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Apple Brings Lion Internet Recovery to Current MacBook Pro Models

JTToft said:
- Correct. But the recovery partition included with Lion is different from the new Internet Recovery feature in one fundamental area. With the Internet Recovery feature, Lion is downloaded over the internet and can thus be installed on a blank hard drive; with Lion's built in recovery partition, a local copy of Lion is kept on a partition on the user's hard drive (and this local copy of Lion is, naturally, of no use on a blank hard drive, since it won't exist on a blank hard drive).
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Not quite correct, the recovery partition is only stub, to help solve issues, and if necessary, start download of actual lion, the stub is only 650MB, vs 4GB for full lion.
 
I wonder...

If I had not purchased lion and waited for this EFI update, would I have been able to get Lion for free... hmmmm... haven't seen the update for my 2011 17" yet though...
 
You won't get Lion for free because it will check your Apple ID and see Lion is not purchased and it will not download.
 
Treeman574 said:
For me this is a terrible solution. Also for people with slow internet connections or small download limits this would not be possible. Plus with a file that size, the download is likely to fail at some point.

I've created a full install usb, but apparently that is frowned upon by apple? I don't see why since I'm not pirating anything, just saving some time and downloads.
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Not sure how it's frowned upon when Apple gives you a tool to make a recovery disk?

Lion Recovery Disk Assistant

charlitis said:
If you use TrueCrypt or FileVault, you can see that with this EFI update Apple has also enabled AES-NI in the low-end 15' MBP with the 2635-QM processor!
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Where are you seeing that? The 2635QM not supporting AES-NI is an Intel decision, not an Apple EFI choice.
 
Saberon said:
You won't get Lion for free because it will check your Apple ID and see Lion is not purchased and it will not download.
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I think they actually check whether the machine has previously had lion installed, it can't check against Apple ID, as this isn't asked for.

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jayhawk11 said:
Not sure how it's frowned upon when Apple gives you a tool to make a recovery disk?

Lion Recovery Disk Assistant



Where are you seeing that? The 2635QM not supporting AES-NI is an Intel decision, not an Apple EFI choice.
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The tool just puts the 650MB recovery partition on USB, not the full 4GB installer DMG, which can be manually done.
 
hey yeah, how does everyone else who purchased lion, restore if there hard drive crashes, and they buy a new one, and have no time machine partitions and stuff?
 
I'll wait a while...

Wonder if doing this update would then prevent my mid-2011 MBP (which came with Snow Leopard) from ever booting with Snow Leopard again?

When Lion has a checkbox in a system pref to make it behave like Snow Leopard (no "auto-save", provide "save as..." instead of that dopey "duplicate", etc.), I'll think about it. I yanked it off my MBP about a month after installation as it just made me much less productive. Sorry, Apple: Lion sucks.
 
It might be a terrible solution for some people but it's a wonderful solution for a lot of people. I am very very likely to be not able to find that USB/DVD recovery disk at the time I need it or I might not be at home when I need a recovery. Plus, if u like to recover from a physical media, you still have an option, it's not like Apple will stop you from doing that.

Treeman574 said:
For me this is a terrible solution. Also for people with slow internet connections or small download limits this would not be possible. Plus with a file that size, the download is likely to fail at some point.

I've created a full install usb, but apparently that is frowned upon by apple? I don't see why since I'm not pirating anything, just saving some time and downloads.
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rumplestiltskin said:
Wonder if doing this update would then prevent my mid-2011 MBP (which came with Snow Leopard) from ever booting with Snow Leopard again?

When Lion has a checkbox in a system pref to make it behave like Snow Leopard (no "auto-save", provide "save as..." instead of that dopey "duplicate", etc.), I'll think about it. I yanked it off my MBP about a month after installation as it just made me much less productive. Sorry, Apple: Lion sucks.
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Lion rocks for these features and the others. Just get used to them and you will be an happy guy.
 
I wish they would address the SATA III issues. I was told at an Apple Store they were releasing an EFI update for this.
 
Sounds good.

SOUNDS good.

I'll wait to see how it plays out with others before moving toward a lack of physical OS disk.
 
rumplestiltskin said:
Wonder if doing this update would then prevent my mid-2011 MBP (which came with Snow Leopard) from ever booting with Snow Leopard again?
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I'm wondering the same, although checking the website shows it is only available for 10.7.

rumplestiltskin said:
When Lion has a checkbox in a system pref to make it behave like Snow Leopard (no "auto-save", provide "save as..." instead of that dopey "duplicate", etc.), I'll think about it. I yanked it off my MBP about a month after installation as it just made me much less productive. Sorry, Apple: Lion sucks.
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I don't think you'll ever see that, as the save as / duplicate thing is probably down to the individual apps. It possibly checks what OS is installed before working out which to display, but that feature, the autosaves and the reopen windows on restart not remaining unticked were what pushed me back to SL for the foreseeable future.
 
Nice idea for travelers but I will stick with a physical USB which was easy to make and faster if something goes wrong, that said I probably have reloaded Apple OS X once or twice in the last 10 years. Dam OS is just so stable and "just works". Keep them coming Apple I will keep on buying. :):apple::cool:
 
DJJAZZYJET said:
2011 imac apple ... or have you forgotten
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Separate teams, amigo. I'm sure that update won't be far away, as the iMac's have to be able to work with the Thunderbolt displays, too.


Now...am I the only one that is unable to make this show up through Software Update?
 
Saberon said:
You won't get Lion for free because it will check your Apple ID and see Lion is not purchased and it will not download.
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Very true, but kind of feel screwed that I would have to pay for a thumb drive $69 where when you purchased a any Mac it came with a disc. What replaced the disc is a Partition where you can reinstall your OS. Interesting they allow iLife '11 to install on other Macs with your new purchase of any Mac that comes with it.
 
"This update enables Lion Recovery from an Internet connection and includes fixes that resolve issues with Apple Thunderbolt Display compatibility and Thunderbolt Target Disk Mode performance on MacBook Pro (early 2011) models."
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So no support for my model? Thanks Apple. :rolleyes:
 
So does this mean that when someone steals my MacBook and drops another hard drive in it to get rid of LoJack that Apple is going to help them install OS X back on the new drive? :D
 
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