy on launch day by any stretch but we did see sales that topped expectations. As I pointed out before, we actually saw images of scalpers at the return window.

First weekend sales make for nice headlines, but what's really important is neither overestimating nor significantly underestimating demand for the quarter. If anything, Apple is going to need to start "normalizing" expectations as it is becoming clear that in general, the sales patterns are getting more cyclical and expansion opportunities are approaching the limit. When you think about it, Apple has "missed" Street expectations twice under Tim Cook but has never missed their own estimates. I think Cook is trying to send a message to analysts that they are being more realistic with published expectations and no longer sandbagging as they may have been in the Jobs era. I get the sense that Jobs didn't really care so much about the details of financial reporting. He could get away with that because of who he was (he escaped relatively unscathed from the stock option scandal that brought down other CEOs). Tim Cook is a more traditional manager and probably has a better appreciation of the Street.
 
Apropos of none of the preceding posts: If you hadn't been subject to the months of leaks that desensitized you and acclimated you to the new form factor, would there not have been a negative reception to the new phone?
 
cameronjpu said:
Apparently we won't hear the end of it even though they DO keep breaking that record. You're making sure of that.
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You're mistaking my intentions as negatives towards Apple. I've been nothing but positive about them since this whole thread started.
 
entatlrg said:
Surprise KnightWRX is suggesting yet another Apple conspiracy theory! LOL.

We'll know the numbers soon enough. Spin that 😀
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It has been a whole 5 minutes since he hasn't mentioned "blow away" or Philip Schiller's comment about being "blown away" or quoting himself about Philip Schiller's comment about being "blown away".
 
jarofclay73 said:
Don't take offense at this, but if the S3 works better for you then that's one less person in line. 🙂 The iPhone is not for everyone.
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Don't worry. I very much doubt you'll have to queue for one. I didnt for the 4S....or the 3G or the 2G...
 
Taz Mangus said:
It has been a whole 5 minutes since he hasn't mentioned "blow away" or Philip Schiller's comment about being "blown away" or quoting himself about Philip Schiller's comment about being "blown away".
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You gotta admit that was quite funny. A little marketing slip there, using the exact same sentence as last year.
 
NMSUballa said:
Whenever anyone says that the recession is still going on, I will point them in the direction of this article.
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Luxury products tend to do well in recessions. People don't go out to eat as much, or go see movies, and they certainly don't buy really big items, but they still want something nice to play with. Says a lot about consumer psychology, but nonetheless is true. The iPhone is in the sweet spot of being a luxury but not so expensive that it's unaffordable.
 
KnightWRX said:
You're mistaking my intentions as negatives towards Apple. I've been nothing but positive about them since this whole thread started.
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Actually that's not true. You've said just about nothing except for how they are being disingenuous about their expectations. Not sure what kind of game you're playing here, but if you really think you've been "nothing but positive" then you need to have your head checked. Actually I would think that qualifies you as a sociopath of some kind, if you think your words tonight have been positive towards Apple.

Time to let it go. You're not going to convince anyone of your position, and we all understand what you are saying. We just disagree with the (unknowable) motivations behind Apple's claims of surprise. See how easy that is? Just let it go. Go have a beer. I know I'm on my way out.
 
KnightWRX said:
That is false. Now, more than ever, the pressure is on. The more units they sell on a launch and the more records they break, the harder the pressure is the next year to top it. As the market reaches a maturation point, growth is going to be harder and harder to maintain.

Apple has everything to prove, today more than last year. And next year will be even worse.

Because the first time they miss breaking that record of pre-orders/launch day sales of units, you won't hear the end of it.

They have everything to gain from manipulating the media images and creating a buying frenzy and that is what they have been doing with the iPhone for the last few launches.
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This is true. Every year it's going to be harder and harder to top the numbers and when they don't everyone will be screaming that it's the end of Apple.
 
We will probably see first weekend sales numbers on Monday. They will eclipse the 4S sales numbers. They will have exceeded even Apple's forecast - which was a generous growth over 4S numbers. Very hard to predict these things accurately.

I'm betting the 10M units in the first week numbers are very close, and 50M in the quarter is very reachable assuming manufacturing can keep up.

Should mean something like 160M iPhones in 2012 total sales.

Pretty impressive numbers.
 
Big android guy for the last 3-4 years.

Tired of the lack of upgrades on android. Every time google updates it's software it takes 3 months for developers to make MOST of the hardware work. The phone manufactures do nothing to help us out (kernel source but no RIL). Seems like iDevices get upgrades at least for a few years and everything will work. Gets old spending countless hours trying to make the OS work. Want an updated OS buy a new phone.

It's also gonna be nice to be able to buy things like speaker docks. Android phones don't have them because no two USB ports are in the same place.

Then to get out of the hardware race. One device is faster better than the other.

AirPlay? What can you say it just works. Switch tv inputs hit the icon and my MacBook, iPad, or iPhone is displayed on the tv wirelessly.

Apps? Lots of them. Buy it for your MacBook use it on your iPad/iPhone.

What I don't understand is why haters don't just stay away. Google plus is full of them. Every CNET post is loaded. Makes Android users seem like a bunch of teenagers. Hoping to move to a device for adults.

This will be my first iPhone and I'm VERY excited about it. This is the iPhone I've been waiting for bigger screen, and LTE. A professionally engineered device. Solid as a rock. A beautiful piece of hardware.

I've become an Apple fanboy..

That's all I got.
 
saud0488 said:
Maybe, but look. There's no reason that supply should have been contrained. It was not some new technology that has never been explored before. Apple has had over two years to work on this phone and manufacture it months in advance. LTE isn't new, the screen isn't new, the processor isn't new. What could have possibly prevented them from making enough? Not enough workers? Have you seen the documentary on Foxconn?
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If there's nothing new in the new iPhone, why didn't some competitor start selling the new iPhone months ago? By your logic, they could have made a killing!

Obviously there's something new here (and objectively, there's plenty, you just refuse to admit it), or this would not be selling as fast as it is.
 
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